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« Reply #1350 on: March 30, 2018, 09:25:29 AM »


Since no one guessed, I will reveal:

This is a map of states where Smith is among the top 3 common names vs other states.
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« Reply #1351 on: March 30, 2018, 11:42:31 AM »
« Edited: March 30, 2018, 02:04:42 PM by King Lear »

I presented these four scenarios, to describe how different Democratic Nominees will fair against Trump in 2020. As you can see from my maps, Warren performs the worst against Trump (she loses to him in a near landslide, winning only 13 states, 183 Electoral Votes, and 45% of the Popular Vote) mainly due to her gender (Trump is very effective at attacking females, just look at what he did to Hillary Clinton) and “Coastal Elitist” image (she was a professor at Harvard). Booker performs slightly better then Warren (he wins 16 states, 210 Electoral Votes, and 48% of the Popular Vote), however he still loses because most White Americans are not ready for another Black president. Biden comes within inches of victory (he holds all the Clinton states, flips Michigan, and wins the Popular Vote by almost 3 points), however, he loses Pennsylvania and Wisconsin by razor-thin margins due to Trump tying him to Barack Obama. Finally, the only candidate I project to defeat Trump is Bernie Sanders (he holds all the Clinton states, flips Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin, and wins the Popular Vote by over 3 points), because his unique ability to communicate Far-Left economic policies (Single-Payer Healthcare, Free College, and a 15-dollar minimum wage), while not talking about Far-Left Social policies (#metoo hysteria and Transgender bathrooms), while simultaneously being genuinely Anti-War (he didn’t vote for the Iraq War, is opposed to invading Iran, and doesn’t blame Russia for Democrats losing elections), allows him to get record turnout from Millennials and Minorities, and win White Working Class voters no other Democrats can appeal to (he does this by not talking about Social issues), which together makes him the only Democrat who can win the Rust Belt and thus the election.

1. The only poll that showed Trump with an 8 point or greater margin was a poll of him vs. Stormy Daniels, a failed republican politician and porn star. In that poll, he was still only able to get 41% of the vote. He also lost to Stephanie Clifford, because people are idiots and don't know who Trump is.
2. Trump has lead in one poll against Warren. That poll was over a year ago. An average of polls this year would give her a 7 pt lead.
3. The United States twice elected Barack Obama, and he left office with very high favorability ratings. He currently has a 60% approval rating and is looking upon by historians as a good president. Being tied to him would help candidates. He has a higher approval rating than Trump in ing Alabama.
4. A 15 dollar minimum wage is moderately popular, but less so than milder increases, especially in rural areas. Single payer is split roughly 50-50 in approval ratings. The Transgender bathroom issue, meanwhile, allowed Democrats to win the governorship of NC while Trump and Burr both won it.
5. Bernie Sanders supported the Serbian war. He supported the 2001 Authorization Unilateral Military Force Against Terrorists, he supported Libya, and he supported an expanded US role in the Syrian Civil War. He voted in favor of an Iraq War twice, by voting for the the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 and a resolution which stated "Congress reaffirms that it should be the policy of the United States to support efforts to remove the regime headed by Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq and to promote the emergence of a democratic  government to replace that regime." He is not by any stretch anti-war. He was against one specific war at one specific time. He was in favor of that war before, and of other wars after.
6. It has been solidly shown that Russia interfered in the United States election. I know you don't like that. It is still true.
7. Bernie Sanders overwhelmingly lost the black vote in the primary election. Bernie Sanders sponsored, lead, and personally profited from an attempt to dump low-level nuclear waste on a poor hispanic community. He is not a white savior, and he will not win minorities by anything like record-breaking margins.
8. There are swing states that are outside the rust belt. There are swing voters who aren't white working class.

In conclusion, every major point in your post is dreadfully wrong. Trump is unpopular, ineffective, and losing in polling to every democratic candidate. Barack Obama is popular and an excellent person for Democrats to tie themselves too. Social issues are the winning ones for Democrats. They have towering majorities on their side for these fights. Legal marijuana, abortion on demand, background checks and gay marriage are all exceptionally popular, in district after district and state after state. Economic leftism, meanwhile, is of middling popularity. Finally, Bernie Sanders is a scandal ridden hypocrite who is far too old for the Oval Office and the only reason Democrats would select him is if they wanted to make gains in 2022 under President Trump. He is the only major Democratic candidate who might botch this, and even then I wouldn't be sure.

Now, I'd like to talk about why you're doing this. You're investing an absurd amount of time and effort to be a blatant republican hack under the guise of a Sanders supporter. You have a willful disregard for anything resembling objective reality. Why? What makes you want to waste your time on bullsh**tting everyone around you? You've invested a tremendous amount of time in making predictions that are completely unrelated to objective reality. Why?
It’s obvious your a true believer in the extremely successful Obama-Clinton strategy, that has left Democrats with no House, no Senate, no Presidency, and record lows in Governorships and state legislatures. If Democrats continue to talk about out of control Social Progressivsm (I support Abortion and Gay Marriage, but #metoo hysteria and Transgender bathrooms are a bridge to far for me), Russophobia, and Economic Centrism (Obamacare was s**ty legislation that jacked up Health insurance prices on consumers and made Health Insurance company’s a fortune, the only way to fix healthcare is Single-Payer), they will never win the House, Senate, or Presidency, for at least a decade. Also, how dare you say Bernie Sanders is a “scandal-ridden hypocrite”, if you want one of those then I will guide you no further then Donald Trump, Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, Paul Ryan, Mich Mcconell, Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi, or any of the other two-faced liars that have dominated American politics since Reagan won his Klan-appeasing campaign in 1980. Bernie Sanders is the most honest elected official in American politics today, and I find it so amusing that you are citing opposition research from the most poorly-run presidential campaign in modern American history (the Hillary Clinton Campaign), in saying Bernie Sanders “dumped toxic waste on Mexicans”. Finally, if the Democrats continue down this horrifying pathway you want them to stay on, I hope they never win another damn election, because their will be no difference between them and the Republicans except on a couple dumb Social issues (both parties will support turning America into a third world country where Rich people and Multinational Corporations Control all wealth, while everyone else is living on the street, in slums, or in prison, and meanwhile the US military will be bombing innocent civilians in the Middle East to protect Zionist Isreal and Wahhabi Saudi Arabia).

1. Use Spellcheck. Seriously.
2. Downballot losses are common during pretty much every presidency. It was exacerbated during the Obama presidency because the south finally became solidly republican downballot and because Republicans, once in power, gerrymandered maps to stay there.
3. There is something here you are not understanding. You may have far-left economic views. You may not be a big social liberal. But that doesn't mean that that policy mix is necessarily popular. Going on a rant about how you think Single-payer is great and transgender people being able to use bathrooms isn't won't change objective reality. One of those issues has popular majorities in support. One does not.
4. Bernie Sanders pushed for low-level nuclear waste to be dumped on a poor hispanic town, and refused to support an amendment giving them any legal recourse. He then got his wife on the board for this, despite this being a texas dump and both of them living in Vermont. They then profited off of her salary for this for nearly two decades.
5. Bernie Sanders called the F-35 program wasteful, but then supported it when it seemed like it would help his state.
6. Sanders voted for the 1994 crime bill then tried hit Clinton for supporting it.
7. Bernie Sanders wrote an essay where he said women want to be raped. In other essays, he stated that children should run around naked and touch each other's genitals, and that cancer is caused by stress from women not putting out. He also voted against the Amber Alert and against criminalizing child pornography.
8. Sanders attended a Nicaraguan anti-America rally during which the crowds chanted “Here, there, everywhere the Yankee will die.” He is on record declaring this demonstration patriotic. Sanders proclaimed that "Breadlines are a good thing". Sanders praised Castro and Nicaragua extensively in a TV interview. Sanders honeymooned in the USSR. It wasn’t his actual honeymoon, but an immediate trip after he was married because he had meetings as mayor in Burlington’s sister city, Yaroslavl. Would this distinction matter? Probably not. Sanders hung a Soviet flag in his office in Burlington in honor of this sister city arrangement. Would it be painted as tacitly endorsing the commies? Probably.
Sanders participated in an interview in which he says “Capitalism as an economic system has to be radically altered and changed” and “Democracy means public ownership of the major means of production, it means decentralization, it means involving people in their work. Rather than having bosses and workers it means having democratic control over the factories and shops to as great a degree as you can.” Sanders says that he has his own feelings about what causes cancer. Sanders stated that he “doesn’t believe in charities.” Sanders states that he was excited about the revolution in Cuba because he felt it was right that the poor people were standing up to the "ugly rich people."

