Can you feel the love tonight?? (Warning: Attn Whoring)

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

This has taken a quick turn to say the least.

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WOW, I'd take a step back if I were you.  Marriage is a pretty permanent thing and you're still young.  Maybe dating for a few years first would be more prudent.  This could just be the excitement of a new relationship, which can fade fast and leave a crappy relationship behind.  Live your lives together before you make a lifelong commitment to someone you barely know.

That and you gotta at least hit it once or twice. You know, would you buy a car w/out taking it out for a test drive? Are you buying new or used?

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

WOW, I'd take a step back if I were you.  Marriage is a pretty permanent thing and you're still young.  Maybe dating for a few years first would be more prudent.  This could just be the excitement of a new relationship, which can fade fast and leave a crappy relationship behind.  Live your lives together before you make a lifelong commitment to someone you barely know.

That and you gotta at least hit it once or twice. You know, would you buy a car w/out taking it out for a test drive? Are you buying new or used?

Obviously used considering she already has a child.

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That's what you get for not reading the whole thread!

[memphis]

You've gotta slow down man. I can tell you're crazy about this girl, but mention of marriage this soon is nothing short of insanity. Take some time to get to know her better.

[WalterMitty]

  We have both said the only thing that will stop us now is if the Lord comes back for his church before then.  We have both committed that divorce is not and will never be an option.

sorry, bushok, but that kind of weirds me out.

[Lunar]

BRAKES

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

This is beyond creepy. More like borderline disturbing. Especially since the woman has to be divorced if she has a kid.

Honestly this reminds me of some 15-year old in love for the first time especially with the "We'll be together FOREVER!" deal.

[King]

Especially since the woman has to be divorced if she has a kid.

Or perhaps never married.

This is the problem with this whole abstinence before marriage deal.  It's pretty obvious that BushOklahoma is having normal biological sexual urges, but at the same time is conflicted by his virginity until marriage beliefs.  Because of this, he (and other hardline Christian youth under this pressure) are forced to rush relationships to satisfy a basic human need.  Unfortunately, this will probably lead to two people who really don't love each other but rather lust for each other to enter in this long term relationship with a high risk of failure.

And that's the cold, hard truth.

[RI]

Especially since the woman has to be divorced if she has a kid.

Or perhaps never married.

This is the problem with this whole abstinence before marriage deal.  It's pretty obvious that BushOklahoma is having normal biological sexual urges, but at the same time is conflicted by his virginity until marriage beliefs.  Because of this, he (and other hardline Christian youth under this pressure) are forced to rush relationships to satisfy a basic human need.  Unfortunately, this will probably lead to two people who really don't love each other but rather lust for each other to enter in this long term relationship with a high risk of failure.

And that's the cold, hard truth.

This is unfortunately true.

[© tweed]

Especially since the woman has to be divorced if she has a kid.

Or perhaps never married.

This is the problem with this whole abstinence before marriage deal.  It's pretty obvious that BushOklahoma is having normal biological sexual urges, but at the same time is conflicted by his virginity until marriage beliefs.  Because of this, he (and other hardline Christian youth under this pressure) are forced to rush relationships to satisfy a basic human need.  Unfortunately, this will probably lead to two people who really don't love each other but rather lust for each other to enter in this long term relationship with a high risk of failure.

And that's the cold, hard truth.

one of greatest posts in forum history

[Keystone Phil]

Especially since the woman has to be divorced if she has a kid.

Or perhaps never married.

This is the problem with this whole abstinence before marriage deal.  It's pretty obvious that BushOklahoma is having normal biological sexual urges, but at the same time is conflicted by his virginity until marriage beliefs.  Because of this, he (and other hardline Christian youth under this pressure) are forced to rush relationships to satisfy a basic human need.  Unfortunately, this will probably lead to two people who really don't love each other but rather lust for each other to enter in this long term relationship with a high risk of failure.

And that's the cold, hard truth.

Decoded: You're a fool if you practice abstinence. You're always setting yourself up for heart break.

[MaxQue]

Especially since the woman has to be divorced if she has a kid.

Or perhaps never married.

