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IceSpear
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« on: October 16, 2014, 06:41:51 PM »

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IceSpear
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« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2014, 02:18:30 PM »


*Pukes that you call yourself a Republican and not a Democrat like the racist hicks who opposed Lincoln*

Anyway, care to explain why you feel that way??

Your party invited the racist hicks in when the Democrats grew tired of their bullsh**t

Aww, we have a simplistic historian on our hands!!

You don't say?

Your're in an interesting character, Rocky. Looking at posts I've seen of yours, it seems your reaction to the last 40 years of change in the republican party, rather than to, say, change parties to one that seems to more accord with what you seem to believe, as most of your type of Republican have done, has simply been to pretend they didn't happen at all

I don't "pretend" anything.  I very much object to the high school-level, fairy tale notion of civil rights that gives us the story of how Democrats one day found a soul and started being champions of minorities, and conversely the old Southern Democrats came in droves over to the GOP.  This ignores 1) that the South had been trending Republican decades before the CRA, 2) the South continued to send mainly Democrats to Congress for several decades after the CRA and 3) that GOP gains in the South were mainly concentrated in growing suburbs that were filled with recently relocated Northerners.  Did Republicans use racial code words from time to time to get votes?  Yes, of course, but not as often or as significantly as history tells.  And besides, Democrats had been doing that for decades with no one crying foul, giving lame excuses like "well there are really TWO Democratic Parties: Northern liberals and Southern "conservatives."  Nevermind that this is simplifying everything, it's also completely ignoring that most of these Southern racists embraced the same fiscal liberalism still called for by Democrats today.

Sorry for the rant, but I do not like the narrative that has developed over the Civil Rights Era that has painted this picture of a Democratic Party that one day became a great moral crusader and virtually *switched places* with the GOP of old, because that's just not what happened.

Does the past really matter? At this point, it's an empirical fact that formerly Southern white Democrats are now Republicans. If it wasn't for the large African American populations in states like AL/MS, Democrats would get like 10% of the vote.
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