Sanders is a politician who has a history of dirty dealings, especially around his wife. He also has a past filled with ridiculous, obviously unpopular statements.

9. I know you don't like the fact that social issues are more popular than economic issues. I know you don't like the fact that Sanders is unpopular. Too bad. It is still true.
I’m sick of constantly hearing about his “sex essays” from the 1970s, when almost everyone was writing sex essays in the 1960s and 1970s, (one of my favorite books, “One flew over the cuckoos nest”, was written in that time period and had lots of weird sex stuff in it). And the rest of your argument is mainly a bunch of washed-up Clinton campaign oppo research (I see you keep regurgitating the “dumped toxic waste on Mexicans” talking point), and what’s wrong with the fact he may have been a Communist in the 1980s, it’s obvious he isn’t now, because a real “Communist” wouldn’t serve as a congressman and senator. Finally, Their is a lot of polling that disproves your view that Far-Left Social policies are more popular then Far-Left economic policies, for example I’ve seen polling that around 10 times as many Americans are Economically Left-wing and Socialy Right-wing, then Economicaly Right-wing and Socialy Left-wing (this last combination seems to be you’re ideology).
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« Reply #1352 on: March 30, 2018, 11:46:10 AM »

Obama strategy is a "failure"? lol.

Presidential elections won by Obama: 2
Presidential elections won by Bernie Sanders: 0
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« Reply #1353 on: March 30, 2018, 01:22:53 PM »


Governor Jay Inslee / Senator Tammy Baldwin (D)
President Michael Pence / Secretary Nikki Haley (R)
Lieutenant Governor Spencer J. Cox / Former Congressman Carlos Curbelo (I)

Wanted to do a map where Democrats are blue and Republicans are red for once. Please forgive any eye bleeding that I may have caused by switching the party colors.

Also I reposted this for the purpose of breaking up the argument occurring in the *MAPS* thread and hopefully cause it to end.
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« Reply #1354 on: March 30, 2018, 01:30:54 PM »


Governor Jay Inslee / Senator Tammy Baldwin (D)
President Michael Pence / Secretary Nikki Haley (R)
Lieutenant Governor Spencer J. Cox / Former Congressman Carlos Curbelo (I)

Wanted to do a map where Democrats are blue and Republicans are red for once. Please forgive any eye bleeding that I may have caused by switching the party colors.

Also I reposted this for the purpose of breaking up the argument occurring in the *MAPS* thread and hopefully cause it to end.
Pence even loses his home state? savage!
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« Reply #1355 on: March 30, 2018, 01:36:37 PM »

Battle of the Hoosiers
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Mayor Pete Buttigieg / Senator Tammy Baldwin: 51.2%, 307 EV
Vice President Mike Pence / Attorney General Jeff Sessions: 46.5%, 231 EV
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« Reply #1356 on: March 30, 2018, 01:53:02 PM »

I presented these four scenarios, to describe how different Democratic Nominees will fair against Trump in 2020. As you can see from my maps, Warren performs the worst against Trump (she loses to him in a near landslide, winning only 13 states, 183 Electoral Votes, and 45% of the Popular Vote) mainly due to her gender (Trump is very effective at attacking females, just look at what he did to Hillary Clinton) and “Coastal Elitist” image (she was a professor at Harvard). Booker performs slightly better then Warren (he wins 16 states, 210 Electoral Votes, and 48% of the Popular Vote), however he still loses because most White Americans are not ready for another Black president. Biden comes within inches of victory (he holds all the Clinton states, flips Michigan, and wins the Popular Vote by almost 3 points), however, he loses Pennsylvania and Wisconsin by razor-thin margins due to Trump tying him to Barack Obama. Finally, the only candidate I project to defeat Trump is Bernie Sanders (he holds all the Clinton states, flips Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin, and wins the Popular Vote by over 3 points), because his unique ability to communicate Far-Left economic policies (Single-Payer Healthcare, Free College, and a 15-dollar minimum wage), while not talking about Far-Left Social policies (#metoo hysteria and Transgender bathrooms), while simultaneously being genuinely Anti-War (he didn’t vote for the Iraq War, is opposed to invading Iran, and doesn’t blame Russia for Democrats losing elections), allows him to get record turnout from Millennials and Minorities, and win White Working Class voters no other Democrats can appeal to (he does this by not talking about Social issues), which together makes him the only Democrat who can win the Rust Belt and thus the election.

1. The only poll that showed Trump with an 8 point or greater margin was a poll of him vs. Stormy Daniels, a failed republican politician and porn star. In that poll, he was still only able to get 41% of the vote. He also lost to Stephanie Clifford, because people are idiots and don't know who Trump is.
2. Trump has lead in one poll against Warren. That poll was over a year ago. An average of polls this year would give her a 7 pt lead.
3. The United States twice elected Barack Obama, and he left office with very high favorability ratings. He currently has a 60% approval rating and is looking upon by historians as a good president. Being tied to him would help candidates. He has a higher approval rating than Trump in ing Alabama.
4. A 15 dollar minimum wage is moderately popular, but less so than milder increases, especially in rural areas. Single payer is split roughly 50-50 in approval ratings. The Transgender bathroom issue, meanwhile, allowed Democrats to win the governorship of NC while Trump and Burr both won it.
5. Bernie Sanders supported the Serbian war. He supported the 2001 Authorization Unilateral Military Force Against Terrorists, he supported Libya, and he supported an expanded US role in the Syrian Civil War. He voted in favor of an Iraq War twice, by voting for the the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 and a resolution which stated "Congress reaffirms that it should be the policy of the United States to support efforts to remove the regime headed by Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq and to promote the emergence of a democratic  government to replace that regime." He is not by any stretch anti-war. He was against one specific war at one specific time. He was in favor of that war before, and of other wars after.
6. It has been solidly shown that Russia interfered in the United States election. I know you don't like that. It is still true.
7. Bernie Sanders overwhelmingly lost the black vote in the primary election. Bernie Sanders sponsored, lead, and personally profited from an attempt to dump low-level nuclear waste on a poor hispanic community. He is not a white savior, and he will not win minorities by anything like record-breaking margins.
8. There are swing states that are outside the rust belt. There are swing voters who aren't white working class.

