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« on: December 13, 2019, 09:08:57 PM »

Can thread title be changed to "2020 Labour Party Civil War"?
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« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2019, 09:58:07 AM »
« Edited: December 14, 2019, 10:05:57 AM by StateBoiler »

Saw this elsewhere, the only 2 Labour leaders in the past 60 years to win a general election were Harold Wilson and Tony Blair.

One is dead, and the other the current party hates.

Good luck.
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« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2020, 07:47:04 AM »

Not exactly. Pabloite Trotskyism descended from a split in the post WWII Fourth International. Michael Pablo was the pen name of a Greek-Egyptian who was exiled to France following his imprisonment by Metaxis, and miraculously survived the Nazi occupation. As the Secretary of the Fourth International, Pablo was faced by a movement that had been all but anhiliated over the last 20 years. And so he basically concluded that the best path forward for militants was not to form separate parties, but to practice "entryism" into the official workers movements of the times - namely Communist Parties and Unions. This led to a split in the International, the leaders of which would soon practice all of the things they accused Pablo of. Pablo soildered on, but was eventually cut out of the International in favor of a unification with some of the "Orthodox Trotskyists" that had split (chiefly the American SWP). The main sticking point? Pablo's support for national liberation movements, most prominently the FLN.

Left-wing politics is amusing in a coffee house philosophy discussion kind of way. I was somewhere else where they were describing the differences between all the tiny U.S. far-left parties and it sounded like it was out of a Saturday Night Live skit.
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