This is the problem with this whole abstinence before marriage deal.  It's pretty obvious that BushOklahoma is having normal biological sexual urges, but at the same time is conflicted by his virginity until marriage beliefs.  Because of this, he (and other hardline Christian youth under this pressure) are forced to rush relationships to satisfy a basic human need.  Unfortunately, this will probably lead to two people who really don't love each other but rather lust for each other to enter in this long term relationship with a high risk of failure.

And that's the cold, hard truth.

Decoded: You're a fool if you practice abstinence. You're always setting yourself up for heart break.

The problem is people who get married for having sex together, without living together before. Being with somebody a few hours each day is not the same thing than living all the time with somebody.

[Marokai Backbeat]

Especially since the woman has to be divorced if she has a kid.

Or perhaps never married.

This is the problem with this whole abstinence before marriage deal.  It's pretty obvious that BushOklahoma is having normal biological sexual urges, but at the same time is conflicted by his virginity until marriage beliefs.  Because of this, he (and other hardline Christian youth under this pressure) are forced to rush relationships to satisfy a basic human need.  Unfortunately, this will probably lead to two people who really don't love each other but rather lust for each other to enter in this long term relationship with a high risk of failure.

And that's the cold, hard truth.

Decoded: You're a fool if you practice abstinence. You're always setting yourself up for heart break.

Too close to home for you Phil, I know.

[Joe Republic]

Especially since the woman has to be divorced if she has a kid.

Or perhaps never married.

This is the problem with this whole abstinence before marriage deal.  It's pretty obvious that BushOklahoma is having normal biological sexual urges, but at the same time is conflicted by his virginity until marriage beliefs.  Because of this, he (and other hardline Christian youth under this pressure) are forced to rush relationships to satisfy a basic human need.  Unfortunately, this will probably lead to two people who really don't love each other but rather lust for each other to enter in this long term relationship with a high risk of failure.

And that's the cold, hard truth.

Decoded: You're a fool if you practice abstinence. You're always setting yourself up for heart break.

I've added bolding to emphasize where you made the false implication.

[Sensei]

Especially since the woman has to be divorced if she has a kid.

Or perhaps never married.

This is the problem with this whole abstinence before marriage deal.  It's pretty obvious that BushOklahoma is having normal biological sexual urges, but at the same time is conflicted by his virginity until marriage beliefs.  Because of this, he (and other hardline Christian youth under this pressure) are forced to rush relationships to satisfy a basic human need.  Unfortunately, this will probably lead to two people who really don't love each other but rather lust for each other to enter in this long term relationship with a high risk of failure.

And that's the cold, hard truth.

Decoded: You're a fool if you practice abstinence. You're always setting yourself up for heart break.

I like you, Phil, but do you always think you're being made fun of?

[Keystone Phil]

Especially since the woman has to be divorced if she has a kid.

Or perhaps never married.

This is the problem with this whole abstinence before marriage deal.  It's pretty obvious that BushOklahoma is having normal biological sexual urges, but at the same time is conflicted by his virginity until marriage beliefs.  Because of this, he (and other hardline Christian youth under this pressure) are forced to rush relationships to satisfy a basic human need.  Unfortunately, this will probably lead to two people who really don't love each other but rather lust for each other to enter in this long term relationship with a high risk of failure.

And that's the cold, hard truth.

Decoded: You're a fool if you practice abstinence. You're always setting yourself up for heart break.

The problem is people who get married for having sex together, without living together before.

Well, I believe you're a fool for getting married just to have sex together anyway. I don't see why not living together before sets you up for more problems.

 

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Right, I agree but I don't see how that's relevant.

Especially since the woman has to be divorced if she has a kid.

Or perhaps never married.

This is the problem with this whole abstinence before marriage deal.  It's pretty obvious that BushOklahoma is having normal biological sexual urges, but at the same time is conflicted by his virginity until marriage beliefs.  Because of this, he (and other hardline Christian youth under this pressure) are forced to rush relationships to satisfy a basic human need.  Unfortunately, this will probably lead to two people who really don't love each other but rather lust for each other to enter in this long term relationship with a high risk of failure.

And that's the cold, hard truth.

Decoded: You're a fool if you practice abstinence. You're always setting yourself up for heart break.

Too close to home for you Phil, I know.

Uh, what?

If this is exactly what I think this is, I'd love to know how this isn't blatant trolling.

Especially since the woman has to be divorced if she has a kid.

Or perhaps never married.