In conclusion, every major point in your post is dreadfully wrong. Trump is unpopular, ineffective, and losing in polling to every democratic candidate. Barack Obama is popular and an excellent person for Democrats to tie themselves too. Social issues are the winning ones for Democrats. They have towering majorities on their side for these fights. Legal marijuana, abortion on demand, background checks and gay marriage are all exceptionally popular, in district after district and state after state. Economic leftism, meanwhile, is of middling popularity. Finally, Bernie Sanders is a scandal ridden hypocrite who is far too old for the Oval Office and the only reason Democrats would select him is if they wanted to make gains in 2022 under President Trump. He is the only major Democratic candidate who might botch this, and even then I wouldn't be sure.

Now, I'd like to talk about why you're doing this. You're investing an absurd amount of time and effort to be a blatant republican hack under the guise of a Sanders supporter. You have a willful disregard for anything resembling objective reality. Why? What makes you want to waste your time on bullsh**tting everyone around you? You've invested a tremendous amount of time in making predictions that are completely unrelated to objective reality. Why?
It’s obvious your a true believer in the extremely successful Obama-Clinton strategy, that has left Democrats with no House, no Senate, no Presidency, and record lows in Governorships and state legislatures. If Democrats continue to talk about out of control Social Progressivsm (I support Abortion and Gay Marriage, but #metoo hysteria and Transgender bathrooms are a bridge to far for me), Russophobia, and Economic Centrism (Obamacare was s**ty legislation that jacked up Health insurance prices on consumers and made Health Insurance company’s a fortune, the only way to fix healthcare is Single-Payer), they will never win the House, Senate, or Presidency, for at least a decade. Also, how dare you say Bernie Sanders is a “scandal-ridden hypocrite”, if you want one of those then I will guide you no further then Donald Trump, Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, Paul Ryan, Mich Mcconell, Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi, or any of the other two-faced liars that have dominated American politics since Reagan won his Klan-appeasing campaign in 1980. Bernie Sanders is the most honest elected official in American politics today, and I find it so amusing that you are citing opposition research from the most poorly-run presidential campaign in modern American history (the Hillary Clinton Campaign), in saying Bernie Sanders “dumped toxic waste on Mexicans”. Finally, if the Democrats continue down this horrifying pathway you want them to stay on, I hope they never win another damn election, because their will be no difference between them and the Republicans except on a couple dumb Social issues (both parties will support turning America into a third world country where Rich people and Multinational Corporations Control all wealth, while everyone else is living on the street, in slums, or in prison, and meanwhile the US military will be bombing innocent civilians in the Middle East to protect Zionist Isreal and Wahhabi Saudi Arabia).

1. Use Spellcheck. Seriously.
2. Downballot losses are common during pretty much every presidency. It was exacerbated during the Obama presidency because the south finally became solidly republican downballot and because Republicans, once in power, gerrymandered maps to stay there.
3. There is something here you are not understanding. You may have far-left economic views. You may not be a big social liberal. But that doesn't mean that that policy mix is necessarily popular. Going on a rant about how you think Single-payer is great and transgender people being able to use bathrooms isn't won't change objective reality. One of those issues has popular majorities in support. One does not.
4. Bernie Sanders pushed for low-level nuclear waste to be dumped on a poor hispanic town, and refused to support an amendment giving them any legal recourse. He then got his wife on the board for this, despite this being a texas dump and both of them living in Vermont. They then profited off of her salary for this for nearly two decades.
5. Bernie Sanders called the F-35 program wasteful, but then supported it when it seemed like it would help his state.
6. Sanders voted for the 1994 crime bill then tried hit Clinton for supporting it.
7. Bernie Sanders wrote an essay where he said women want to be raped. In other essays, he stated that children should run around naked and touch each other's genitals, and that cancer is caused by stress from women not putting out. He also voted against the Amber Alert and against criminalizing child pornography.
8. Sanders attended a Nicaraguan anti-America rally during which the crowds chanted “Here, there, everywhere the Yankee will die.” He is on record declaring this demonstration patriotic. Sanders proclaimed that "Breadlines are a good thing". Sanders praised Castro and Nicaragua extensively in a TV interview. Sanders honeymooned in the USSR. It wasn’t his actual honeymoon, but an immediate trip after he was married because he had meetings as mayor in Burlington’s sister city, Yaroslavl. Would this distinction matter? Probably not. Sanders hung a Soviet flag in his office in Burlington in honor of this sister city arrangement. Would it be painted as tacitly endorsing the commies? Probably.
Sanders participated in an interview in which he says “Capitalism as an economic system has to be radically altered and changed” and “Democracy means public ownership of the major means of production, it means decentralization, it means involving people in their work. Rather than having bosses and workers it means having democratic control over the factories and shops to as great a degree as you can.” Sanders says that he has his own feelings about what causes cancer. Sanders stated that he “doesn’t believe in charities.” Sanders states that he was excited about the revolution in Cuba because he felt it was right that the poor people were standing up to the "ugly rich people."

Sanders is a politician who has a history of dirty dealings, especially around his wife. He also has a past filled with ridiculous, obviously unpopular statements.

9. I know you don't like the fact that social issues are more popular than economic issues. I know you don't like the fact that Sanders is unpopular. Too bad. It is still true.
I’m sick of constantly hearing about his “sex essays” from the 1970s, when almost everyone was writing sex essays in the 1960s and 1970s, (one of my favorite books, “One flew over the cuckoos nest”, was written in that time period and had lots of weird sex stuff in it). And the rest of your argument is mainly a bunch of washed-up Clinton campaign oppo research (I see you keep regurgitating the “dumbed toxic waste on Mexicans” talking point), and what’s wrong with the fact he may have been a Communist in the 1980s, it’s obvious he isn’t now, because a real “Communist” wouldn’t serve as a congressman and senator. Finally, Their is a lot of polling that disproves your view that Far-Left Social policies are more popular then Far-Left economic policies, for example I’ve seen polling that around 10 times as many Americans are Economically Left-wing and Socialy Right-wing, then Economicaly Right-wing and Socialy Left-wing (this last combination seems to be you’re ideology).

Let me summarize your post.
1. Spelling errors.
2. If anyone has ever brought up this flaw of Sanders, then it's washed up oppo research.
3. Waaaaa! Why doesn't anyone agree with me? Waaaaa! Why are policies I support unpopular? Waaaaa!
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« Reply #1357 on: March 30, 2018, 02:00:19 PM »

I presented these four scenarios, to describe how different Democratic Nominees will fair against Trump in 2020. As you can see from my maps, Warren performs the worst against Trump (she loses to him in a near landslide, winning only 13 states, 183 Electoral Votes, and 45% of the Popular Vote) mainly due to her gender (Trump is very effective at attacking females, just look at what he did to Hillary Clinton) and “Coastal Elitist” image (she was a professor at Harvard). Booker performs slightly better then Warren (he wins 16 states, 210 Electoral Votes, and 48% of the Popular Vote), however he still loses because most White Americans are not ready for another Black president. Biden comes within inches of victory (he holds all the Clinton states, flips Michigan, and wins the Popular Vote by almost 3 points), however, he loses Pennsylvania and Wisconsin by razor-thin margins due to Trump tying him to Barack Obama. Finally, the only candidate I project to defeat Trump is Bernie Sanders (he holds all the Clinton states, flips Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin, and wins the Popular Vote by over 3 points), because his unique ability to communicate Far-Left economic policies (Single-Payer Healthcare, Free College, and a 15-dollar minimum wage), while not talking about Far-Left Social policies (#metoo hysteria and Transgender bathrooms), while simultaneously being genuinely Anti-War (he didn’t vote for the Iraq War, is opposed to invading Iran, and doesn’t blame Russia for Democrats losing elections), allows him to get record turnout from Millennials and Minorities, and win White Working Class voters no other Democrats can appeal to (he does this by not talking about Social issues), which together makes him the only Democrat who can win the Rust Belt and thus the election.

