What do you find immoral?

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A lot of you fail to realize the existence of a process of thought that weighs various things or, can, in fact be knowingly hypocritical. I can knowingly do or want to do a number of immoral things consciously. That certainly doesn't make me a good person, but fact is that my behavior is not the ultimate determiner of what I judge to be right or wrong. Ridiculous.

I just threw up a little in my mouth, because I agree with most of what Cathcon said.  *shudder*

Just because you personally enjoy doing something doesn't make it moral.

I have to say though whoever said teenage sex is immoral just called Mary mother of Jesus a whore.  Congratulations.  The lack of scientific knowledge in America and the western world in general is amazing.  How can someone not even know that human beings evolved to initiate sexual relations in their teens?!  WTF, Atlas?!

It ties with homosexuality. Given both are evolutionary responses, I wouldn't be surprised if the same people voted for both.

Afleitch, you're pushing it...

[Tetro Kornbluth]

A lot of you fail to realize the existence of a process of thought that weighs various things or, can, in fact be knowingly hypocritical. I can knowingly do or want to do a number of immoral things consciously. That certainly doesn't make me a good person, but fact is that my behavior is not the ultimate determiner of what I judge to be right or wrong. Ridiculous.

I just threw up a little in my mouth, because I agree with most of what Cathcon said.  *shudder*

Just because you personally enjoy doing something doesn't make it moral.

I have to say though whoever said teenage sex is immoral just called Mary mother of Jesus a whore.  Congratulations.  The lack of scientific knowledge in America and the western world in general is amazing.  How can someone not even know that human beings evolved to initiate sexual relations in their teens?!  WTF, Atlas?!

It ties with homosexuality. Given both are evolutionary responses, I wouldn't be surprised if the same people voted for both.

I wouldn't lump teen sex in with homosexuality.    Anyone that has done even a modicum of science and history realizes without teen sex our numbers as a species would have been substantially lower.  The same cannot be said of homosexuality.

Homosexuality is something people can have debates about.  But teen sex?!  I mean how old do people think Mary was when she had Jesus?  35?

Teen-Immortal Deity sex actually.

[Tetro Kornbluth]

A lot of you fail to realize the existence of a process of thought that weighs various things or, can, in fact be knowingly hypocritical. I can knowingly do or want to do a number of immoral things consciously. That certainly doesn't make me a good person, but fact is that my behavior is not the ultimate determiner of what I judge to be right or wrong. Ridiculous.

I just threw up a little in my mouth, because I agree with most of what Cathcon said.  *shudder*

Just because you personally enjoy doing something doesn't make it moral.

I have to say though whoever said teenage sex is immoral just called Mary mother of Jesus a whore.  Congratulations.  The lack of scientific knowledge in America and the western world in general is amazing.  How can someone not even know that human beings evolved to initiate sexual relations in their teens?!  WTF, Atlas?!

It ties with homosexuality. Given both are evolutionary responses, I wouldn't be surprised if the same people voted for both.

Afleitch, you're pushing it...

I mean in the strictest possible sense. Given that homosexual behaviour has been observed in almost all animals (and I say almost as any inference has to be based on an observation) that procreate (and by extension, are 'sociable') in species separated by up to 200 million years of evolution, then given that it presents itself across species then there must be a reason why it still does, even as animals have evolved.

Oh I misread you... I thought that said homophobia was an evolutionary response. I apologize.

Interestingly the ubiquitous presence of homosexuality in nature has proven to be a major problem to a lot of classically adaptationist evolutionary biology. It's clearly a trait with a long history in nature, but surely by its nature it should be selected against?

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If that is true, then why have different societies throughout history have had different moralities, different set of ethics?