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« Reply #1400 on: April 07, 2018, 07:11:27 AM »

Moving on to the 1988 race. 

After securing a term in their own rights, President George HW Bush (R-TX) and VP Howard Baker (R-TN) decide to run for re-election.  They win the GOP nomination unopposed. 

At the Democratic National Convention, party members select Congressman Dick Gephardt (D-MO) as their standard-bearer.  Needing some help in key western states, Gephardt chooses Governor Bruce Babbitt (D-AZ) as his running mate.  Can they take the White House from Bush & Baker?

To wit:



Gephardt/Babbitt: 294 EVs
Bush/Baker: 244 EVs

Bush and Baker pick up the South, as well as some key votes in the Midwest.  However, most of the Midwest go to Gephardt and Babbitt.  The West is the deciding factor; here, Democrats do much better than in 1984.  As such, the team of Gephardt and Babbitt are victorious; for the first time in eight years, there will be a Democrat in the White House. 

1992 still to come. 
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« Reply #1401 on: April 07, 2018, 09:37:13 AM »

Bush couldn't run in 1988 if he became President after Reagan's assassination anyway.
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« Reply #1402 on: April 07, 2018, 09:49:03 PM »



2016 results if Trump won 48.1 percent and Hillary 45.9 percent, so if it were the other way around

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2016 if Trump actually won an absolute majority of the popular vote. Like say 51 percent to 43 percent
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« Reply #1403 on: April 08, 2018, 12:15:04 AM »

Enjoying doing these! Now we come to 1992. 

The Democratic Party, having succeeded in winning the White House in 1988, looks for a repeat performance.  President Dick Gephardt (D-MO) and VP Bruce Babbitt (D-AZ) again pick up their party's nomination, and seek to win four more years in office. 

On the Republican side, and after a contentious primary, GOPers nominate Mr. Pat Buchanan (R-VA) to carry their banner.  Buchanan selects the outspoken Ambassador Alan Keyes (R-NY) as his running mate.  Republicans hope that this ticket can rebound from the 1988 loss, and take back the White House for them. 

Now this is where it gets interesting.  Mr. Ross Perot, a businessman from Texas, decides to throw his hat into the presidential ring.  As his running mate, Perot chooses Admiral James Stockdale (I-IL).  The Perot/Stockdale team gives voters a third choice on their ballots; can they do the unthinkable, and win the election?

(The colors somehow got screwed up a bit, but....)

To wit:



President Dick Gephardt/VP Bruce Babbitt: 367 EVs
Mr. Pat Buchanan/Amb. Alan Keyes: 148 EVs
Mr. Ross Perot/Admiral James Stockdale: 23 EVs

The Independent ticket of Perot and Stockdale is strongest in the Midwest, where they take two states.  The unlikely challengers also pick up the (semi-independent) state of New Hampshire, as well as the state of Idaho. 

Incumbents Gephardt and Babbitt do very well in the East, in addition to the Midwest.  Although Buchanan and Keyes pick up some key votes in the South, as well as in the Upper Midwest, they never really challenge the Democrats.  As such, the Democratic team of Gephardt and Babbitt cruise to re-election, and four more years in the White House. 

Still to come: 1996!
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« Reply #1404 on: April 08, 2018, 07:41:52 AM »

1968 Republican National Convention Balloting

Blue - Former Vice President Richard Milhous Nixon of New York
Green - Governor Nelson Aldrich Rockefeller of New York
Red - Governor Ronald Wilson Reagan of California
Orange - Governor George Wilken Romney of Michigan
Yellow - Favorite Sons: Governor Winthrop Rockefeller of Arkansas, Senator Hiram Fong of Hawaii, Senator Frank Carlson of Kansas, Senator Clifford Case of New Jersey, Governor James Rhodes of Ohio
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« Reply #1405 on: April 08, 2018, 12:01:12 PM »

A scenario where Bill Clinton doesn't get 270 electoral votes, so the vote goes to the House.

For President, 1992

Gov. William J. Clinton (D-AR) - 258
Pres. George H.W. Bush (R-TX) - 183
H. Ross Perot (I-TX) - 97

Please excuse me if this map is crap. This scenario is very unlikely to happen, as Ross Perot was lucky to even get 18.9% of the popular vote in real life as a 3rd party candidate, but whatever.
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« Reply #1406 on: April 08, 2018, 03:06:41 PM »

A scenario where Bill Clinton doesn't get 270 electoral votes, so the vote goes to the House.