1. The only poll that showed Trump with an 8 point or greater margin was a poll of him vs. Stormy Daniels, a failed republican politician and porn star. In that poll, he was still only able to get 41% of the vote. He also lost to Stephanie Clifford, because people are idiots and don't know who Trump is.
2. Trump has lead in one poll against Warren. That poll was over a year ago. An average of polls this year would give her a 7 pt lead.
3. The United States twice elected Barack Obama, and he left office with very high favorability ratings. He currently has a 60% approval rating and is looking upon by historians as a good president. Being tied to him would help candidates. He has a higher approval rating than Trump in ing Alabama.
4. A 15 dollar minimum wage is moderately popular, but less so than milder increases, especially in rural areas. Single payer is split roughly 50-50 in approval ratings. The Transgender bathroom issue, meanwhile, allowed Democrats to win the governorship of NC while Trump and Burr both won it.
5. Bernie Sanders supported the Serbian war. He supported the 2001 Authorization Unilateral Military Force Against Terrorists, he supported Libya, and he supported an expanded US role in the Syrian Civil War. He voted in favor of an Iraq War twice, by voting for the the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 and a resolution which stated "Congress reaffirms that it should be the policy of the United States to support efforts to remove the regime headed by Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq and to promote the emergence of a democratic  government to replace that regime." He is not by any stretch anti-war. He was against one specific war at one specific time. He was in favor of that war before, and of other wars after.
6. It has been solidly shown that Russia interfered in the United States election. I know you don't like that. It is still true.
7. Bernie Sanders overwhelmingly lost the black vote in the primary election. Bernie Sanders sponsored, lead, and personally profited from an attempt to dump low-level nuclear waste on a poor hispanic community. He is not a white savior, and he will not win minorities by anything like record-breaking margins.
8. There are swing states that are outside the rust belt. There are swing voters who aren't white working class.

In conclusion, every major point in your post is dreadfully wrong. Trump is unpopular, ineffective, and losing in polling to every democratic candidate. Barack Obama is popular and an excellent person for Democrats to tie themselves too. Social issues are the winning ones for Democrats. They have towering majorities on their side for these fights. Legal marijuana, abortion on demand, background checks and gay marriage are all exceptionally popular, in district after district and state after state. Economic leftism, meanwhile, is of middling popularity. Finally, Bernie Sanders is a scandal ridden hypocrite who is far too old for the Oval Office and the only reason Democrats would select him is if they wanted to make gains in 2022 under President Trump. He is the only major Democratic candidate who might botch this, and even then I wouldn't be sure.

Now, I'd like to talk about why you're doing this. You're investing an absurd amount of time and effort to be a blatant republican hack under the guise of a Sanders supporter. You have a willful disregard for anything resembling objective reality. Why? What makes you want to waste your time on bullsh**tting everyone around you? You've invested a tremendous amount of time in making predictions that are completely unrelated to objective reality. Why?
It’s obvious your a true believer in the extremely successful Obama-Clinton strategy, that has left Democrats with no House, no Senate, no Presidency, and record lows in Governorships and state legislatures. If Democrats continue to talk about out of control Social Progressivsm (I support Abortion and Gay Marriage, but #metoo hysteria and Transgender bathrooms are a bridge to far for me), Russophobia, and Economic Centrism (Obamacare was s**ty legislation that jacked up Health insurance prices on consumers and made Health Insurance company’s a fortune, the only way to fix healthcare is Single-Payer), they will never win the House, Senate, or Presidency, for at least a decade. Also, how dare you say Bernie Sanders is a “scandal-ridden hypocrite”, if you want one of those then I will guide you no further then Donald Trump, Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, Paul Ryan, Mich Mcconell, Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi, or any of the other two-faced liars that have dominated American politics since Reagan won his Klan-appeasing campaign in 1980. Bernie Sanders is the most honest elected official in American politics today, and I find it so amusing that you are citing opposition research from the most poorly-run presidential campaign in modern American history (the Hillary Clinton Campaign), in saying Bernie Sanders “dumped toxic waste on Mexicans”. Finally, if the Democrats continue down this horrifying pathway you want them to stay on, I hope they never win another damn election, because their will be no difference between them and the Republicans except on a couple dumb Social issues (both parties will support turning America into a third world country where Rich people and Multinational Corporations Control all wealth, while everyone else is living on the street, in slums, or in prison, and meanwhile the US military will be bombing innocent civilians in the Middle East to protect Zionist Isreal and Wahhabi Saudi Arabia).

1. Use Spellcheck. Seriously.
2. Downballot losses are common during pretty much every presidency. It was exacerbated during the Obama presidency because the south finally became solidly republican downballot and because Republicans, once in power, gerrymandered maps to stay there.
3. There is something here you are not understanding. You may have far-left economic views. You may not be a big social liberal. But that doesn't mean that that policy mix is necessarily popular. Going on a rant about how you think Single-payer is great and transgender people being able to use bathrooms isn't won't change objective reality. One of those issues has popular majorities in support. One does not.
4. Bernie Sanders pushed for low-level nuclear waste to be dumped on a poor hispanic town, and refused to support an amendment giving them any legal recourse. He then got his wife on the board for this, despite this being a texas dump and both of them living in Vermont. They then profited off of her salary for this for nearly two decades.
5. Bernie Sanders called the F-35 program wasteful, but then supported it when it seemed like it would help his state.
6. Sanders voted for the 1994 crime bill then tried hit Clinton for supporting it.
7. Bernie Sanders wrote an essay where he said women want to be raped. In other essays, he stated that children should run around naked and touch each other's genitals, and that cancer is caused by stress from women not putting out. He also voted against the Amber Alert and against criminalizing child pornography.
8. Sanders attended a Nicaraguan anti-America rally during which the crowds chanted “Here, there, everywhere the Yankee will die.” He is on record declaring this demonstration patriotic. Sanders proclaimed that "Breadlines are a good thing". Sanders praised Castro and Nicaragua extensively in a TV interview. Sanders honeymooned in the USSR. It wasn’t his actual honeymoon, but an immediate trip after he was married because he had meetings as mayor in Burlington’s sister city, Yaroslavl. Would this distinction matter? Probably not. Sanders hung a Soviet flag in his office in Burlington in honor of this sister city arrangement. Would it be painted as tacitly endorsing the commies? Probably.
Sanders participated in an interview in which he says “Capitalism as an economic system has to be radically altered and changed” and “Democracy means public ownership of the major means of production, it means decentralization, it means involving people in their work. Rather than having bosses and workers it means having democratic control over the factories and shops to as great a degree as you can.” Sanders says that he has his own feelings about what causes cancer. Sanders stated that he “doesn’t believe in charities.” Sanders states that he was excited about the revolution in Cuba because he felt it was right that the poor people were standing up to the "ugly rich people."

Sanders is a politician who has a history of dirty dealings, especially around his wife. He also has a past filled with ridiculous, obviously unpopular statements.

