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Lakigigar
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« on: June 27, 2022, 04:14:21 PM »
« edited: June 27, 2022, 04:18:26 PM by Laki »

They had no chance anyways DeSantis is on the verge of losing to Crist and Trump might be indicted

The Rs won Prez races in 2000/04/16 because Roe was at the Federal level now with Alito and Thomas they have moved it to right and Alito was almost BLOCKED

DeSantis wins against Christ with at least 15 points.

Republicans might definitely underperform in some swing states due to incompetence in states like PA and MI. But in this environment with these approval ratings against such a well known and popular incumbent in a R trending state, DeSantis is gonna obliterate the competition and Dems will likely suffer huge losses in Florida downballot. It's states like these that need to give Republicans the win in the house.

Trump is more powerful than anyone else, because he can now claim he kept his promises (overturning roe vs wade). Something both Bushes, Reagan and any other Republican all failed to do, while Trump succeeded.
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Lakigigar
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E: -7.42, S: -4.78

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« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2022, 02:44:11 PM »
« Edited: June 28, 2022, 02:50:55 PM by Laki »

They had no chance anyways DeSantis is on the verge of losing to Crist and Trump might be indicted

The Rs won Prez races in 2000/04/16 because Roe was at the Federal level now with Alito and Thomas they have moved it to right and Alito was almost BLOCKED

DeSantis wins against Christ with at least 15 points.

Republicans might definitely underperform in some swing states due to incompetence in states like PA and MI. But in this environment with these approval ratings against such a well known and popular incumbent in a R trending state, DeSantis is gonna obliterate the competition and Dems will likely suffer huge losses in Florida downballot. It's states like these that need to give Republicans the win in the house.

Trump is more powerful than anyone else, because he can now claim he kept his promises (overturning roe vs wade). Something both Bushes, Reagan and any other Republican all failed to do, while Trump succeeded.

Really? LOL; but no, it won't be that high. Final margin will be R 6-9%. We are not and will not be a solid red state.

To be fair, even if DeSantis wins by 15 points, Florida still isn't a solid red state either, although i think it will vote Republican in 2024 again, with Trump or DeSantis as nominee against Biden. However i can see it going blue again in 2028 for example (even in the case DeSantis wins by 15 in 2022). It's not out of reach, it's just circumstances aren't helping and it was close in both 2016 and especially 2018, and Democrats will have to focus likely more on other states, because they're on the defence. With a popular governor on the ballot (although not bipartisan), relatively less backlash against Trump, an unpopular president and Floridian hispanics trending right-wing 2022 just isn't  the year. Biden also is doing bad among hispanics and independents, two groups that are important in Florida. And Florida has some former / retired WWC people from the Rust Belt states that were also a category Trump did well in (although Trump isn't on the ballot this year).

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We are not and will not be a solid red state.

So i definitely agree with this, even if i turn out to be right later this year. 15 points might be an exaggeration but i'm thinking double digits is a margin that will be hard to avoid for democrats.
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E: -7.42, S: -4.78

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« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2022, 11:36:50 PM »

They had no chance anyways DeSantis is on the verge of losing to Crist and Trump might be indicted

The Rs won Prez races in 2000/04/16 because Roe was at the Federal level now with Alito and Thomas they have moved it to right and Alito was almost BLOCKED

DeSantis wins against Christ with at least 15 points.

Called it.
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