McInnes assaulted at NYU. Pepperspayed. Professor advocated violence. 11 arrests

[JJC]

It's as simple as this: dehumanizing another human being, for whatever reason, should be a crime. Period. And since it's unfortunately not a crime in America, then they should be blocked from public venues, including social media. But if those private organizations refuse to silence their hate, then it's the right of people to shut them down through protest or even violence, if necessary.

Fascist.

[Sprouts Farmers Market ✘]

I just wonder how supportive these same people defending Spencer, Milo, and McInnes would be of American universities allowing Salafis* to speak. They wouldn't possibly say the colleges are aiding "the enemy," would they? The headline on Drudge wouldn't say anything like "Leftwing university invites Islamic extremist to give speech." They rightwing here on Atlas would surely come to their defense, right? You know, because so long as they aren't being violent they deserve that freedom to speak on college campuses as well, yes? And the colleges would be wrong for denying that to them, correct?

*Salafis aren't necessarily violent or extremists. Some can be Islamists, yes. But Salafi doesn't equal Islamist. They still hold some very repugnant views on many issues, however - especially regarding homosexuals.

You severely misunderstand Trump's support

[Chunk Yogurt for President!]

Richard Spencer is a Nazi, is anyone denying that?

But what does Gavin McInnes have to do with Richard Spencer?

[Crumpets]

I just wonder how supportive these same people defending Spencer, Milo, and McInnes would be of American universities allowing Salafis* to speak. They wouldn't possibly say the colleges are aiding "the enemy," would they? The headline on Drudge wouldn't say anything like "Leftwing university invites Islamic extremist to give speech." They rightwing here on Atlas would surely come to their defense, right? You know, because so long as they aren't being violent they deserve that freedom to speak on college campuses as well, yes? And the colleges would be wrong for denying that to them, correct?

*Salafis aren't necessarily violent or extremists. Some can be Islamists, yes. But Salafi doesn't equal Islamist. They still hold some very repugnant views on many issues, however - especially regarding homosexuals.

You severely misunderstand Trump's support

He didn't say anything about Trump in his post?

[Associate Justice PiT]

How is Gavin McInnes a Nazi?  I want someone to answer.

The more I read about him, the less I believe this.

     I've seen a handful of his videos. He rambles about some really weird stuff, but I've never seen him say anything that would make him a Nazi.

[JA]

It's as simple as this: dehumanizing another human being, for whatever reason, should be a crime. Period. And since it's unfortunately not a crime in America, then they should be blocked from public venues, including social media. But if those private organizations refuse to silence their hate, then it's the right of people to shut them down through protest or even violence, if necessary.

Fascist.

Definitely. I'm a very strong believer in a single-party state headed by a strongman with an authoritarian personality; advocate for the systematic dehumanization of other groups of people; and support the intricate cooperation between large corporations, the government, and society's "producers" at the expense of the disadvantaged. Oh wait, that sounds a lot like someone else I know...

[The_Doctor]

Here's the thing. I think that anyone should be allowed to speak their two cents. I will debate and talk to anyone, be they a white supremacist, a Nazi, a SJW moonbat, or a moderate, or anyone of any political stripe and as long as they're honest about their opinions I'll respect their right to say it. I might call them stupid, for x and y opinion, but they have a right to hold it and not to have any violence.

In Atlas terms, fringe people shouldn't be banned and in the real world, they shouldn't be punched. I'd rather debate them and prove that their ideas are on the ash heap of history.

I'd like the Alt-right to be far more vocal and open about their opinions and have them debate THAT here instead of this rhetoric signaling about how bad the left was at punching people, etc. If they have distinct racial and fringe beliefs, let us debate them openly and civilly and refute them.

Ditto the SJW left.

[JJC]

So, would Branch Trumpidians be OK with socialists, Marxists, and even radical SJW talking uninterrupted? I don't remember them being very OK with the idea.

As a conservative, yes.

And I would relish defeating them in the arena of ideas, because I am confident in what I believe and understand these issues thoroughly.

Even taking out the moral perspective of hurting peoples I don't like (and in my view are clearly fascist), strategically I understand that attacking them would hurt my cause.

[Sprouts Farmers Market ✘]

I just wonder how supportive these same people defending Spencer, Milo, and McInnes would be of American universities allowing Salafis* to speak. They wouldn't possibly say the colleges are aiding "the enemy," would they? The headline on Drudge wouldn't say anything like "Leftwing university invites Islamic extremist to give speech." They rightwing here on Atlas would surely come to their defense, right? You know, because so long as they aren't being violent they deserve that freedom to speak on college campuses as well, yes? And the colleges would be wrong for denying that to them, correct?

*Salafis aren't necessarily violent or extremists. Some can be Islamists, yes. But Salafi doesn't equal Islamist. They still hold some very repugnant views on many issues, however - especially regarding homosexuals.

You severely misunderstand Trump's support

He didn't say anything about Trump in his post?

This whole thread has to do with it. And the Milo one as well. No one is 'coming to Gavin's support' so much as hating on the actually violent side. If there were right-wing 'protests' against a different group, that would be equally despicable obviously.

[The_Doctor]

So, would Branch Trumpidians be OK with socialists, Marxists, and even radical SJW talking uninterrupted? I don't remember them being very OK with the idea.