9. I know you don't like the fact that social issues are more popular than economic issues. I know you don't like the fact that Sanders is unpopular. Too bad. It is still true.
I’m sick of constantly hearing about his “sex essays” from the 1970s, when almost everyone was writing sex essays in the 1960s and 1970s, (one of my favorite books, “One flew over the cuckoos nest”, was written in that time period and had lots of weird sex stuff in it). And the rest of your argument is mainly a bunch of washed-up Clinton campaign oppo research (I see you keep regurgitating the “dumbed toxic waste on Mexicans” talking point), and what’s wrong with the fact he may have been a Communist in the 1980s, it’s obvious he isn’t now, because a real “Communist” wouldn’t serve as a congressman and senator. Finally, Their is a lot of polling that disproves your view that Far-Left Social policies are more popular then Far-Left economic policies, for example I’ve seen polling that around 10 times as many Americans are Economically Left-wing and Socialy Right-wing, then Economicaly Right-wing and Socialy Left-wing (this last combination seems to be you’re ideology).

Let me summarize your post.
1. Spelling errors.
2. If anyone has ever brought up this flaw of Sanders, then it's washed up oppo research.
3. Waaaaa! Why doesn't anyone agree with me? Waaaaa! Why are policies I support unpopular? Waaaaa!

King Lear writes with one hand looking at the populist quadrant of the political compass, but you're writing with one hand looking at the libertarian quadrant of the political compass. The Democratic party is a liberal party, not fiscally or socially conservative.
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« Reply #1358 on: March 30, 2018, 02:33:54 PM »

I presented these four scenarios, to describe how different Democratic Nominees will fair against Trump in 2020. As you can see from my maps, Warren performs the worst against Trump (she loses to him in a near landslide, winning only 13 states, 183 Electoral Votes, and 45% of the Popular Vote) mainly due to her gender (Trump is very effective at attacking females, just look at what he did to Hillary Clinton) and “Coastal Elitist” image (she was a professor at Harvard). Booker performs slightly better then Warren (he wins 16 states, 210 Electoral Votes, and 48% of the Popular Vote), however he still loses because most White Americans are not ready for another Black president. Biden comes within inches of victory (he holds all the Clinton states, flips Michigan, and wins the Popular Vote by almost 3 points), however, he loses Pennsylvania and Wisconsin by razor-thin margins due to Trump tying him to Barack Obama. Finally, the only candidate I project to defeat Trump is Bernie Sanders (he holds all the Clinton states, flips Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin, and wins the Popular Vote by over 3 points), because his unique ability to communicate Far-Left economic policies (Single-Payer Healthcare, Free College, and a 15-dollar minimum wage), while not talking about Far-Left Social policies (#metoo hysteria and Transgender bathrooms), while simultaneously being genuinely Anti-War (he didn’t vote for the Iraq War, is opposed to invading Iran, and doesn’t blame Russia for Democrats losing elections), allows him to get record turnout from Millennials and Minorities, and win White Working Class voters no other Democrats can appeal to (he does this by not talking about Social issues), which together makes him the only Democrat who can win the Rust Belt and thus the election.

1. The only poll that showed Trump with an 8 point or greater margin was a poll of him vs. Stormy Daniels, a failed republican politician and porn star. In that poll, he was still only able to get 41% of the vote. He also lost to Stephanie Clifford, because people are idiots and don't know who Trump is.
2. Trump has lead in one poll against Warren. That poll was over a year ago. An average of polls this year would give her a 7 pt lead.
3. The United States twice elected Barack Obama, and he left office with very high favorability ratings. He currently has a 60% approval rating and is looking upon by historians as a good president. Being tied to him would help candidates. He has a higher approval rating than Trump in ing Alabama.
4. A 15 dollar minimum wage is moderately popular, but less so than milder increases, especially in rural areas. Single payer is split roughly 50-50 in approval ratings. The Transgender bathroom issue, meanwhile, allowed Democrats to win the governorship of NC while Trump and Burr both won it.
5. Bernie Sanders supported the Serbian war. He supported the 2001 Authorization Unilateral Military Force Against Terrorists, he supported Libya, and he supported an expanded US role in the Syrian Civil War. He voted in favor of an Iraq War twice, by voting for the the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 and a resolution which stated "Congress reaffirms that it should be the policy of the United States to support efforts to remove the regime headed by Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq and to promote the emergence of a democratic  government to replace that regime." He is not by any stretch anti-war. He was against one specific war at one specific time. He was in favor of that war before, and of other wars after.
6. It has been solidly shown that Russia interfered in the United States election. I know you don't like that. It is still true.
7. Bernie Sanders overwhelmingly lost the black vote in the primary election. Bernie Sanders sponsored, lead, and personally profited from an attempt to dump low-level nuclear waste on a poor hispanic community. He is not a white savior, and he will not win minorities by anything like record-breaking margins.
8. There are swing states that are outside the rust belt. There are swing voters who aren't white working class.

In conclusion, every major point in your post is dreadfully wrong. Trump is unpopular, ineffective, and losing in polling to every democratic candidate. Barack Obama is popular and an excellent person for Democrats to tie themselves too. Social issues are the winning ones for Democrats. They have towering majorities on their side for these fights. Legal marijuana, abortion on demand, background checks and gay marriage are all exceptionally popular, in district after district and state after state. Economic leftism, meanwhile, is of middling popularity. Finally, Bernie Sanders is a scandal ridden hypocrite who is far too old for the Oval Office and the only reason Democrats would select him is if they wanted to make gains in 2022 under President Trump. He is the only major Democratic candidate who might botch this, and even then I wouldn't be sure.

Now, I'd like to talk about why you're doing this. You're investing an absurd amount of time and effort to be a blatant republican hack under the guise of a Sanders supporter. You have a willful disregard for anything resembling objective reality. Why? What makes you want to waste your time on bullsh**tting everyone around you? You've invested a tremendous amount of time in making predictions that are completely unrelated to objective reality. Why?
It’s obvious your a true believer in the extremely successful Obama-Clinton strategy, that has left Democrats with no House, no Senate, no Presidency, and record lows in Governorships and state legislatures. If Democrats continue to talk about out of control Social Progressivsm (I support Abortion and Gay Marriage, but #metoo hysteria and Transgender bathrooms are a bridge to far for me), Russophobia, and Economic Centrism (Obamacare was s**ty legislation that jacked up Health insurance prices on consumers and made Health Insurance company’s a fortune, the only way to fix healthcare is Single-Payer), they will never win the House, Senate, or Presidency, for at least a decade. Also, how dare you say Bernie Sanders is a “scandal-ridden hypocrite”, if you want one of those then I will guide you no further then Donald Trump, Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, Paul Ryan, Mich Mcconell, Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi, or any of the other two-faced liars that have dominated American politics since Reagan won his Klan-appeasing campaign in 1980. Bernie Sanders is the most honest elected official in American politics today, and I find it so amusing that you are citing opposition research from the most poorly-run presidential campaign in modern American history (the Hillary Clinton Campaign), in saying Bernie Sanders “dumped toxic waste on Mexicans”. Finally, if the Democrats continue down this horrifying pathway you want them to stay on, I hope they never win another damn election, because their will be no difference between them and the Republicans except on a couple dumb Social issues (both parties will support turning America into a third world country where Rich people and Multinational Corporations Control all wealth, while everyone else is living on the street, in slums, or in prison, and meanwhile the US military will be bombing innocent civilians in the Middle East to protect Zionist Isreal and Wahhabi Saudi Arabia).

