Voter suppresion/"stealing the election" megathread

[GeorgiaModerate]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1336733602902659075
Because they fell for the red mirage and didn't do the math.

So was Roy Moore.

[Non Swing Voter]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1336733602902659075

Because they fell for the red mirage and didn't do the math.

Democrats were the odds on favorites to take the senate.  Maybe Mitch McConnell should give up his seat until the issue can be investigated fully.

[Middle-aged Europe]

Sounds like Trump’s ace legal team will be bringing some ironclad arguments to the #SupremeCourt
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1336691981981016066?s=21

Hilarous that both sentences in Trump's tweet happen to be incorrect.

Does it mean it gets double-flagged by Twitter?

[Hammy]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1336733602902659075

Because they fell for the red mirage and didn't do the math.

I am beginning to suspect Trump had his people bet money to manipulate the betting markets so he could use them to claim he won. This tweet almost feels like an admission to that.

[GeorgiaModerate]

https://twitter.com/KevinMKruse/status/1336771314481303552

[GeorgiaModerate]

https://twitter.com/rickhasen/status/1336795297456869377

Ban the sock, mods.

[GeorgiaModerate]

https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1336823401030225921

[emailking]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1336844470994821126
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1336847458836631553

[JA]

Trump & Co. have lost nearly every notable court case they've pursued and are highly unlikely to have any success with this attempted coup using the courts. They must know this. So, that begs the question, if they aren't doing this for their stated intention, since they know it's futile, then what ulterior motive may be underlying all of this nonsense? I have some thoughts of my own, but I'm curious what others think.

[Non Swing Voter]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1336844470994821126
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1336847458836631553

This is getting hilarious.

[GeorgiaModerate]

https://mobile.twitter.com/JohnJHarwood/status/1336857879345770497

[Obama-Biden Democrat]

https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1336823401030225921

You need a 4 year degree , you have to graduate law school and pass the bar. Even if you are a far right wing Federalist Society hack, it's going to be impossible to believe these insane conspiracy theories. The MAGA cult is so strung out and insane, even their hand picked judges are laughing them out of court.

These lawyers need to be cited for contempt of court and debarred.

[jimrtex]

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What is wrong with checking signatures?

The signatures were checked at the time the ballots were processed.

The only thing the Georgia settlement changed was 1) requiring multiple election officials to agree that a signature mismatch existed before rejecting a ballot, and 2) requiring election officials to more promptly notify voters of a signature mismatch to give the voter a chance to resolve the issue.

Why not check them again to give assurance that everything was done correctly.

If voting was done in person on paper ballots (one per office), after voters showed ID, and were counted in the precinct on election night, we would have known on November 3 who was elected.

[Devils30]

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What is wrong with checking signatures?

The signatures were checked at the time the ballots were processed.

The only thing the Georgia settlement changed was 1) requiring multiple election officials to agree that a signature mismatch existed before rejecting a ballot, and 2) requiring election officials to more promptly notify voters of a signature mismatch to give the voter a chance to resolve the issue.

Why not check them again to give assurance that everything was done correctly.

If voting was done in person on paper ballots (one per office), after voters showed ID, and were counted in the precinct on election night, we would have known on November 3 who was elected.

Give it a rest, your thugs are just attempting any last way to steal an election they did not win. Sore f**ing losers!

[SteveRogers]

Why not check them again to give assurance that everything was done correctly.

Because 1) you can’t. As already discussed, the ballots are separated from the envelopes at this point, and 2) if you give a conspiracy theorist a cookie, they’ll want a glass of milk.

If voting was done in person on paper ballots (one per office), after voters showed ID, and were counted in the precinct on election night, we would have known on November 3 who was elected.

Why would knowing the result on November 3rd be more important than ensuring voting was widely accessible during a pandemic?

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1336862836501458944

[jimrtex]

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What is wrong with checking signatures?

The signatures were checked at the time the ballots were processed.

The only thing the Georgia settlement changed was 1) requiring multiple election officials to agree that a signature mismatch existed before rejecting a ballot, and 2) requiring election officials to more promptly notify voters of a signature mismatch to give the voter a chance to resolve the issue.

Also, and I cannot stress this enough, the signatures were checked TWICE. Once a person registered to vote absentee, their signature was compared to the one on file (usually a drivers license) to serve as ID, and then again when the ballot envelope was received.

And, for the record, signature matching should probably be considered dubious if multiple people don't reject the match. Otherwise you'd get inter-coder reliability issues. What if Bob decides to be a real stickler on dotted i's but Jerry doesn't care... that creates due-process issues. If both Bob and Jerry have to reject it... that's a better system.

