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« on: April 06, 2005, 02:08:31 PM »

Why wouldn't a liberal support Evan Bayh? He's no John Kerry, but he's still a left-wing extremist hack.
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« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2005, 02:30:27 PM »

Why wouldn't a liberal support Evan Bayh? He's no John Kerry, but he's still a left-wing extremist hack.

Any Democrat is a left-wing extremist hack, except for the DINOs, right? Roll Eyes

Would you stop? That icon needs to be eradicated.

A left-wing extremist hack is someone who thinks taxes aren't too high, votes against the Unborn Victims of Violence Act, opposes any kind of federal marriage amendment, and votes against confirming Condi.
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« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2005, 05:05:21 PM »

Anyways, does anyone know Bayh's position on the Iraq war? He voted for it.

So did Kerry. The entire Democratic Senate flip-flopped.
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« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2005, 05:08:08 PM »

I'd rather just exempt their families from income tax.
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« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2005, 05:18:46 PM »


According to your link, so did 3/4 of the Senate.
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« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2005, 05:24:00 PM »

I am very happy with the bill, and I'm no credit card company. It enrages my sense of justice that people don't pay their debts.
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« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2005, 05:35:02 PM »

Maybe your attitude would change given the fact that half of people who declare bankruptcy do so because of large medical bills.

I've read that about 50% of bankruptcy filings are due to medical bills (due to lack of health insurance or inadequate health insurance). Another large percentage is due to divorce. Only a minority of bankruptcy cases are due to fiscal irresponsibility.

So yeah, the bankruptcy bill sucks. The credit card companies can change your interest rate from 8% to 25% without any reason, totally screwing over the consumer.

They still have to pay, not just screw people over.

And of course the credit card companies should be able to change the interest rate to whatever they want. That is, whatever was agreed upon by both parties.
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« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2005, 05:38:09 PM »

Another one of the many reasons for universal, single-payer health care.

No thanks, I oppose slavery and fascism.

http://www.heritage.org/Research/HealthCare/hl856.cfm
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« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2005, 05:38:46 PM »



They still have to pay, not just screw people over.

And of course the credit card companies should be able to change the interest rate to whatever they want. That is, whatever was agreed upon by both parties.

So a 25% interest rate seems reasonable to you?

No, but it should be up to the two parties to agree to whatever terms they want. There's competition, of course.
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« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2005, 05:43:07 PM »

Another one of the many reasons for universal, single-payer health care.

No thanks, I oppose slavery and fascism.

http://www.heritage.org/Research/HealthCare/hl856.cfm

For all their Canada bashing, they still admit it's better than the US. That's pretty funny.



Well, that obviously depends who you are. And actually, they cited the World Health Organization for that.
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« Reply #10 on: April 06, 2005, 05:43:38 PM »

Single-payer would be cheaper than our current system and do wonders for our economy and the well-being of American citizens.

No facts, no stats, just nonsense opinion. And it is clearly anti-freedom.
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« Reply #11 on: April 06, 2005, 05:49:05 PM »

Anyways, does anyone know Bayh's position on the Iraq war? He voted for it.

So did Kerry. The entire Democratic Senate flip-flopped.

George W. Bush:

Opposed Homeland Security Department
Then he was for it

flip-flop

Opposed an independent 9/11 Commission
Then he was for it

Flippity-flop

Opposed McCain-Feingold Campaign Finance Bill
Then he was for it

Flippity-floppity



This would be why I thought you were 12.
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« Reply #12 on: April 06, 2005, 05:50:18 PM »

Single-payer would be cheaper than our current system and do wonders for our economy and the well-being of American citizens.

No facts, no stats, just nonsense opinion. And it is clearly anti-freedom.

So is using the State to collect private debts.

It's a legal contract. As in, enforced by the state.
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« Reply #13 on: April 06, 2005, 05:51:30 PM »

It's one thing to change your mind on principle, another to change your mind on policy.

One of those was a flip-flop on principle: McCain-Feingold. Certainly that was terrible, and I condemn Bush for it. Not as bad as changing your mind on a war, though.
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