1. Use Spellcheck. Seriously.
2. Downballot losses are common during pretty much every presidency. It was exacerbated during the Obama presidency because the south finally became solidly republican downballot and because Republicans, once in power, gerrymandered maps to stay there.
3. There is something here you are not understanding. You may have far-left economic views. You may not be a big social liberal. But that doesn't mean that that policy mix is necessarily popular. Going on a rant about how you think Single-payer is great and transgender people being able to use bathrooms isn't won't change objective reality. One of those issues has popular majorities in support. One does not.
4. Bernie Sanders pushed for low-level nuclear waste to be dumped on a poor hispanic town, and refused to support an amendment giving them any legal recourse. He then got his wife on the board for this, despite this being a texas dump and both of them living in Vermont. They then profited off of her salary for this for nearly two decades.
5. Bernie Sanders called the F-35 program wasteful, but then supported it when it seemed like it would help his state.
6. Sanders voted for the 1994 crime bill then tried hit Clinton for supporting it.
7. Bernie Sanders wrote an essay where he said women want to be raped. In other essays, he stated that children should run around naked and touch each other's genitals, and that cancer is caused by stress from women not putting out. He also voted against the Amber Alert and against criminalizing child pornography.
8. Sanders attended a Nicaraguan anti-America rally during which the crowds chanted “Here, there, everywhere the Yankee will die.” He is on record declaring this demonstration patriotic. Sanders proclaimed that "Breadlines are a good thing". Sanders praised Castro and Nicaragua extensively in a TV interview. Sanders honeymooned in the USSR. It wasn’t his actual honeymoon, but an immediate trip after he was married because he had meetings as mayor in Burlington’s sister city, Yaroslavl. Would this distinction matter? Probably not. Sanders hung a Soviet flag in his office in Burlington in honor of this sister city arrangement. Would it be painted as tacitly endorsing the commies? Probably.
Sanders participated in an interview in which he says “Capitalism as an economic system has to be radically altered and changed” and “Democracy means public ownership of the major means of production, it means decentralization, it means involving people in their work. Rather than having bosses and workers it means having democratic control over the factories and shops to as great a degree as you can.” Sanders says that he has his own feelings about what causes cancer. Sanders stated that he “doesn’t believe in charities.” Sanders states that he was excited about the revolution in Cuba because he felt it was right that the poor people were standing up to the "ugly rich people."

Sanders is a politician who has a history of dirty dealings, especially around his wife. He also has a past filled with ridiculous, obviously unpopular statements.

9. I know you don't like the fact that social issues are more popular than economic issues. I know you don't like the fact that Sanders is unpopular. Too bad. It is still true.
I’m sick of constantly hearing about his “sex essays” from the 1970s, when almost everyone was writing sex essays in the 1960s and 1970s, (one of my favorite books, “One flew over the cuckoos nest”, was written in that time period and had lots of weird sex stuff in it). And the rest of your argument is mainly a bunch of washed-up Clinton campaign oppo research (I see you keep regurgitating the “dumbed toxic waste on Mexicans” talking point), and what’s wrong with the fact he may have been a Communist in the 1980s, it’s obvious he isn’t now, because a real “Communist” wouldn’t serve as a congressman and senator. Finally, Their is a lot of polling that disproves your view that Far-Left Social policies are more popular then Far-Left economic policies, for example I’ve seen polling that around 10 times as many Americans are Economically Left-wing and Socialy Right-wing, then Economicaly Right-wing and Socialy Left-wing (this last combination seems to be you’re ideology).

Let me summarize your post.
1. Spelling errors.
2. If anyone has ever brought up this flaw of Sanders, then it's washed up oppo research.
3. Waaaaa! Why doesn't anyone agree with me? Waaaaa! Why are policies I support unpopular? Waaaaa!

King Lear writes with one hand looking at the populist quadrant of the political compass, but you're writing with one hand looking at the libertarian quadrant of the political compass. The Democratic party is a liberal party, not fiscally or socially conservative.
For the record, I’m not “Socially Conservative”, I am 100% Pro-Choice and I support Gay Marriage, which are views that would have had me branded “Far-Left” on social issues just 10 years ago. However, I will admit that I don’t understand this “Transgender” stuff (A biological Male turning themselves into a Female and vice-versa doesn’t make sense to me), and I don’t think men should lose their jobs and be banished from society just because a women accuses them of misconduct 30 years ago that obviously wasn’t severe enough to report to the cops. Finally, I believe that Democratic campaigns should devote most of their energy to promoting Left-wing economic policies (Single-Payer, Free College, and a Living Wage), instead of Left-wing Social policies I do support (Legal Abortion and Gay Marriage) and those I don’t (Transgenderism and #metoo), because something many Democrats on this website don’t understand is that the voters Democrats need to turnout to win elections (Low-income Blacks and Hispanics), will only turnout if they can get Left-wing Economic polices that will keep them out of extreme poverty, and the last issues they want to hear about are Transgender bathrooms and the #metoo movement.
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« Reply #1359 on: March 30, 2018, 02:51:42 PM »

I presented these four scenarios, to describe how different Democratic Nominees will fair against Trump in 2020. As you can see from my maps, Warren performs the worst against Trump (she loses to him in a near landslide, winning only 13 states, 183 Electoral Votes, and 45% of the Popular Vote) mainly due to her gender (Trump is very effective at attacking females, just look at what he did to Hillary Clinton) and “Coastal Elitist” image (she was a professor at Harvard). Booker performs slightly better then Warren (he wins 16 states, 210 Electoral Votes, and 48% of the Popular Vote), however he still loses because most White Americans are not ready for another Black president. Biden comes within inches of victory (he holds all the Clinton states, flips Michigan, and wins the Popular Vote by almost 3 points), however, he loses Pennsylvania and Wisconsin by razor-thin margins due to Trump tying him to Barack Obama. Finally, the only candidate I project to defeat Trump is Bernie Sanders (he holds all the Clinton states, flips Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin, and wins the Popular Vote by over 3 points), because his unique ability to communicate Far-Left economic policies (Single-Payer Healthcare, Free College, and a 15-dollar minimum wage), while not talking about Far-Left Social policies (#metoo hysteria and Transgender bathrooms), while simultaneously being genuinely Anti-War (he didn’t vote for the Iraq War, is opposed to invading Iran, and doesn’t blame Russia for Democrats losing elections), allows him to get record turnout from Millennials and Minorities, and win White Working Class voters no other Democrats can appeal to (he does this by not talking about Social issues), which together makes him the only Democrat who can win the Rust Belt and thus the election.

1. The only poll that showed Trump with an 8 point or greater margin was a poll of him vs. Stormy Daniels, a failed republican politician and porn star. In that poll, he was still only able to get 41% of the vote. He also lost to Stephanie Clifford, because people are idiots and don't know who Trump is.
2. Trump has lead in one poll against Warren. That poll was over a year ago. An average of polls this year would give her a 7 pt lead.
3. The United States twice elected Barack Obama, and he left office with very high favorability ratings. He currently has a 60% approval rating and is looking upon by historians as a good president. Being tied to him would help candidates. He has a higher approval rating than Trump in ing Alabama.
4. A 15 dollar minimum wage is moderately popular, but less so than milder increases, especially in rural areas. Single payer is split roughly 50-50 in approval ratings. The Transgender bathroom issue, meanwhile, allowed Democrats to win the governorship of NC while Trump and Burr both won it.
5. Bernie Sanders supported the Serbian war. He supported the 2001 Authorization Unilateral Military Force Against Terrorists, he supported Libya, and he supported an expanded US role in the Syrian Civil War. He voted in favor of an Iraq War twice, by voting for the the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 and a resolution which stated "Congress reaffirms that it should be the policy of the United States to support efforts to remove the regime headed by Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq and to promote the emergence of a democratic  government to replace that regime." He is not by any stretch anti-war. He was against one specific war at one specific time. He was in favor of that war before, and of other wars after.
6. It has been solidly shown that Russia interfered in the United States election. I know you don't like that. It is still true.
7. Bernie Sanders overwhelmingly lost the black vote in the primary election. Bernie Sanders sponsored, lead, and personally profited from an attempt to dump low-level nuclear waste on a poor hispanic community. He is not a white savior, and he will not win minorities by anything like record-breaking margins.
8. There are swing states that are outside the rust belt. There are swing voters who aren't white working class.