But they only double checked if the first one rejected it. If Lazy Larry rubber-stamped everything because he really did not like dealing with Bob or Jerry then the purpose is defeated.

[jimrtex]

I've said this before, but Democrats really should have been organizing large scale "Honor the Vote" protests. We only hear the MAGA voices and Trump insisting the election was stolen and it could easily reach (maybe already reached?) a point where it distorts public opinion. There needs to be a public reminder that Biden won the freaking election and that the will of the American people must be respected.

There were 600 people arrested in Minneapolis on election night when it looked like Trump would be re-elected.

[Devils30]

I've said this before, but Democrats really should have been organizing large scale "Honor the Vote" protests. We only hear the MAGA voices and Trump insisting the election was stolen and it could easily reach (maybe already reached?) a point where it distorts public opinion. There needs to be a public reminder that Biden won the freaking election and that the will of the American people must be respected.

There were 600 people arrested in Minneapolis on election night when it looked like Trump would be re-elected.

Where's the proof? You are a f***ing moron, and no, I am not apologizing. Just admit it, you want the guy who lost the election to be installed as the President like it is North Korea, Cuba or any of the countries you claim to oppose.

[Non Swing Voter]

I've said this before, but Democrats really should have been organizing large scale "Honor the Vote" protests. We only hear the MAGA voices and Trump insisting the election was stolen and it could easily reach (maybe already reached?) a point where it distorts public opinion. There needs to be a public reminder that Biden won the freaking election and that the will of the American people must be respected.

There were 600 people arrested in Minneapolis on election night when it looked like Trump would be re-elected.

! This claim about election night is disputed

[Coolface Sock #42069]

National Review has come out against the Texas lawsuit calling it “frivolous” and highly unlikely to go anywhere. If that’s true (and I’m assuming it is but too lazy to read the article because I just don’t care anymore), it blows my mind that this many attorneys general would go along with it.

[Horus]

National Review has come out against the Texas lawsuit calling it “frivolous” and highly unlikely to go anywhere. If that’s true (and I’m assuming it is but too lazy to read the article because I just don’t care anymore), it blows my mind that this many attorneys general would go along with it.

Attorney general is often the last step before a run for governor or senate. Stunts like this pump up the base.

[DINGO Joe]

National Review has come out against the Texas lawsuit calling it “frivolous” and highly unlikely to go anywhere. If that’s true (and I’m assuming it is but too lazy to read the article because I just don’t care anymore), it blows my mind that this many attorneys general would go along with it.

Because they consider it politically beneficial to lick Trump's balls

[jimrtex]

Why not check them again to give assurance that everything was done correctly.

Because 1) you can’t. As already discussed, the ballots are separated from the envelopes at this point, and 2) if you give a conspiracy theorist a cookie, they’ll want a glass of milk.

If voting was done in person on paper ballots (one per office), after voters showed ID, and were counted in the precinct on election night, we would have known on November 3 who was elected.

Why would knowing the result on November 3rd be more important than ensuring voting was widely accessible during a pandemic?

What you are saying is that there is now a pile of ballots where there was not a complete chain of custody from the time someone marked the ballot. We don't know whether anyone was influenced to vote.

In 2018, while I was voting, an elderly couple was voting, and the husband was assisting his wife (I think she had vision problems - I was listening while I was voting). The election judge was administering the oath to the husband. In Texas, an assistant can not make suggestions or guess how to vote ("You want Biden for President, right?"). But in this case, the assistance can at least be observed. The election judge was careful not to give the voting slip to the husband before his wife had finished voting. A voting slip has a code that is entered into a voting machine that ensures that voter is authorized to vote and the correct ballot style is presented. It is time limited, so the husband was not given his at the same time he was assisting.

What I am saying that is voting is in person, the process can be observed. Identity of voters could be verified. The ballot box would be fully in view throughout the day. Ballots would be counted by hand. The ballots would be placed in stacks and the stacks counted. The ballot count would be recorded and signed by all observers. The ballots would be secured and take to a central location in case a recount was necessary.

We would also know what the voters wanted on November 3, not in early October.

If there was a health risk of in-person voting, delay the election.

[jimrtex]

I've said this before, but Democrats really should have been organizing large scale "Honor the Vote" protests. We only hear the MAGA voices and Trump insisting the election was stolen and it could easily reach (maybe already reached?) a point where it distorts public opinion. There needs to be a public reminder that Biden won the freaking election and that the will of the American people must be respected.

There were 600 people arrested in Minneapolis on election night when it looked like Trump would be re-elected.

Where's the proof?
 

600+ arrested on I-94 in Minneapolis while protesting Trump’s election threats