For President, 1992

Gov. William J. Clinton (D-AR) - 258
Pres. George H.W. Bush (R-TX) - 183
H. Ross Perot (I-TX) - 97

Please excuse me if this map is crap. This scenario is very unlikely to happen, as Ross Perot was lucky to even get 18.9% of the popular vote in real life as a 3rd party candidate, but whatever.
Iowa and California going for Perot seems pretty random.
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« Reply #1407 on: April 08, 2018, 06:36:38 PM »



2016 results if Drumpf won 48.1 percent and Hillary 45.9 percent, so if it were the other way around

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2016 if Drumpf actually won an absolute majority of the popular vote. Like say 51 percent to 43 percent

It's interesting how the top map might very well, realistically, be his absolute ceiling. It just proves further how much of an advantage that Republicans have in the electoral college. A Democrat probably needs a plurality of at least 3.5% to win at all.
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« Reply #1408 on: April 08, 2018, 07:12:34 PM »

No One's Quick Like Gaston: Coming Soon (Maybe)


Decision '96
Governor Gaston Caperton (D-WV)/Sen. Bob Kerrey (D-NE): 403 EVs
Vice President Newt Gingrich (R-GA)/Gov. George Voinovich (R-OH): 135 EVs
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« Reply #1409 on: April 08, 2018, 09:29:38 PM »
« Edited: April 08, 2018, 09:32:59 PM by cookiedamage »


Carla Simpson (IN)/John Mallard (WV) - 321 EVs

Harry Johnston (NC)/Huey McVille (NJ) - 161 EVs

Steph Chen (NV)/Joanna Allison (AZ) - 56 EVs

The Parties

Whigs represent classical liberals, industrialists, burgeoning capitalists, and economic modernizers. They originate from the upper middle classes and merchant castes and find their strongest support in cities and suburbs. They believe a free market economy boosts national strength and social unity and see feudalism as ancient and inefficient.

Feudalists represent conservatives, aristocracy, landed gentry, and the wealthy old money of society. They believe in serfdom and strict class systems. They believe a strict caste-based way of life leads to social harmony and godliness. Very religious and socially conservative. They believe in a manorial economy and find their biggest support in the plantation south.

Pastoralists represent freemen, independent farmers, herders, steppe people, and Rocky mountain people. They believe in individualism and self-sufficiency and see feudalism and capitalism as predatory economic models that feast upon the toils of working people and serfs. Strongest in the mountain west.

Closest states

Virginia: 44.56% vs. 44.06%

Missouri: 42.92% vs. 42.00%

Arizona: 40.32% vs. 39.31%
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« Reply #1410 on: April 08, 2018, 10:10:13 PM »

2008: The Start of a New Political Era



Sen. Joe Lieberman/Fmr. House Min. Ldr. Dick Gephardt: 202 Electoral Votes, 30.0%
Gov. Sarah Palin/Rep. Hal Rogers. 210 Electoral Votes, 29.8%
Sen. Russ Feingold/Sen. Bernie Sanders:  90 Electoral Votes*, 25.6%
Mayor Michael Bloomberg/Sen. Chuck Hagel: 36 Electoral Vites, 14.3%


*Nebraska and it’s 1st Congressional District went to Bloomberg/Hagel (same with Maine and it’s first), also the Feingold/Sanders ticket won Vermont with 60.7% of the vote

The House selects Michael Bloomberg as President, the Senate selects Hal Rogers as VP
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« Reply #1411 on: April 09, 2018, 03:50:41 AM »

Another map.  This time, we come to the 1996 election. 

Having been elected to two terms in office, incumbent President Dick Gephardt (D-MO) is ineligible to run again.  At the party convention, Democrats select VP Bruce Babbitt (D-AZ) to head their ticket; he subsequently chooses Senator Bob Kerrey (D-NE) as his running mate. 

On the other side of the aisle, Republicans are looking to bounce back from a historic defeat.  To accomplish this, the GOP goes with a relative unknown in Mr. Steve Forbes, a businessman from New York.  Forbes, a proponent of the "flat tax", selects Senator Richard Lugar (R-IN) to be the Republican Party's nominee for VP.  Can the Forbes/Lugar ticket wrest control of the White House away from the Democrats?

To wit:



VP Bruce Babbitt/Senator Bob Kerrey: 287 EVs
Mr. Steve Forbes/Senator Richard Lugar: 251 EVs

In a result that is much closer than the 1992 election, Forbes and Lugar take a wide swath of the West; the South goes to the GOP ticket as well.  However, larger states such as California go into the column of Democrats Babbitt and Kerrey.  The two Republicans close the gap somewhat by taking Florida (with twenty-five electoral votes), but in the end, it is not enough.  As such, Democrats retain the White House with a small mandate, and will remain in power until at least the turn of the century. 
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« Reply #1412 on: April 09, 2018, 06:45:54 PM »

2020: Trump doesn't seek reelection, opts to run Republican grassroots via New York and Mar-a-lago, Fla., Ryan-Pence wins election


Former House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-WI)/Vice President Mike Pence (R-IN)-333 EV/50.3%
Senator Kamala Harris (D-CA)/Montana Governor Steve Bullock (D-MT)-205 EV/48.5%
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« Reply #1413 on: April 09, 2018, 09:59:11 PM »