As a conservative, yes.

And I would relish defeating them in the arena of ideas, because I am confident in what I believe and understand these issues thoroughly.

Even taking out the moral perspective of hurting peoples I don't like (and in my view are clearly fascist), strategically I understand that attacking them would hurt my cause.

Yeah I just said that at the same time as you. But I think you would be better served in condemning the people on your side who are as bad as the SJW people. You shouldn't just focus on your anger on the Left. 

This is what makes moderate/conservative (ex?)  Republicans like me feel uneasy about it. (You can call us RINO, you can call us whatever) but this kind of rhetorical strategy isn't something that helps me embrace the alt-right.

[Chunk Yogurt for President!]

This is Antifa.



What's the likelihood of it being a white person who made this?

[JA]

This is Antifa.



What's the likelihood of it being a white person who made this?

Assuming that's even real, those people who made it are just idiots.

[Mr. Reactionary]

It's as simple as this: dehumanizing another human being, for whatever reason, should be a crime. Period. And since it's unfortunately not a crime in America, then they should be blocked from public venues, including social media. But if those private organizations refuse to silence their hate, then it's the right of people to shut them down through protest or even violence, if necessary.

Fascist.

Definitely. I'm a very strong believer in a single-party state headed by a strongman with an authoritarian personality; advocate for the systematic dehumanization of other groups of people; and support the intricate cooperation between large corporations, the government, and society's "producers" at the expense of the disadvantaged. Oh wait, that sounds a lot like someone else I know...

Hillary clinton?

[publicunofficial]

This is Antifa.



What's the likelihood of it being a white person who made this?

You got trolled dude. This was made by some /pol/ douche

[Beet]

https://www.facebook.com/emeraldcityantifa/posts/1274139012606992

[publicunofficial]

It's getting really easy to tell which posters listen to guys like Sargon of Akkad and go outside wearing fedoras and their dad's suits.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Who?

[JJC]

So, would Branch Trumpidians be OK with socialists, Marxists, and even radical SJW talking uninterrupted? I don't remember them being very OK with the idea.

As a conservative, yes.

And I would relish defeating them in the arena of ideas, because I am confident in what I believe and understand these issues thoroughly.

Even taking out the moral perspective of hurting peoples I don't like (and in my view are clearly fascist), strategically I understand that attacking them would hurt my cause.

Yeah I just said that at the same time as you. But I think you would be better served in condemning the people on your side who are as bad as the SJW people. You shouldn't just focus on your anger on the Left.  

This is what makes moderate/conservative (ex?)  Republicans like me feel uneasy about it. (You can call us RINO, you can call us whatever) but this kind of rhetorical strategy isn't something that helps me embrace the alt-right.

I'm not 'alt-right', and I don't believe that there is some huge alt-right movement. To me, the 'alt-right' is nothing but a collection of over-the-top internet memes.

As for condemning people - like I said, I don't even know who this guy is nor do I care. It's the silencing of decent - which is such a huge problem on campuses - that I am criticizing.

And yes, if right wing people do this then I condemn it. But let's be honest here, there's only one side who is routinely rioting like this right now. Part of the left's problem is that they politicize everything, no matter how mundane. I personally believe that this ultra politicization is due to a lack of religious beliefs among the left.

Some might not like it, but humans are naturally spiritual. We're aware of our mortality and want to think that our lives mean something. For most people, that desire is met through religion. But for those who don't believe in God, far too often that gets substituted for government and politics.

Hence this kind of routine cultist response. To them, these speakers are not just expressing opinions they think are wrong. They are committing heresy. And in the righteous utopia there is no room for sinners.

[Ashley Biden's Diary]

McInnes is utter garbage, but he's obviously not a Nazi, as he married a non white woman and has mixed kids.

[Santander]

Richard Spencer is a Nazi, is anyone denying that?

But what does Gavin McInnes have to do with Richard Spencer?

Spencer is not a Nazi or a white supremacist. He is a white nationalist troll with some very bad views.

[Sprouts Farmers Market ✘]

McInnes is utter garbage, but he's obviously not a Nazi, as he married a non white woman and has mixed kids.

Racist men often marry out of race to assert their superiority. This is not evidence.

[Chunk Yogurt for President!]

Richard Spencer is a Nazi, is anyone denying that?

But what does Gavin McInnes have to do with Richard Spencer?

Spencer is not a Nazi or a white supremacist. He is a white nationalist troll with some very bad views.

Doesn't he believe that Jews are trying to genocide white people or something?

[Dr. Arch]

Those snowflakes must be radioactive, huh... keep up the condescending memes that really just fan the flames. That also goes for the ones on the left with the "muh hicks."

[Ashley Biden's Diary]

McInnes is utter garbage, but he's obviously not a Nazi, as he married a non white woman and has mixed kids.

Racist men often marry out of race to assert their superiority. This is not evidence.

It is evidence that he is not a Nazi. To a Nazi him mixing his blood with a non white is treason to his race and his ancestors.

[Dr. Arch]

McInnes is utter garbage, but he's obviously not a Nazi, as he married a non white woman and has mixed kids.

Racist men often marry out of race to assert their superiority. This is not evidence.

It is evidence that he is not a Nazi. To a Nazi him mixing his blood with a non white is treason to his race and his ancestors.

White supremacist then.