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« on: November 10, 2011, 12:06:13 PM »


Not really, just I've become depressingly desperate.  Newt has some major flaws:

1) screwed up personal life
2) very arrogant
3) doesn't smile enough

if Newt stumbles, I'm contemplating kidnapping Romney and giving him a lobotomy.  And I also think Perry damaged Romney badly in the NV debate.
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« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2011, 05:21:13 PM »

Wow. You people would support Obama before you resorted to Romney.

look, the game plan is to interview every alternative (even if that means grabbing someone off the street) in full view of Romney...if we have to settle for Romney, we want to first grind his feelings in the dirt, slap him and his family around a bit, kick him in the gonads several times, and threaten the life of even his dog.  And if that former MA prostitute of a governor even thinks about screwing us around, we'll make him regret the day of this birth.
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« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2012, 12:33:35 PM »

I see jmfcst is on board. Sorry for the Cain Train pun. Anyway, back to the point: is it time to turn to Newt? Perry decided to abandon his campaign tonight and Cain seems a little preoccupied these days. While I'd love to see Santorum step into the role of the "Anti Romney," Newt seems far better positioned to do so.

I can't believe it's happening but I might just have to support the guy.

This makes a lot more sense to me now than it did 2 months before Iowa.  There's one week until South Carolina.  Romney winning it escalates his momentum to the nomination.  A slew of new polls show Newt moving into a much stronger position than Santorum to stop Romney from sweeping the first 5 contests.
 

I think the GOP electorate is about to boil over with anger.  Anger about potentially facing a Romney nomination.  Anger with the cowardly way the couple of dozen GOP big names stayed out of the contest.  Anger at the establishment for endorsing a candidate who is so vague, it threatens the very purpose of having a political party.
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« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2012, 12:38:55 PM »

They could, you know, just stop voting for him in these contests. That would help.

SC decides the GOP nomination, not IA or NH.
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« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2012, 12:44:07 PM »


IIRC, McCain lost in SC to Bush in 2000, and then McCain won SC in 2008.
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« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2012, 01:49:42 PM »

The problem is, the base has too many dogs in the fight. Newt, Perry and Santorum are splitting the conservative vote and letting Mitt win by default. What would have happened if Bachmann, Gingrich, or Perry hadn't even been in Iowa at all? There's no way Romney would have won.

It looks as if the same thing is about to happen all over again in SC.

Across this forum, you and Keystone Phil have traded barbs over which candidate should be the conservative standard bearer, when you and your peers should have already unified behind somebody. You hate the fact that some better conservative had months to get in the damn race but didn't, when you guys had months to get your sh*t together and just choose someone.

Don't blame the establishment, blame yourselves.
 

I'd run myself if I had the resume.  the GOP establishment are such cowards, and Paul Ryan is a puss.  he is, after all, whom the GOP wanted all along for a nominee.
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« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2012, 02:34:15 PM »

That's what you get when you can't choose one strong candidate in time.

we didnt have one strong candidate to choose from.
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« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2012, 03:31:16 PM »

They could, you know, just stop voting for him in these contests. That would help.

SC decides the GOP nomination, not IA or NH.

Does not follow. South Carolina isn't a magical predictor of who'll win the nomination, it just comes after a lot of the tertiary candidates are gone and provides momentum to the (likely) victor. Even then, I can't recall an instance where a candidate won NH and IA but lost the nomination in either party.
  No GOP candidate has ever won both IA and NH...but, no GOP nominee has ever lost SC primary.  SC is much more reflective of the national GOP party than IA or NH.

And I agree that if Mitt wins SC, it's over.
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« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2012, 03:42:26 PM »

No GOP candidate has ever won both IA and NH...but, no GOP nominee has ever lost SC primary.  SC is much more reflective of the national GOP party than IA or NH.

And I agree that if Mitt wins SC, it's over.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Party_presidential_primaries,_1976

sorry, not catching your point.
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« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2012, 03:53:26 PM »


not in the current format
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« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2012, 05:33:20 PM »

For example, Romney has already won New Hampshire and (arguably) Iowa. Thus, according to you, he is an impossibility and thus the results of South Carolina will result in something strange and unknowable.

never said it was an impossibility, just that SC primary is a fare better bellwether than either IA or NH, simply because SC is far more representative of the overall GOP.
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