HuffPo: UNC Students Topple Confederate Monument

[Ban my account ffs!]

Sounds like a bunch of virtue signalling leftists got together and looked for something to rage against.

Indeed.  Very unhealthy, even if inevitable.

[Rookie Yinzer]

Yassssss. Massive FFs.

[Sol]

I'm a current unc student and I was at the site last night--sadly wasn't there for the toppling, but several of my close friends were. Ama.

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

Why would you want to go to a university that has “institutional white supremacy,”?  I'm assuming only Freshmen think this way?  Because if you're a Senior and feel this way, YOU"RE AN ASSHOLE!

Using a single word as a catchall for several types of undesirable people gets tiresome.

[Badger]

(whataboutism deleted)

Neither the campus nor the local government want the monument to slavery there, but NC’s autocratic government has banned local governments from removing statues. When you shut down democracy, you get extralegal violence.

This. While I'm not supportive of mob vandalism, on the other Hand LITERALLY  the ONLY other way the student body could've gotten rid of the statute was to somehow undo the excruciating level of GOP gerrymandering the entire state is subject to, win a majority (if not a supermajority) of the state leg, keep the governors office, in order to legislatively allow home rule on such matters.

Or, they could've, and did, eventually say "we've petitioned, we've asked, we protested, and a bunch of elderly "reformed" white supremacists hundreds of miles from here continually said "screw you".

It just dawned on me how snowflakey these right wingers are. They have to have immediate near unrestrained access to assault rifles in order to take "direct action" (i.e. killing feds) against even the THEORY of the government taking away our local rule. But in any actual case of completely ignoring local rule for ages an they get turned inside out over a statue specifically erected by white supremacists being toppled as "the beginning of mob rule.

[KingSweden]

I'm a current unc student and I was at the site last night--sadly wasn't there for the toppling, but several of my close friends were. Ama.

Did they have a good time?

[QAnonKelly]

(whataboutism deleted)

Neither the campus nor the local government want the monument to slavery there, but NC’s autocratic government has banned local governments from removing statues. When you shut down democracy, you get extralegal violence.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

(whataboutism deleted)

Neither the campus nor the local government want the monument to slavery there, but NC’s autocratic government has banned local governments from removing statues. When you shut down democracy, you get extralegal violence.

What are you famed tough guys going to do?

[Brittain33]

(whataboutism deleted)

Neither the campus nor the local government want the monument to slavery there, but NC’s autocratic government has banned local governments from removing statues. When you shut down democracy, you get extralegal violence.

What are you famed tough guys going to do?

Spoilers: take down monuments to slavery by force.

[QAnonKelly]

(whataboutism deleted)

Neither the campus nor the local government want the monument to slavery there, but NC’s autocratic government has banned local governments from removing statues. When you shut down democracy, you get extralegal violence.

What are you famed tough guys going to do?

Neither one of us lives in NC but I imagine putting independent redistricting on the ballot so they never get a 50/50 state drawn to have an artificial supermajority of one party that refuses to work with a governor of a different party whom they stripped of powers ever again would be a good place to start

[Badger]

(whataboutism deleted)

Neither the campus nor the local government want the monument to slavery there, but NC’s autocratic government has banned local governments from removing statues. When you shut down democracy, you get extralegal violence.

What are you famed tough guys going to do?

Once again, you apparently can't wait to break out the doc martins and put those red laces back on to "fight back" against the army of antifa you see waiting for you around every corner.

[Badger]

(whataboutism deleted)

Neither the campus nor the local government want the monument to slavery there, but NC’s autocratic government has banned local governments from removing statues. When you shut down democracy, you get extralegal violence.

What are you famed tough guys going to do?

Neither one of us lives in NC but I imagine putting independent redistricting on the ballot so they never get a 50/50 state drawn to have an artificial supermajority of one party that refuses to work with a governor of a different party whom they stripped of powers ever again would be a good place to start

This x 100

[America Needs a 13-6 Progressive SCOTUS]

(whataboutism deleted)

Neither the campus nor the local government want the monument to slavery there, but NC’s autocratic government has banned local governments from removing statues. When you shut down democracy, you get extralegal violence.

What are you famed tough guys going to do?

Neither one of us lives in NC but I imagine putting independent redistricting on the ballot so they never get a 50/50 state drawn to have an artificial supermajority of one party that refuses to work with a governor of a different party whom they stripped of powers ever again would be a good place to start

NC does not have I&R

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

(whataboutism deleted)

Neither the campus nor the local government want the monument to slavery there, but NC’s autocratic government has banned local governments from removing statues. When you shut down democracy, you get extralegal violence.

