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« on: October 09, 2016, 11:49:38 PM »

Horrible and extremely elitist ideology
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« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2016, 12:13:03 AM »

like me, lol
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« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2016, 12:15:35 AM »

Literally the worst.
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« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2016, 12:33:12 AM »

idk about you guys but i hate the poors but i also hate it when mom makes me go to church

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« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2016, 12:34:51 AM »

Elitist isn't the first thing that comes to mind when I think of their social stature
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« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2016, 01:37:12 AM »


fixed that for you
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« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2016, 02:07:23 AM »

"Screw the poor, but let them have weed" isn't really the basis for a good ideology imo
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« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2016, 05:42:57 AM »

Don't seem to understand that the best way to secure the former is to embrace 'socially conservative' stances on various issues.
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« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2016, 06:00:52 AM »

Cassius is right. I wish they would stop pussyfooting and accept themselves as rightists in denial.
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« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2016, 08:21:31 AM »

Despicable, nihlistic, and overall disgusting. Needs to be purged from American politics.
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« Reply #10 on: October 10, 2016, 08:24:50 AM »

Terrible people who are basically the exact opposite of me on most issues
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« Reply #11 on: October 10, 2016, 08:42:38 AM »

let the states decide
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« Reply #12 on: October 10, 2016, 08:56:09 AM »

I hope people aren't implying the inverse of this is any better.
some of  them are


My favorite part is the stupid assumption that if you are fiscally conservative you HATE poor people.  This is why you shouldn't live in echo chambers kids, you end up repeating dumb things that make you look silly when you announce them in mixed company.  It's the same bad tactic the same people use on anybody that has different ideas about immigration.
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« Reply #13 on: October 10, 2016, 09:07:16 AM »

I hope people aren't implying the inverse of this is any better.

Implying it isn't?
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« Reply #14 on: October 10, 2016, 10:18:36 AM »

Morally, not as bad as their opposites, but the effects will be just as bad.
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« Reply #15 on: October 10, 2016, 11:38:05 AM »

I hope people aren't implying the inverse of this is any better.

Implying it isn't?

Fiscal conservatism is a vague term that has doesn't necessarily mean someone is a Libertarian or believes in Corporatism. Most of them believe their policies will help the poor. Social conservatism is terrible in almost every respect.

Fiscal conservatism in the realm of practical American politics isn't vague. When folks claim to be "fiscally conservative", you know exactly what they mean. Small government, tax cuts, big business etc. They may believe their policies will help the poor, but that certainly isn't their priority for the most part.

And to say social conservatism is "terrible in almost every respect" is extremely narrow minded, and incredibly simplistic. I consider myself opposed to social liberalism by and large, but you will never hear me say that it is terrible in almost every respect.
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« Reply #16 on: October 10, 2016, 02:15:10 PM »
« Edited: October 10, 2016, 02:25:29 PM by RINO Tom »

Comically simplified on this forum, LOL.

FI, and to conflate it with elitism, not understanding ideology or being a spoiled brat who doesn't care about anyone is stupid as shlt, but I suppose the tears are tasty (so, guilty as charged??).

EDIT: Also, how in the  is social liberalism inherently more elitist than social conservatism?!?!
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« Reply #17 on: October 10, 2016, 02:53:07 PM »
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I hope people aren't implying the inverse of this is any better.

Implying it isn't?

Fiscal conservatism is a vague term that has doesn't necessarily mean someone is a Libertarian or believes in Corporatism. Most of them believe their policies will help the poor. Social conservatism is terrible in almost every respect.

Fiscal conservatism in the realm of practical American politics isn't vague. When folks claim to be "fiscally conservative", you know exactly what they mean. Small government, tax cuts, big business etc. They may believe their policies will help the poor, but that certainly isn't their priority for the most part.

And to say social conservatism is "terrible in almost every respect" is extremely narrow minded, and incredibly simplistic. I consider myself opposed to social liberalism by and large, but you will never hear me say that it is terrible in almost every respect.

What helps small buinsess will help the middle class
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« Reply #18 on: October 10, 2016, 02:57:50 PM »

I think aside from any other perjoratives you choose to throw at it, the fact that term is meaningless and undefinable sloganeering should tip you off to its uselessness.
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« Reply #19 on: October 10, 2016, 04:18:01 PM »

Depends on what one means by fiscal conservative. If they're way down the Ayn Rand and trickle-down drain, then HI. If they're right of center but broaching on more moderate territory, then FI. The best way to clarify would be to consider to what degree "fiscal moderate" either overlaps or excludes fiscal "liberals and conservatives."
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« Reply #20 on: October 10, 2016, 04:31:19 PM »

Cassius is right. I wish they would stop pussyfooting and accept themselves as rightists in denial.

OK, I admit it, "fiscally conservative, but socially liberal" means right-wing!

I think aside from any other perjoratives you choose to throw at it, the fact that term is meaningless and undefinable sloganeering should tip you off to its uselessness.

Wait, nevermind, it's meaningless!
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« Reply #21 on: October 10, 2016, 04:36:04 PM »

Cassius is right. I wish they would stop pussyfooting and accept themselves as rightists in denial.

OK, I admit it, "fiscally conservative, but socially liberal" means right-wing!

I think aside from any other perjoratives you choose to throw at it, the fact that term is meaningless and undefinable sloganeering should tip you off to its uselessness.

Wait, nevermind, it's meaningless!

I'm perfectly fine with being called right wing for having this ideology!  But social conservatives aren't, and for some reason they're the only ones who get employed on the RINO designating task force.
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« Reply #22 on: October 10, 2016, 04:43:31 PM »

Ultimately necessary for Marxism to succeed. That will be good for some people and bad for others.
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« Reply #23 on: October 10, 2016, 04:45:30 PM »

I hope people aren't implying the inverse of this is any better.

Implying it isn't?

Fiscal conservatism is a vague term that has doesn't necessarily mean someone is a Libertarian or believes in Corporatism. Most of them believe their policies will help the poor. Social conservatism is terrible in almost every respect.

Fiscal conservatism in the realm of practical American politics isn't vague. When folks claim to be "fiscally conservative", you know exactly what they mean. Small government, tax cuts, big business etc. They may believe their policies will help the poor, but that certainly isn't their priority for the most part.

And to say social conservatism is "terrible in almost every respect" is extremely narrow minded, and incredibly simplistic. I consider myself opposed to social liberalism by and large, but you will never hear me say that it is terrible in almost every respect.

What helps small buinsess will help the middle class

Oh how I wish.
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« Reply #24 on: October 10, 2016, 04:55:32 PM »

Sick and wrong, a failure of understanding what the common good is.
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