This is the problem with this whole abstinence before marriage deal.  It's pretty obvious that BushOklahoma is having normal biological sexual urges, but at the same time is conflicted by his virginity until marriage beliefs.  Because of this, he (and other hardline Christian youth under this pressure) are forced to rush relationships to satisfy a basic human need.  Unfortunately, this will probably lead to two people who really don't love each other but rather lust for each other to enter in this long term relationship with a high risk of failure.

And that's the cold, hard truth.

Decoded: You're a fool if you practice abstinence. You're always setting yourself up for heart break.

I've added bolding to emphasize where you made the false implication.

Oh, ok. You're "probably' setting yourself up for heartbreak. I think that's silly, too.

[Keystone Phil]

Especially since the woman has to be divorced if she has a kid.

Or perhaps never married.

This is the problem with this whole abstinence before marriage deal.  It's pretty obvious that BushOklahoma is having normal biological sexual urges, but at the same time is conflicted by his virginity until marriage beliefs.  Because of this, he (and other hardline Christian youth under this pressure) are forced to rush relationships to satisfy a basic human need.  Unfortunately, this will probably lead to two people who really don't love each other but rather lust for each other to enter in this long term relationship with a high risk of failure.

And that's the cold, hard truth.

Decoded: You're a fool if you practice abstinence. You're always setting yourself up for heart break.

I like you, Phil, but do you always think you're being made fun of?

What does this have to do with me? I'm defending someone who is the butt of far too many jokes around here and I'm tired of people who choose to practice abstinence also catching hell for their choices as well.

Don't assume anything about my sex life and I won't assume anything about yours. Thanks.

[Marokai Backbeat]

It's a big jump to go from going out to dinner with one another every other night, spending an evening at the others' home, and generally having alot of time being together, and jumping to being together at all times and being intimate for the very first time. (Being intimate at all.)

Not being around the person, not living with the person and knowing their routine, and getting used to seeing a side of them you don't see when you're eating out and parting ways, is an important aspect to building a relationship that will supposedly last forever. There's a big, big difference and an important one to prepare yourself for if you're going to get married. There are bound to be problems in someone's marriage if up until that point, one never goes too far beyond the surface.

[Keystone Phil]

It's a big jump to go from going out to dinner with one another every other night, spending an evening at the others' home, and generally having alot of time being together, and jumping to being together at all times and being intimate for the very first time. (Being intimate at all.)

I don't disagree with that but that has nothing to do with this.

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So people that don't live together before marriage are basically doomed?

My problem here isn't with people saying BushOK is taking things too quickly; it's the constant jokes about the abstinence that he chooses to practice and telling him that is why he really wants to get married. I'm tired of people like BushOK being painted as brain dead fools who are usually setting themselves up for disappointment.

[Marokai Backbeat]

Well, obviously I would much rather be abstinent than be BRTD or Flyers.

[Keystone Phil]

Well, obviously I would much rather be abstinent than be BRTD or Flyers.

Well, that isn't saying much. 

[TeePee4Prez]

WOW, I'd take a step back if I were you.  Marriage is a pretty permanent thing and you're still young.  Maybe dating for a few years first would be more prudent.  This could just be the excitement of a new relationship, which can fade fast and leave a crappy relationship behind.  Live your lives together before you make a lifelong commitment to someone you barely know.

That and you gotta at least hit it once or twice. You know, would you buy a car w/out taking it out for a test drive? Are you buying new or used?

Obviously used considering she already has a child.

Just thought of that after I made my last post.  I think he has to lower his "waiting for marriage" standard or else.. yeah, I'll say it he's setting himself for disappointment.  The fact that his ex set him up also disturbs me.  The woman dumped him for a freaking grandfather.  If it were me, I wouldn't be talking to her much or at all for that matter.  I don't want to be mean to him because God knows I've been in the same position as him before.  It takes a while to realize the best thing is to do what comes natural and to act on it.  I mean the new girl already has a child.  DUH, she definitely likes sex and to me this might not look good already.  I hope BushOK doesn't turn out to be like the 40 Year Old Virgin.  I really do.   

[Keystone Phil]

Think with your dick when that's easiest, right, Flyers? It's doing wonders for you.

[YRABNNRM]

Think with your dick when that's easiest, right, Flyers? It's doing wonders for you.

It's the Kenso way.