In conclusion, every major point in your post is dreadfully wrong. Trump is unpopular, ineffective, and losing in polling to every democratic candidate. Barack Obama is popular and an excellent person for Democrats to tie themselves too. Social issues are the winning ones for Democrats. They have towering majorities on their side for these fights. Legal marijuana, abortion on demand, background checks and gay marriage are all exceptionally popular, in district after district and state after state. Economic leftism, meanwhile, is of middling popularity. Finally, Bernie Sanders is a scandal ridden hypocrite who is far too old for the Oval Office and the only reason Democrats would select him is if they wanted to make gains in 2022 under President Trump. He is the only major Democratic candidate who might botch this, and even then I wouldn't be sure.

Now, I'd like to talk about why you're doing this. You're investing an absurd amount of time and effort to be a blatant republican hack under the guise of a Sanders supporter. You have a willful disregard for anything resembling objective reality. Why? What makes you want to waste your time on bullsh**tting everyone around you? You've invested a tremendous amount of time in making predictions that are completely unrelated to objective reality. Why?
It’s obvious your a true believer in the extremely successful Obama-Clinton strategy, that has left Democrats with no House, no Senate, no Presidency, and record lows in Governorships and state legislatures. If Democrats continue to talk about out of control Social Progressivsm (I support Abortion and Gay Marriage, but #metoo hysteria and Transgender bathrooms are a bridge to far for me), Russophobia, and Economic Centrism (Obamacare was s**ty legislation that jacked up Health insurance prices on consumers and made Health Insurance company’s a fortune, the only way to fix healthcare is Single-Payer), they will never win the House, Senate, or Presidency, for at least a decade. Also, how dare you say Bernie Sanders is a “scandal-ridden hypocrite”, if you want one of those then I will guide you no further then Donald Trump, Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, Paul Ryan, Mich Mcconell, Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi, or any of the other two-faced liars that have dominated American politics since Reagan won his Klan-appeasing campaign in 1980. Bernie Sanders is the most honest elected official in American politics today, and I find it so amusing that you are citing opposition research from the most poorly-run presidential campaign in modern American history (the Hillary Clinton Campaign), in saying Bernie Sanders “dumped toxic waste on Mexicans”. Finally, if the Democrats continue down this horrifying pathway you want them to stay on, I hope they never win another damn election, because their will be no difference between them and the Republicans except on a couple dumb Social issues (both parties will support turning America into a third world country where Rich people and Multinational Corporations Control all wealth, while everyone else is living on the street, in slums, or in prison, and meanwhile the US military will be bombing innocent civilians in the Middle East to protect Zionist Isreal and Wahhabi Saudi Arabia).

1. Use Spellcheck. Seriously.
2. Downballot losses are common during pretty much every presidency. It was exacerbated during the Obama presidency because the south finally became solidly republican downballot and because Republicans, once in power, gerrymandered maps to stay there.
3. There is something here you are not understanding. You may have far-left economic views. You may not be a big social liberal. But that doesn't mean that that policy mix is necessarily popular. Going on a rant about how you think Single-payer is great and transgender people being able to use bathrooms isn't won't change objective reality. One of those issues has popular majorities in support. One does not.
4. Bernie Sanders pushed for low-level nuclear waste to be dumped on a poor hispanic town, and refused to support an amendment giving them any legal recourse. He then got his wife on the board for this, despite this being a texas dump and both of them living in Vermont. They then profited off of her salary for this for nearly two decades.
5. Bernie Sanders called the F-35 program wasteful, but then supported it when it seemed like it would help his state.
6. Sanders voted for the 1994 crime bill then tried hit Clinton for supporting it.
7. Bernie Sanders wrote an essay where he said women want to be raped. In other essays, he stated that children should run around naked and touch each other's genitals, and that cancer is caused by stress from women not putting out. He also voted against the Amber Alert and against criminalizing child pornography.
8. Sanders attended a Nicaraguan anti-America rally during which the crowds chanted “Here, there, everywhere the Yankee will die.” He is on record declaring this demonstration patriotic. Sanders proclaimed that "Breadlines are a good thing". Sanders praised Castro and Nicaragua extensively in a TV interview. Sanders honeymooned in the USSR. It wasn’t his actual honeymoon, but an immediate trip after he was married because he had meetings as mayor in Burlington’s sister city, Yaroslavl. Would this distinction matter? Probably not. Sanders hung a Soviet flag in his office in Burlington in honor of this sister city arrangement. Would it be painted as tacitly endorsing the commies? Probably.
Sanders participated in an interview in which he says “Capitalism as an economic system has to be radically altered and changed” and “Democracy means public ownership of the major means of production, it means decentralization, it means involving people in their work. Rather than having bosses and workers it means having democratic control over the factories and shops to as great a degree as you can.” Sanders says that he has his own feelings about what causes cancer. Sanders stated that he “doesn’t believe in charities.” Sanders states that he was excited about the revolution in Cuba because he felt it was right that the poor people were standing up to the "ugly rich people."

Sanders is a politician who has a history of dirty dealings, especially around his wife. He also has a past filled with ridiculous, obviously unpopular statements.

9. I know you don't like the fact that social issues are more popular than economic issues. I know you don't like the fact that Sanders is unpopular. Too bad. It is still true.
I’m sick of constantly hearing about his “sex essays” from the 1970s, when almost everyone was writing sex essays in the 1960s and 1970s, (one of my favorite books, “One flew over the cuckoos nest”, was written in that time period and had lots of weird sex stuff in it). And the rest of your argument is mainly a bunch of washed-up Clinton campaign oppo research (I see you keep regurgitating the “dumbed toxic waste on Mexicans” talking point), and what’s wrong with the fact he may have been a Communist in the 1980s, it’s obvious he isn’t now, because a real “Communist” wouldn’t serve as a congressman and senator. Finally, Their is a lot of polling that disproves your view that Far-Left Social policies are more popular then Far-Left economic policies, for example I’ve seen polling that around 10 times as many Americans are Economically Left-wing and Socialy Right-wing, then Economicaly Right-wing and Socialy Left-wing (this last combination seems to be you’re ideology).

Let me summarize your post.
1. Spelling errors.
2. If anyone has ever brought up this flaw of Sanders, then it's washed up oppo research.
3. Waaaaa! Why doesn't anyone agree with me? Waaaaa! Why are policies I support unpopular? Waaaaa!

King Lear writes with one hand looking at the populist quadrant of the political compass, but you're writing with one hand looking at the libertarian quadrant of the political compass. The Democratic party is a liberal party, not fiscally or socially conservative.
For the record, I’m not “Socially Conservative”, I am 100% Pro-Choice and I support Gay Marriage, which are views that would have had me branded “Far-Left” on social issues just 10 years ago. However, I will admit that I don’t understand this “Transgender” stuff (A biological Male turning themselves into a Female and vice-versa doesn’t make sense to me), and I don’t think men should lose their jobs and be banished from society just because a women accuses them of misconduct 30 years ago that obviously wasn’t severe enough to report to the cops. Finally, I believe that Democratic campaigns should devote most of their energy to promoting Left-wing economic policies (Single-Payer, Free College, and a Living Wage), instead of Left-wing Social policies I do support (Legal Abortion and Gay Marriage) and those I don’t (Transgenderism and #metoo), because something many Democrats on this website don’t understand is that the voters Democrats need to turnout to win elections (Low-income Blacks and Hispanics), will only turnout if they can get Left-wing Economic polices that will keep them out of extreme poverty, and the last issues they want to hear about are Transgender bathrooms and the #metoo movement.

