🇬🇷 Greek politics and elections

[Mike88]

I think this talk of Misotakis going to an EU post is just completely stupid, besides being just out of this world, and not sure if it has any ground.

In another topic, PASOK, according to polls, has slipped to third place and "car crash" Syriza is back in second place. Is Androulakis leadership being contested?

Looks like Antonio Costa and Leo Varadkar might have competition, seems an EU post is the dream of PM's lately.

As for PASOK, it's probably just a blip from Andreas Loverdos (serial loser of the PASOK leadership who failed to even get elected as an MP) founding his own party and getting 2% initially.

Maybe. I just think it's weird that talk, as he just won a major landslide a few months ago. Oh, there was a split in PASOK. Still, it's a bit embarrasing to be behind current day Syriza, but it seems that Greek politics is morfing into a one major party system with tons of minor opposition parties.

[oldtimer]

I think this talk of Misotakis going to an EU post is just completely stupid, besides being just out of this world, and not sure if it has any ground.

In another topic, PASOK, according to polls, has slipped to third place and "car crash" Syriza is back in second place. Is Androulakis leadership being contested?

Looks like Antonio Costa and Leo Varadkar might have competition, seems an EU post is the dream of PM's lately.

As for PASOK, it's probably just a blip from Andreas Loverdos (serial loser of the PASOK leadership who failed to even get elected as an MP) founding his own party and getting 2% initially.

Maybe. I just think it's weird that talk, as he just won a major landslide a few months ago. Oh, there was a split in PASOK. Still, it's a bit embarrasing to be behind current day Syriza, but it seems that Greek politics is morfing into a one major party system with tons of minor opposition parties.

The landslide was articifial.

If you go back and see the posts on this thread, you will see that initially he had trouble getting re-elected, under the weight of all the scandals and disasters.

It was only when Varoufakis+Katrougalos scared people into rallying behind ND, that his re-election became certain.

As for the current party system, it's still similar to Portugal's, just with the PS being split in 2 equal parts for now.

[Mike88]

I think this talk of Misotakis going to an EU post is just completely stupid, besides being just out of this world, and not sure if it has any ground.

In another topic, PASOK, according to polls, has slipped to third place and "car crash" Syriza is back in second place. Is Androulakis leadership being contested?

Looks like Antonio Costa and Leo Varadkar might have competition, seems an EU post is the dream of PM's lately.

As for PASOK, it's probably just a blip from Andreas Loverdos (serial loser of the PASOK leadership who failed to even get elected as an MP) founding his own party and getting 2% initially.

Maybe. I just think it's weird that talk, as he just won a major landslide a few months ago. Oh, there was a split in PASOK. Still, it's a bit embarrasing to be behind current day Syriza, but it seems that Greek politics is morfing into a one major party system with tons of minor opposition parties.

The landslide was articifial.

If you go back and see the posts on this thread, you will see that initially he had trouble getting re-elected, under the weight of all the scandals and disasters.

It was only when Varoufakis+Katrougalos scared people into rallying behind ND, that his re-election became certain.

As for the current party system, it's still similar to Portugal's, just with the PS being split in 2 equal parts for now.

Artificial or not, it was a landslide still, but it its what it is. Curious trend of incumbent PMs just wrecking their "surprise" majorities, first it was Trudeau, then Boris, Costa and now Misotakis.

There's a difference, Portugal is nowadays a three major party system, in which gridlock is the norm, but that's talk for the Portuguese thread.

[oldtimer]

I think this talk of Misotakis going to an EU post is just completely stupid, besides being just out of this world, and not sure if it has any ground.

In another topic, PASOK, according to polls, has slipped to third place and "car crash" Syriza is back in second place. Is Androulakis leadership being contested?

Looks like Antonio Costa and Leo Varadkar might have competition, seems an EU post is the dream of PM's lately.

As for PASOK, it's probably just a blip from Andreas Loverdos (serial loser of the PASOK leadership who failed to even get elected as an MP) founding his own party and getting 2% initially.

Maybe. I just think it's weird that talk, as he just won a major landslide a few months ago. Oh, there was a split in PASOK. Still, it's a bit embarrasing to be behind current day Syriza, but it seems that Greek politics is morfing into a one major party system with tons of minor opposition parties.

The landslide was articifial.

If you go back and see the posts on this thread, you will see that initially he had trouble getting re-elected, under the weight of all the scandals and disasters.

It was only when Varoufakis+Katrougalos scared people into rallying behind ND, that his re-election became certain.

As for the current party system, it's still similar to Portugal's, just with the PS being split in 2 equal parts for now.

Artificial or not, it was a landslide still, but it its what it is. Curious trend of incumbent PMs just wrecking their "surprise" majorities, first it was Trudeau, then Boris, Costa and now Misotakis.

There's a difference, Portugal is nowadays a three major party system, in which gridlock is the norm, but that's talk for the Portuguese thread.

Give it some time, in the current opinion polls Velopoulos+NIKKI+Spartans=18%=CHEGA.

[No War, but the War on Christmas]

Don't care about anyones opinions of Hasan, just to get that out of the way.

Interesting interview with Varoufakis, whom I've long been at the very least impressed with on a personal level, even if his political ambitions are not very successful.

Good guy with an extremely positive vision for Europe compared to how things are going right now. 

[CumbrianLefty]

He is fundamentally a grifter, who will only ever bring your political tendency grief. Sorry about that.

[Storr]

"Independent MP Konstantinos Floros — formerly with the far-right Spartiates (Spartans) party — appeared to assault MP Vassilis Grammenos of the nationalist Greek Solution party during a heated debate in parliament over a defamation lawsuit.

Parliament was discussing the lifting of the immunity of Greek Solution President Kyriakos Velopoulos, who has been sued for defamation by a retired navy officer. Floros is the retired navy officer’s son. He requested to speak in the plenary during the debate, but was not allowed to, since he is involved in the case.

 “This will be decided by judges,” Floros shouted anyway, to which Grammenos replied “shut up, you trash!”

The tension escalated and the two men stepped outside of the plenary room. Photos have emerged in Greek media that appear to show Floros putting Grammenos in a headlock and throwing him on the ground."

Floros has been charged with article 157 of the criminal code, a felony, "attack against a member of parliament during the performance of his duties" and is in police custody. Grammenos was sent to the hospital, suffering from a nose and wrist fracture.




https://www.protothema.gr/politics/article/1491204/vouli-sunelifthi-o-konstadinos-floros-gia-tin-epithesi-ston-vasili-grammeno-tis-ellinikis-lusis/