What are you famed tough guys going to do?

Once again, you apparently can't wait to break out the doc martins and put those red laces back on to "fight back" against the army of antifa you see waiting for you around every corner.

That doesn't answer the question. It's not particularly original at this point either.

[DavidB.]

All involved should be criminally charged with vandalism if the school will not discipline.

It's not vandalism if they are cleaning up trash.

They are the trash of this country.

This. I hope UNC will punish them (won't hold my breath though, academia is lost...) and I hope footage of this disturbing event can be used to help the GOP win elections -- in NC as well as elsewhere. Fits perfectly in the "left gone wild" narrative that needs to be promoted everywhere.

[IceSpear]

Tear down and burn all the traitorous monuments.

[Ban my account ffs!]

(whataboutism deleted)

Neither the campus nor the local government want the monument to slavery there, but NC’s autocratic government has banned local governments from removing statues. When you shut down democracy, you get extralegal violence.

This. While I'm not supportive of mob vandalism, on the other Hand LITERALLY  the ONLY other way the student body could've gotten rid of the statute was to somehow undo the excruciating level of GOP gerrymandering the entire state is subject to, win a majority (if not a supermajority) of the state leg, keep the governors office, in order to legislatively allow home rule on such matters.

Or, they could've, and did, eventually say "we've petitioned, we've asked, we protested, and a bunch of elderly "reformed" white supremacists hundreds of miles from here continually said "screw you".

It just dawned on me how snowflakey these right wingers are. They have to have immediate near unrestrained access to assault rifles in order to take "direct action" (i.e. killing feds) against even the THEORY of the government taking away our local rule. But in any actual case of completely ignoring local rule for ages an they get turned inside out over a statue specifically erected by white supremacists being toppled as "the beginning of mob rule.

You're just now figuring out that Republican ideology is built completely on fear, insecurity, and paranoia?

You are smarter than that.

[Sumner 1868]

So it’s cool for Seattle to have a statue of a butcher like Vladimir Lenin but not for a former confederate state to have a statue commemorating the war?

Lenin > Lee

[ProudModerate2]

(whataboutism deleted)

Neither the campus nor the local government want the monument to slavery there, but NC’s autocratic government has banned local governments from removing statues. When you shut down democracy, you get extralegal violence.

What are you famed tough guys going to do?

Once again, you apparently can't wait to break out the doc martins and put those red laces back on to "fight back" against the army of antifa you see waiting for you around every corner.

That doesn't answer the question. It's not particularly original at this point either.

The answer was already given to you above, by Brittain33.
Open your eyes. It's re-posted here ...

Spoilers: take down monuments to slavery by force.

[Ban my account ffs!]

Tear down and burn all the traitorous monuments.

Put them in museums.  Hell, make a museum of the Confederacy and put them there.

Our nation's history is full of dark times and warts.  Display them in an appropriate setting.  Leave the public statues for more positive or inspiring things.

[DavidB.]

Also don't want to hear anybody supporting this about Republicans or right-wingers or Trump supposedly breaking the law. And the right is better at this game.

[ProudModerate2]

Tear down and burn all the traitorous monuments.

Put them in museums.  Hell, make a museum of the Confederacy and put them there.
Our nation's history is full of dark times and warts.  Display them in an appropriate setting.  Leave the public statues for more positive or inspiring things.

Agree.
But if government refuses to adhere to the wishes of the local people in the area, then tear/topple them down, and if they are damaged? Oh well.
They should have taken them down earlier, when they had the chance.

[DavidB.]

Agree.
But if government refuses to adhere to the wishes of the local people in the area, then tear/topple them down, and if they are damaged? Oh well.
They should have taken them down earlier, when they had the chance.

The statue was there before the UNC students were there. Perhaps they should have picked a different university if they disliked the statue so much.

[IceSpear]

Also don't want to hear anybody supporting this about Republicans or right-wingers or Trump supposedly breaking the law. And the right is better at this game.

Nice try. This happened because North Carolina Republicans are totalitarians that hate democracy.

[DavidB.]

Also don't want to hear anybody supporting this about Republicans or right-wingers or Trump supposedly breaking the law. And the right is better at this game.

Nice try. This happened because a bunch of UNC students are totalitarians that hate democracy.

ftfy