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« Reply #1360 on: March 30, 2018, 03:07:05 PM »


Governor Jay Inslee / Senator Tammy Baldwin (D)
President Michael Pence / Secretary Nikki Haley (R)
Lieutenant Governor Spencer J. Cox / Former Congressman Carlos Curbelo (I)

Wanted to do a map where Democrats are blue and Republicans are red for once. Please forgive any eye bleeding that I may have caused by switching the party colors.

Also I reposted this for the purpose of breaking up the argument occurring in the *MAPS* thread and hopefully cause it to end.
Pence even loses his home state? savage!

Gov-elect Buttigieg had coattails!
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« Reply #1361 on: March 30, 2018, 03:21:41 PM »

Obama strategy is a "failure"? lol.

Presidential elections won by Obama: 2
Presidential elections won by Bernie Sanders: 0

to be fair under obama we lost nearly 1000 seats in state legislatures
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« Reply #1362 on: March 30, 2018, 03:32:52 PM »


Go away both of you. This is the map thread.
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« Reply #1363 on: March 30, 2018, 03:32:58 PM »

Come on guys, this is a thread for maps. please stop arguing and derailing it.


Anyway, here's a map:




1964

John F. Kennedy/Lyndon B. Johnson (D) 55% popular vote, 409 electoral votes
Nelson Rockefeller/William Scranton (R) 42% popular vote, 100 electoral votes
Ross Barnett/Strom Thurmond (SR) 2.8% popular vote, 24 electoral votes
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« Reply #1364 on: March 30, 2018, 05:20:41 PM »

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« Reply #1365 on: March 30, 2018, 05:33:16 PM »

1980



After a relatively unpopular second Ford term, Vice President Bob Dole is defeated.

Frank Church (D-ID)/Dale Bumpers (D-AR): 417
Bob Dole (R-KS)/Howard Baker (R-TN): 121
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« Reply #1366 on: March 30, 2018, 06:24:14 PM »

I read that as "Battle of the Hookers".
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« Reply #1367 on: March 31, 2018, 01:40:11 AM »

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« Reply #1368 on: March 31, 2018, 09:35:49 AM »

Back on topic, here's this thing


This is the electoral college of the United States after a census a few centuries from now. As you can see, a few things have changed.
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« Reply #1369 on: March 31, 2018, 09:49:27 AM »

Back on topic, here's this thing


This is the electoral college of the United States after a census a few centuries from now. As you can see, a few things have changed.

Interesting. Dat Alaska. Any party leanings?
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« Reply #1370 on: March 31, 2018, 09:50:57 AM »

I see my past as a coastal elitist has caught up with me. Tongue
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« Reply #1371 on: March 31, 2018, 07:02:28 PM »
« Edited: March 31, 2018, 07:06:09 PM by emcee0 »

The John Glenn Revolution
1980

Senator John Glenn D-Ohio/ Governor Bob Graham D- Florida 498 Electoral Votes 56% Popular Vote
President Gerald R. Ford R- Michigan/ Vice President Bob Dole R- Kansas 40 Electoral Votes 40 % Popular Vote
1984

President John Glenn D-Ohio/ Vice President Bob Graham D-Florida 529 Electoral Votes 60% Popular Vote
Former Vice President Bob Dole R- Kansas/ Senator Jesse Helms R- North Carolina 9 Electoral Votes 37% Popular Vote
1988

Vice President Bob Graham D-Florida/ Senator Tom Harkin D-Iowa 425 Electoral Votes 55% Popular Vote
Senator Dan Quayle R-Indiana/ Columnist Pat Buchanan R-Virginia 113 Electoral Votes
1992

President Bob Graham D- Florida/ Vice President Tom Harkin D- Iowa 345 Electoral Votes 53% Popular Vote
Governor Lamar Alexander R- Tennesee/ Congressman Dick Cheney R- Wyoming 193 Electoral Votes 47% Popular Vote
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« Reply #1372 on: March 31, 2018, 07:37:10 PM »
« Edited: March 31, 2018, 08:22:33 PM by emcee0 »

McCain 1996
1996

Senator John McCain R- Arizona/ Senator Richard Lugar R- Indiana 297 Electoral Votes 51% Popular Vote
Senator Al Gore D- Tennesee/ Senator John Edwards D- Connecticut 241 Electoral Votes 47% Popular Vote
McCainslide 2000

President John McCain R- Arizona/ Vice President Richard Lugar R-Indiana 400 Electoral Votes 54% Popular Vote
Governor Howard Dean D- Vermont/ Congressman Dennis Kucinich D- Ohio 138 Electoral Votes 44% Popular Vote
Kerry '04

Senator John Kerry D- Massachusetts/Russ Feingold D- Wisconsin 320 Electoral Votes 51% Popular Vote
Governor George W. Bush R-Texas/ Sam Brownback R-Kansas 318 Electoral Votes 48% Popular Vote
Perry Wins in '08

Governor Rick Perry R- Texas/ Governor Mike Huckabee R- Arkansas 317 Electoral Votes 50% Popular Vote
President John Kerry D- Massachusetts/ Vice Presdient Russ Feingold D- Wisconsin 47% Popular Vote

History Made in '08

Senator Barack Obama D- Illinois/ Senator Joe Biden D- Delaware 402 Electoral Votes 54% Popular Vote
President Rick Perry R- Texas/ Vice President Mike Huckabee R- Arkansas 136 Electoral Votes 45% Popular Vote
Forward! in 2016


President Barack Obama D- Illinois/ Vice President Joe Biden D- Delaware 54% Popular Vote
Senator Ted Cruz R- Texas/ Senator Mike Lee R- Utah 179 Electoral Votes 43% Popular Vote
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« Reply #1373 on: March 31, 2018, 08:11:55 PM »
« Edited: March 31, 2018, 09:58:59 PM by L.D. Smith, Aggie! It's Real Expenses Again »

Uniform Shift 1: '12-'16



Hillary Clinton/Elizabeth Warren: 272 EV, 49% pv
Donald Trump/Chris Christie: 266 EV, 47% pv

Uniform Shift 2: '08-'12



Obama/Biden: 285 EV, 50% pv
Romney/Ryan: 253 EV, 46% pv

Uniform Shift 3: '04-'08



Obama/Biden: 405 EV, 53% pv
McCain/Lieberman: 133 EV, 46% pv

Uniform Shift 4: 2000-2004



Bush/Cheney: 303 EV, 50% pv
Kerry/Dean: 235 EV, 48.5% pv
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« Reply #1374 on: April 01, 2018, 11:23:21 AM »



Candidates win the state where the party convention is held. Clinton wins.



Obama still wins, and FL is seen as tilt R later.



The resulting domino effect from a forced GOP flip in MN knocks down the midwest and is just powerful enough for FL and the election to go to McCain



2004 is a huge GOP landslide bigger than '80 or '88. Only a handful of liberal doves back the Democrats.



A forced flip of PA is enough to crack the upper midwest. Shockwaves from California do flip NV as Hispanics are stronger for Dems, but FL, while very close, "remains" GOP.



A forced flip of CA give the GOP a win as they break the hearts of Democrats when election results return from west of the MS.
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