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« on: November 01, 2013, 02:36:22 PM »

There are all sorts (normal).
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« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2013, 04:38:07 AM »

I can't speak for Scott, but while I do trust what purports to be an excerpt from a Wikipedia article dealing with an itself profoundly ideological and tendentious minority view among psychologists and sociologists (Mytton, when I Google her, appears primarily in connection to a risible Richard Dawkins 'documentary') more than I trust you, it isn't by much. You don't even bother to link to the article from which this purports to be. Also, not even under the definition by which you seem to be going was everybody who was raised in some religion or another 'abused'.
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« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2013, 07:34:43 PM »

Let's admit though... most of the Catholics who go Protestant are your insufferable born-again Bible thumpers. 

Now that you mention it, I'm curious: What are the statistics for this? I wouldn't be at all surprised if this were the case but I also wouldn't be surprised if it weren't.
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« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2013, 01:36:07 AM »

Amazingly, not everybody from a given place subscribes to the worldview predominant in that place. I'm sure there is at least one non-practicing cultural Catholic who identifies as such in Minneapolis, too. Probably more than one.

Also, reducing the phenomenon that Oakvale was describing up above to just sarcastically saying 'OMG CULTURE!' over and over again is not only shallow but profoundly demeaning to people who do value these things.
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« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2013, 02:16:58 AM »

Amazingly, not everybody from a given place subscribes to the worldview predominant in that place. I'm sure there is at least one non-practicing cultural Catholic who identifies as such in Minneapolis, too. Probably more than one.

That's true yes. My point though is that too many act like the non-Minneapolis standard is universal.

And they're wrong in that.

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I do, but I also think you're still sort of diminishing what these people actually think, although that may be because mainlining so much Japanese anthropological theory over the past few years has prejudiced me against the notion that personal freedom and fulfilling prescribed roles have to be mutually exclusive (although it's certainly obvious that they can be).

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Part of the reason is that type of thinking simply does not make ANY sense to me. AT ALL. I simply can't comprehend it. What the f[inks] does "having some vestige of cultural tradition and history" even mean? Like seriously![/quote]

That actually is something quite unusual about you. Most people actually have a fairly good intuitive understanding of what that means, regardless of their feelings about it. I'd try to explain it to you but I get the feeling that if it were the sort of thing that's possible to explain to someone who doesn't Get It intuitively--and again, please understand that you're really unusual in that, although probably not quite alone--somebody would have succeeded already, since you bring this up a lot. In all honesty, not understanding what 'having some vestige of cultural tradition and history' means, even as an abstract concept or something that appeals to Other People in Other Places, doesn't make ANY SENSE TO ME AT ALL, either, so I'm at a loss as to how to respond to this except to point out that mocking people for personality traits that you don't understand because you don't understand them is in poor taste.

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Okay but they're are also often what give root to a sense of constancy, mental and interpersonal stability, safety, and togetherness of what a lot of people feel is a more natural or organic variety than what 'the scene' is typically able to provide. Constancy, stability, safety, and togetherness appeal to a lot of people. A lot.

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Well at least you admit this, and that does sound like a more reasonable attitude, but your complete bafflement at the fact that other people disagree with it is still concerning.
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