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IceSpear
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« on: January 06, 2018, 02:09:56 PM »

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IceSpear
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« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2018, 02:23:36 PM »

Yes. He's unquestionably the underdog in a race against Ryan, but he's the best 2018 recruit by Democrats so far.

If a deadbeat dad is the best recruit Democrats have in 2018, then I'm very worried for the future.
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IceSpear
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« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2018, 02:28:13 PM »

Yes. He's unquestionably the underdog in a race against Ryan, but he's the best 2018 recruit by Democrats so far.

If a deadbeat dad is the best recruit Democrats have in 2018, then I'm very worried for the future.



Read the post above yours. He paid off his delinquent child support just in time to run for Congress. What a swell guy!
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IceSpear
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« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2018, 02:46:30 PM »

Yes. He's unquestionably the underdog in a race against Ryan, but he's the best 2018 recruit by Democrats so far.

If a deadbeat dad is the best recruit Democrats have in 2018, then I'm very worried for the future.



Read the post above yours. He paid off his delinquent child support just in time to run for Congress. What a swell guy!

Being late on a few months of child support vs. screwing over the country on taxes and health care. Literally who cares about the former when you've got a monster like Paul Ryan.

And hey, at least he paid his child support unlike certain other Republicans...


I wouldn't call a guy who's raised over $1.4 million in individual contributions a "meme candidate".

Whataboutery. Yeah, Ryan and Walsh are scum, so what? That doesn't make Bryce a good candidate or a good person. And there's a difference between falling behind on payments due to genuine hardship and magically finding the money to pay it off right before you run for Congress.
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IceSpear
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« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2018, 03:04:44 PM »

Actually, let's run more deadbeat dads and single moms for Congress. They're far more relatable to real Americans than braindead polysci majors in suits from Jos A Bank.

Yeah, while we're at it, let's run more incompetent bloviating morons to appeal to "Real Murikans." What could possibly go wrong?!

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« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2018, 03:58:52 PM »

Btw, the precious "WWC males" will still overwhelmingly support Lyin Ryan who wants to cut their Medicare and Social Security to give more tax cuts to their bosses in order to make a stand against black people kneeling and transgender people taking a piss, regardless of  how "folksy" and "blue collar" and "populist" Mr. "Iron Stache" is.
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IceSpear
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« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2018, 04:15:36 PM »
« Edited: January 06, 2018, 04:18:19 PM by IceSpear »

Why anyone would support Randy Bryce over Cathy Myers is beyond me.

They think his persona will win over "WWC" men, lol. The poor dears.

Take note. In Alabama, the upset of the century, Democrats won on the backs of minorities and educated whites. Despite being an exposed pedophile, Moore did better among the "WWC" areas of Alabama than he did in 2012. Yes, you heard that right. He did BETTER as a pedophile in "WWC" areas. Jones won anyway because of high black turnout and massive swings among educated whites.

Same story in Virginia. Establishment Ed did far better in "WWC" areas than Cuccinelli did, even though he was facing a moderate folksy former Republican rather than an elitist Clinton insider. He still got BTFO due to getting completely massacred among educated whites.

Focusing on this group is futile for Democrats. They're obsessed with white resentment, white grievances, and identity politics. Democrats would have to abandon their entire base to even have a prayer of slightly appealing to them. Alabama and Virginia show the way forward for Democrats.
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IceSpear
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« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2018, 06:04:24 PM »

As a resident of the suburbs, it's funny when Democrats say "we need to appeal to the less-racist suburban voters"

Which group had massive swings against the racist pedophile? White educated suburbanites or the "white working class?"

Which group had massive swings against Ed Gillespie's race baiting campaign? White educated suburbanites or the "white working class?"
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IceSpear
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« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2018, 06:21:21 PM »

As a resident of the suburbs, it's funny when Democrats say "we need to appeal to the less-racist suburban voters"

Which group had massive swings against the racist pedophile? White educated suburbanites or the "white working class?"

Which group had massive swings against Ed Gillespie's race baiting campaign? White educated suburbanites or the "white working class?"

It's pretty clear why Bernie bros are so hostile to college educated suburbanites. They are not exactly a Sanders-friendly group and if they become part of the Democratic base then far-lefties like him become more or less as irrelevant as the Blue Dogs and the DLCers.
Of course to appeal to WWC the Democratic party must throw under the bus blacks, Hispanics, gays and women, but I have a hunch that this is a sacrifice Bernie cultists are very much willing to make.

On top of that, I doubt Democrats would gain significant appeal to this group even if they DID throw all those groups under the bus, since they'd probably just (correctly) view it as pandering and would know deep down the Democrats are still an anti-white hate group at heart, lol. This is about as good of a strategy as the idea that Republicans should throw ~90% of their voters under the bus for the sake of appealing to a few small groups that they might not even win anyway!
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IceSpear
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« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2018, 06:27:19 PM »

It's pretty clear why Bernie bros are so hostile to college educated suburbanites. They are not exactly a Sanders-friendly group and if they become part of the Democratic base then far-lefties like him become more or less as irrelevant as the Blue Dogs and the DLCers.
Of course to appeal to WWC the Democratic party must throw under the bus blacks, Hispanics, gays and women, but I have a hunch that this is a sacrifice Bernie cultists are very much willing to make.

I get why some on the left don't like the shift to suburbanites, but I really don't buy into this idea that they won't follow along with a leftwards shift of economic policy. This is not really how people are influenced by politics. If they are becoming Democrats, they will take their cues from the party just like working class whites do from the GOP. Sure, if you raise taxes to like 80%, I'm sure the party will feel a lot of pain, but that's not likely going to happen.

Also, the suburbs are changing. This is not all based on people switching party loyalties. It may even be mostly an evolution of the suburbs rather than mass defections. As Millennials branch out and start families, and as the nation becomes less white, the suburbs become less Republican.

Yes, the dirty secret is that voters tend to be shaped by their party over time. You'll find plenty of former "populist" Democrats in West Virginia who are now stalwarts against government and wholeheartedly believe in trickle down economics and the virtues of billionaires, despite initially switching parties over social issues and muh coal. Similarly, you'll find plenty of formerly "fiscally conservative and socially liberal" Republicans in Delaware and Chester Counties who initially switched parties over the GOP's intolerance and pandering to Southern evangelicals yet now support single payer and higher taxes on the wealthy.
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« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2018, 06:50:58 PM »

I like how people on this thread are saying the democrats need to appeal to minorites instead of the WWC, implying that minorites are a monolith group who apparently are hyper focused on social issues and on those social issues they all possess extremely liberal beliefs.

It is the "WWC" that is obsessed with "social issues" like black people kneeling and transgender people taking a piss.
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IceSpear
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« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2018, 08:40:21 PM »

Nina Turner isn’t hated b/c she’s a black woman, it’s b/c she’s two-bit con artist who can’t be trusted to be a team player and is about as principled as Donald Trump. 

You people are just triggered by her since she didn't support Hillary in the primary.

She did support Hillary actually, then she flip flopped. What an unprincipled spineless sellout!
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