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Question: Is sodomy sinful?
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No
 
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Not a Christian
 
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« on: December 01, 2020, 12:46:12 PM »

As in the specific acts that would fall under the definition of "sodomy", regardless of the sex of the participants.
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« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2020, 04:18:48 PM »

the specific acts that would fall under the definition of "sodomy",

Well, the definition of those acts hasn't been historically constant, has it? About all that's been consistent about the definition of sodomy is that it's always a category of sex acts and usually includes anal sex.

It probably has changed over time, but in the current year the Catholic Church, of which you are a member, regards homosexual sex as sinful and calls on gay people to live a chaste life (I couldn't find anything on sodomy itself): https://www.catholic.com/tract/homosexuality. By the way, I wonder if they would make an exception for intercrural sex, the "gay male missionary position" of Ancient Greece.

Yes, obviously. Sodomy is forbidden in the Bible because it disturbs the digestive and excretioniary system, which is the source of one's feeling of being rooted in reality. When this system (referred to as the root chakra in Hinduism) is disturbed (whether because of indigestion or other means), one is much more open to manipulation by malicious spiritual and worldly forces. Thus homosexual and heterosexual sodomy are normalized by Hollywood and pornography, both of which exist primarily to manipulate the psyche of the masses.

All of this must be understood by both sides of the heteronormativity debate.

I don't know. I've heard that it can relieve constipation.

(I know this isn't serious.)

As someone with irritable syndrome with constipation, maybe I should consider it then Tongue.
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« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2020, 03:08:28 PM »
« Edited: December 02, 2020, 03:12:45 PM by HenryWallaceVP »

I mean tcumsa's dirge aside, this is a ridiculous poll and flat out offensive to people to whom it forms part of their own sex life, that it even gets asked as a semi serious question. I'm admittedly in a pissy mood for other reasons today but I'm sick of these sorts of judgement polls on this board in particular.

Well, the reason it's a semi-serious question is because religious leaders have made it so. Complain to them, not me. I don't think it should be an issue either, but sadly I'm not able to control those things. Given that, I don't see what's wrong with polling Atlas on a topic like this that has often proved divisive among Christians.

I'm not going to vote in this ridiculous poll. I am certainly glad that I don't call myself "Christian".
It seems like half of Christians believe, for whatever reason, that this behavior is "sinful".
The anti-gay sentiment at this site is rather insane, of course.

So, in the minds of some so called "Christians", this is sinful, but only if your a "Christian". The question of the poll strongly implies this obviously. So, if you like this activity it is strongly recommended that you don't be a Christian.

Meanwhile Trump, popular among these kinds of "Christians" can kill, lie, cheat, steal and have more normal intimacy with a porn star and cover it up, and that's all right with them.

edit: and of course, in the minds of some Christians, sex itself is "original sin". (that was the message of the movie, "Inherit the Wind") So, if "Christians" want to be consistent they would stop having children, which would do wonders for the overpopulation problem.

Wow

The OP explicitly states "regardless of the sex of participants".

No one said that this is sinful only if you are a Christian.
The thread title says "Christians only" because the question is directed only to Christians, not because it is implied that this behaviour is sinful only when committed by Christians.

There is no proof that the people who voted Yes like Trump? Also when did Trump kill?

Inherit The Wind is a film that uses a fictionalized version of the Scopes Monkey Trial as a metaphor to condemn McCarthyism. What does it have to do with sex? And I don't see Christians saying that procreative sex is bad or sinful.

To be fair, "actually all sex is kinda bad" is an attested, and in some eras has been a widespread, position in Christian moral theology. It's just not currently prevalent in any otherwise orthodox denomination.


I'm pretty sure the only people who taught that sex was evil were heretics who were refuted by the Church

RIP Albigensianism. At least my CK2 Catharist Kingdom of Sardinia and Corsica will live on in my heart.
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« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2020, 03:37:06 PM »
« Edited: December 02, 2020, 03:40:15 PM by HenryWallaceVP »

I mean tcumsa's dirge aside, this is a ridiculous poll and flat out offensive to people to whom it forms part of their own sex life, that it even gets asked as a semi serious question. I'm admittedly in a pissy mood for other reasons today but I'm sick of these sorts of judgement polls on this board in particular.

Well, the reason it's a semi-serious question is because religious leaders have made it so. Complain to them, not me. I don't think it should be an issue either, but sadly I'm not able to control those things. Given that, I don't see what's wrong with polling Atlas on a topic like this that has often proved divisive among Christians.

Because you sound like your intention is to ignite flames, like a guy who brings up some painful past episode at a dinner with friends just to see them have a row.

Well any sort of topic started on a political forum might be expected to ignite a debate, especially one that involves religion and strongly-held personal beliefs. But the fact is there hasn't even been much in this thread; there seems to be a general agreement among those who have posted in it. And I wouldn't say it's a past episode either; despite gay marriage being legalized 5 years ago many denominations like the Catholics and lots of evangelicals remain opposed to homosexuality. But if people would prefer that I delete the thread I'll gladly do so.

I mean tcumsa's dirge aside, this is a ridiculous poll and flat out offensive to people to whom it forms part of their own sex life, that it even gets asked as a semi serious question. I'm admittedly in a pissy mood for other reasons today but I'm sick of these sorts of judgement polls on this board in particular.

Well, the reason it's a semi-serious question is because religious leaders have made it so. Complain to them, not me. I don't think it should be an issue either, but sadly I'm not able to control those things. Given that, I don't see what's wrong with polling Atlas on a topic like this that has often proved divisive among Christians.

Because you sound like your intention is to ignite flames, like a guy who brings up some painful past episode at a dinner with friends just to see them have a row.
Perhaps that is why the average poster comes to this site (whether they are willing to admit it or not).


I mean it is a politics-related Internet forum, so what should you expect but disagreements? (though I haven't seen anyone unironically argue for Yes in the thread despite the poll results). That said I didn't expect to anger people by making this thread so I'm sorry if I did.
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« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2020, 04:06:28 PM »

The reason I used "sodomy" instead of homosexuality is because I wanted to be clear that I was referring to the acts themselves rather than sexual orientations. Because the argument I often see religious people make is that it is the acts that are sinful, but merely being attracted to one sex or the other isn't. I also thought it would allow for a more historical discussion of the concept and Christian views on it, as the idea of homosexuality is much more recent but the story of Sodom and Gomorrah goes back to the Bible itself.

But all that said, yes, I was aware that the word has often been used in hateful ways but I used it anyway because I thought it would better communicate what I was trying to ask about. It was a mistake on my part and I'm sorry if anyone was hurt by it, as it was not my intention.
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