Alabama Megathread 2: Thou Shall Not Touch Teenage Girls

[smoltchanov]

UGHHHHH, I just want this overworked horse$h!+ to be over... just a few more days...

+100. Second idiocy in one year (1st was Ossoff-Handel) is way too much...

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

UGHHHHH, I just want this overworked horse$h!+ to be over... just a few more days...

+100. Second idiocy in one year (1st was Ossoff-Handel) is way too much...

Agreed.

[Keep cool-idge]

UGHHHHH, I just want this overworked horse$h!+ to be over... just a few more days...

+100. Second idiocy in one year (1st was Ossoff-Handel) is way too much...

Agreed.

[OkThen]

Hardly shocking to anyone but still significant imo...

https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/937330633591881728

[Hindsight was 2020]

Hardly shocking to anyone but still significant imo...

https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/937330633591881728

Wow the right really has no low it will refuse to sink too

[Dr. Arch]

Hardly shocking to anyone but still significant imo...

https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/937330633591881728

So, if Moore does win, Republicans will have no problem seating a pedophile? Good to know.

[junior chįmp]

Hardly shocking to anyone but still significant imo...

https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/937330633591881728

Wow the right really has no low it will refuse to sink too

Don't worry....Moore will be babysitting Paul Ryan's daughters less than a month after inauguration. The Republican Party has no morals, character, or integrity. They are also profoundly anti-family

[RFK Jr.’s Brain Worm]

Hardly shocking to anyone but still significant imo...

https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/937330633591881728

Muh States' Rights!

[Landslide Lyndon]

That thing about people deciding is the biggest BS copout ever. There are things that the people can't, and shouldn't, decide.
The people can't decide to legalize torture.
The people can't decide to make a crime being gay, or muslim, or black, or whatever else they don't like.
If the people of Alabama are so depraved and blinded by partisanship to decide that they are OK with pedophilia then the US senate must step up and say that they reject their decision.
But I guess that's too much to ask by people who kissed the ring of a sexual predator and turned a blind eye when a hostile foreign power meddled with the political/electoral system.

[Attorney General & PPT Dwarven Dragon]

Make no mistake: Dems are likely losing in this race because they failed to force Franken into resignation. Moore supporters who wavered initially are now seeing that Dems only care about Moore allegations because Moore is a republican, and are saying "If Franken can be in Congress, Moore can too!".

[Keep cool-idge]

So CBS has Roy Moore up 49-43 in there new poll.

[Tartarus Sauce]

Make no mistake: Dems are likely losing in this race because they failed to force Franken into resignation. Moore supporters who wavered initially are now seeing that Dems only care about Moore allegations because Moore is a republican, and are saying "If Franken can be in Congress, Moore can too!".

From Harry Enten on Twitter:

“FWIW, the Google Trend data suggests that Alabamans really didn't search for Al Franken at anywhere near the levels they did for Moore. Plausible it had an effect. More convinced time elapsing on Moore allegations had far greater effect”

[Landslide Lyndon]

Make no mistake: Dems are likely losing in this race because they failed to force Franken into resignation. Moore supporters who wavered initially are now seeing that Dems only care about Moore allegations because Moore is a republican, and are saying "If Franken can be in Congress, Moore can too!".

From Harry Enten on Twitter:

“FWIW, the Google Trend data suggests that Alabamans really didn't search for Al Franken at anywhere near the levels they did for Moore. Plausible it had an effect. More convinced time elapsing on Moore allegations had far greater effect”

The Franken talking point is as woke as the one about Northam losing because of Donna Brazile.

[Attorney General & PPT Dwarven Dragon]

And the biggest problem with Franken is it gives McConnell the perfect excuse to avoid expelling Moore. "You Dems/centrist Rs want me to whip up enough Rs to expel Moore? Whip up enough of yourselves to expel Franken first."

[Bleach Blonde Bad Built Butch Bodies for Biden]

And the biggest problem with Franken is it gives McConnell the perfect excuse to avoid expelling Moore. "You Dems/centrist Rs want me to whip up enough Rs to expel Moore? Whip up enough of yourselves to expel Franken first."

Moore and McConnell hate each other and McConnell loses nothing from voting to expel Moore so that another Republican takes the seat.  I don't think Franken's refusal to step down will be a factor at all here.

[Pollster]

Some friends who are working internally for various different groups tell me that Lee Busby polls surprisingly well for a write-in with little media attention - I'm hearing mid/upper single digits. No consensus yet on which candidate he hurts more.

[Holmes]

Some friends who are working internally for various different groups tell me that Lee Busby polls surprisingly well for a write-in with little media attention - I'm hearing mid/upper single digits. No consensus yet on which candidate he hurts more.

Interesting but I doubt it materializes into anything when people have their ballot and actually have to write a name in. With the polls that were done by that had Strange as a write-in, it hurt Moore much more fwiw.

[Virginiá]

Much like the 2016 and likely most elections that are close/large amount of undecideds the last week/2 weeks seems to matter most.  What a terrible message voters are sending to politicians: "If you do something terrible and it's revealed early on and you don't drop out; we'll forget and forgive you by the end."

I think it really depends on the state. There are a ton of states where Moore's sex scandals would have completely ruined him even if it happened months ago (eg, Akin/legit rape happened well before election day and still tanked his campaign), but in a state where the Republican base is so big and so partisan, it's hard to make a big enough impact on them for an extended period of time. If anything, this tells us that in deeply conservative states that are more or less totally GOP-dominated, a Republican candidate's base support is basically impenetrable except for exceptional circumstances, and there is a time limit to how large the damage will be.

Think of it like the T-1000 from Terminator 2. You can damage them, even stop them for a while, but they'll almost always heal and come right back at you

[IceSpear]

That thing about people deciding is the biggest BS copout ever. There are things that the people can't, and shouldn't, decide.
The people can't decide to legalize torture.
The people can't decide to make a crime being gay, or muslim, or black, or whatever else they don't like.
If the people of Alabama are so depraved and blinded by partisanship to decide that they are OK with pedophilia then the US senate must step up and say that they reject their decision.
But I guess that's too much to ask by people who kissed the ring of a sexual predator and turned a blind eye when a hostile foreign power meddled with the political/electoral system.

If it was up to the people, Alabama would still be segregated.

[GeorgiaModerate]

Some in AL business community worried about effects of a Moore win

[IceSpear]

Make no mistake: Dems are likely losing in this race because they failed to force Franken into resignation. Moore supporters who wavered initially are now seeing that Dems only care about Moore allegations because Moore is a republican, and are saying "If Franken can be in Congress, Moore can too!".

Lol no. I know it's hard for some people to accept, but Moore was always inevitable. There's no external event to blame. Alabama Republicans will happily support a pedophile as long as he's a Republican. That's all there is to it.

[Virginiá]

If it was up to the people, Alabama would still be segregated.

It's actually harder than it should be to argue against that when the overall schooling trend seems to be re-segregation, although admittedly for reasons more complex than just brown/black people.

[Holy Unifying Centrist]

the south has some of the least segregated schools ironically enough. new york schools are far more segregated lol

[Brittain33]

the south has some of the least segregated schools ironically enough. new york schools are far more segregated lol

While this was very much true in the 1980s and 1990s, the south has been resegregating rapidly as well.

[kyc0705]

What do you think would happen if IceSpear met a cute guy from Alabama on Grindr, like he did in West Virginia?