2020: Trump doesn't seek reelection, opts to run Republican grassroots via New York and Mar-a-lago, Fla., Ryan-Pence wins election


Former House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-WI)/Vice President Mike Pence (R-IN)-333 EV/50.3%
Senator Kamala Harris (D-CA)/Montana Governor Steve Bullock (D-MT)-205 EV/48.5%

Harris/Bullock is a great ticket that is much more powerful than Ryan/Pence. Trump's base is not a fan of Ryan's and I don't see Ryan having an easy time with Michigan, Minnesota, or Pennsylvania.
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« Reply #1414 on: April 10, 2018, 10:43:24 AM »

My #take on the above contest


Harris/Bullock
Ryan/Pence
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« Reply #1415 on: April 10, 2018, 10:45:23 AM »

My #take on the above contest


Harris/Bullock
Ryan/Pence
Montana won't flip before Georgia even with Bullock on the bottom of the ticket.
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« Reply #1416 on: April 11, 2018, 12:09:52 PM »

Power Vaccuum: The 2028 Republican Primaries


Sen. Ben Sasse of Nebraska (25 contests won)
Gov. Carlos Curbelo of Florida (12 contests won)
Sen. Tom Cotton of Arkansas (8 contests won)
Sen. Justin Amash of Michigan (6 contests won)
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« Reply #1417 on: April 11, 2018, 12:42:01 PM »

that's really cool! ^
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« Reply #1418 on: April 11, 2018, 02:20:04 PM »


Thanks fam, I'm considering writing a timeline for it
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« Reply #1419 on: April 11, 2018, 02:33:42 PM »
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« Reply #1420 on: April 11, 2018, 04:45:22 PM »

Bit of a project I've been working on

Wiki Infobox (not sure if it goes here, but oh well Smiley ) :




The map itself:

The scenario is a world where the Americas are colonized by many more nations, and thus falls into a lot of sectarian and regional wars between colonial states. This hinders the democratic and social progress in the West, with a lot of anti-reformist and arch-conservative movements being prevalent.

Hudsonia is relatively prosperous, but has rampant electoral corruption. It's a noble republic, with many seats being inherited, as well as oddly populated (ranging from an unpopulated Central Park district to working class districts populated near 200,000 – though the median population in a district is about 40,000). Political machines, voter intimidation, bribery, and electoral fraud are all rampant, as well as an instituted non-secret ballot. The three largest parties are led by the landed class.

On a political compass, the parties are as follows. Authoritarian infers a pro-nobility and anti-democracy stance; libertarian refers to pro-democratization.


All in all, a very dreary scenario. I might make more of these countries, if there is any interest.
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« Reply #1421 on: April 11, 2018, 05:12:58 PM »

There's an election inbox thread somewhere in the recent pages of this board! @Hcp
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« Reply #1422 on: April 11, 2018, 07:08:34 PM »

Power Vaccuum: The 2028 Republican Primaries


Sen. Ben Sasse of Nebraska (25 contests won)
Gov. Carlos Curbelo of Florida (12 contests won)
Sen. Tom Cotton of Arkansas (8 contests won)
Sen. Justin Amash of Michigan (6 contests won)

Senator Justin Amash? I hope we're spared of that in real life.
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« Reply #1423 on: April 11, 2018, 09:33:32 PM »



8:30 calls of the gubernatorial races of 2018.
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« Reply #1424 on: April 11, 2018, 11:29:09 PM »

2016


Gov. Dan Farber (R-NH)/Sen. Melissa Sumner (R-ND) - 532 EVs - 43%

Vice Pres. Max Carter (D-TX)/Fmr. Sen. Maria Bosch (D-NY) - 3 EVs - 34%

Sen. Matt Vanderson (Democratic Labor-IL)/Sen. John Maher (DL-NV) - 3 EVs - 23%

2020


Sen. Stella Connally (D-NY)/Fmr. Sec. Josh Marquez (D-NC) - 533 EVs - 49%

Ret. Gen. Tom Easton (American-LA)/Ms. Amy DiRomeo (A-CT) - 5 EVs - 26%

Pres. Dan Farber (R-NH)/Vice Pres. Melissa Sumner (R-ND) - 0 EVs - 25%

2024 Election


Pres. Stella Connally (D-NY)/Vice Pres. Josh Marquez (D-NC) - 477 EVs - 48%

Mr. Gerry Douglas (A-KY)/Mr. Nate Goussier (A-WV) - 60 EVs - 35%

Fmr. Sen. Alice McMurrow (R-NE)/Fmr. Sec. John Goodwin - 1 EV - 17%

2028


Vice Pres. Josh Marquez (D-NC)/Sen. Toni Sheridan (D-NM) - 399 EVs - 52%

Sen. Patrick Hill (A-TX)/Sen. Trish Stevensen (A-MI) - 139 EVs - 43%

Fmr. Gov. Harrison Roland (R-OR)/Rep. Cindy Morris (R-FL) - 0 EVs - 5%
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