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« on: October 27, 2018, 02:38:49 PM »

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-immigration-trump/mattis-approves-u-s-troops-at-border-with-mexico-idUSKCN1N029H
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Nice to see our government having reaaal important priorities here. So what, are they going to bomb the caravan?

It feels like when the AFD parliament leader said that the German army should protect the border. In this case the AFD is in government with a supermajority and isn’t a laughing matter.
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« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2018, 02:43:51 PM »

Put the Marines to work making our big beautiful glorious wall with 50 cal machine gun turrets every 100 yards. Purple heart
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« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2018, 02:48:14 PM »

I don't see a problem with that, it's not like they're going to shoot the foreigners on sight, just patrolling the border.
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« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2018, 02:56:48 PM »

I don't see a problem with that, it's not like they're going to shoot the foreigners on sight, just patrolling the border.
Honestly I am doubting that they’ll resist. Trump would need something to get his base to turn out.
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« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2018, 03:02:31 PM »

They should set up an enlistment booth.  I know the Army missed it's recruiting quota this year and any migrant that makes it to the border will have walked over a 1,000 miles to get there.
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« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2018, 03:15:03 PM »

Why is Mattis doing this when its purely for political reason. The Caravan is in Chiapas and they're only walking 20-30 miles max a day. That means that the caravan won't arrive till around the 1st of December.
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« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2018, 03:15:09 PM »

I don't see a problem with that, it's not like they're going to shoot the foreigners on sight, just patrolling the border.

They're not even doing that. They legally (and for very good reasons) cannot. All they're going to do is rear eschlon support. And they're scheduled to be gone before the refugee caravan will likely even arrive.

Just election PR. Trump does know his audience and has some real talent as a showman.
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« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2018, 04:31:10 PM »

If Obama had deployed military troops within US borders, Infowars would be melting down about Jade Helm and posse comitatus.
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« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2018, 04:37:03 PM »

The cherry on top of this absolutely horrendous week! I knew Mattis would turn out to resemble a typical Trump Cabinet member eventually. What a pointless exercise. The entire invasion force during D-Day probably wouldn't be able to cover the border, let alone a measly 800. This is especially troubling because it's endorsing the idea that this refugee caravan is somehow dangerous. Meanwhile, if the events of this week are any indication, it's our own fellow Americans that we should be the most worried about.
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« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2018, 05:56:17 PM »

There's absolutely no reason to proceed past Mexico if they're genuine refugees seeking shelter from dangers at home. Mexico is deemed safe enough by international agencies that manage refugee affairs. If they were genuine refugees fleeing a life or death situation, Mexico would be good enough for them. But, it's not; they're economic migrants and should be treated as such. Stop them at the border, deny all applications for refugee status, and keep them in/return them to Mexico if their homeland really isn't safe enough for them.
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« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2018, 06:16:50 PM »

There's absolutely no reason to proceed past Mexico if they're genuine refugees seeking shelter from dangers at home. Mexico is deemed safe enough by international agencies that manage refugee affairs. If they were genuine refugees fleeing a life or death situation, Mexico would be good enough for them. But, it's not; they're economic migrants and should be treated as such. Stop them at the border, deny all applications for refugee status, and keep them in/return them to Mexico if their homeland really isn't safe enough for them.
I’m placing a dollar they’ll topple AMLO over this.
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« Reply #11 on: October 27, 2018, 06:41:40 PM »

There's absolutely no reason to proceed past Mexico if they're genuine refugees seeking shelter from dangers at home. Mexico is deemed safe enough by international agencies that manage refugee affairs. If they were genuine refugees fleeing a life or death situation, Mexico would be good enough for them. But, it's not; they're economic migrants and should be treated as such. Stop them at the border, deny all applications for refugee status, and keep them in/return them to Mexico if their homeland really isn't safe enough for them.
I’m placing a dollar they’ll topple AMLO over this.

The AMLO government should provide those with shelter and assistance if they can prove that they're in mortal danger at home. I'm sure more than a few of them are. The rest, his government can return home. But, Mexico and America need to start working together to solve the issues plaguing Central America that are, certainly, largely the fault of American interference (recently and historically). The sheer level of violence and corruption in the region rivals that of wartorn areas and is both unnecessary and unacceptable.

A good first step is for the international community to sanction corrupt officials and to cease all foreign aid to governments deemed too corrupt. Next, we need to decriminalize drugs, thereby reducing the flow of money into the hands of cartels and their allies in those government. Third, we need to tackle the flow of arms going south of the border. And, finally, we need to work with Mexico to help fund shelters to protect these refugees until they can be returned, safely, to their homelands.
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« Reply #12 on: October 27, 2018, 06:44:19 PM »

There's absolutely no reason to proceed past Mexico if they're genuine refugees seeking shelter from dangers at home. Mexico is deemed safe enough by international agencies that manage refugee affairs. If they were genuine refugees fleeing a life or death situation, Mexico would be good enough for them. But, it's not; they're economic migrants and should be treated as such. Stop them at the border, deny all applications for refugee status, and keep them in/return them to Mexico if their homeland really isn't safe enough for them.
I’m placing a dollar they’ll topple AMLO over this.
The AMLO government should provide those with shelter and assistance if they can prove that they're in mortal danger at home. I'm sure more than a few of them are. The rest, his government can return home. But, Mexico and America need to start working together to solve the issues plaguing Central America that are, certainly, largely the fault of American interference (recently and historically). The sheer level of violence and corruption in the region rivals that of wartorn areas and is both unnecessary and unacceptable.

A good first step is for the international community to sanction corrupt officials and to cease all foreign aid to governments deemed too corrupt. Next, we need to decriminalize drugs, thereby reducing the flow of money into the hands of cartels and their allies in those government. Third, we need to tackle the flow of arms going south of the border. And, finally, we need to work with Mexico to help fund shelters to protect these refugees until they can be returned, safely, to their homelands.
excellent words but I meant that jokingly the marines will overthrow the Mexican government
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« Reply #13 on: October 27, 2018, 07:21:27 PM »

I don't see a problem with that, it's not like they're going to shoot the foreigners on sight, just patrolling the border.
Honestly I am doubting that they’ll resist. Trump would need something to get his base to turn out.
the caravan likely won't reach the border by the 6th. I would not be surprised, however, if it does happen when they reach the border.
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« Reply #14 on: October 29, 2018, 12:26:05 PM »

Now thousands are expected to guard it. I guess the Posse Comitatus statute is dead.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-immigration-trump/thousands-of-u-s-troops-could-be-sent-to-mexico-border-source-idUSKCN1N31VG
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I highly doubt they’ll be stationed on standby with Trump as Commander. Goodbye Bill of Rights.
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« Reply #15 on: October 29, 2018, 02:53:31 PM »


Mattis: Military already moving equipment to southern border
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« Reply #16 on: October 29, 2018, 03:36:55 PM »

Trump, FOX, Republicans, etc. so desperately wants this to be the closing topic of the midterms. It's up to the rest of the mainstream media if they allow it to be so. Let's say I have little trust in them not to fall into the trap of this non-issue.
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« Reply #17 on: October 29, 2018, 03:39:47 PM »

I don't see the issue with this. Wouldn't we be safer if the caravan was stopped and the people turned away? These aren't refugees with whom we are dealing.
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« Reply #18 on: October 29, 2018, 03:51:38 PM »

There's absolutely no reason to proceed past Mexico if they're genuine refugees seeking shelter from dangers at home. Mexico is deemed safe enough by international agencies that manage refugee affairs. If they were genuine refugees fleeing a life or death situation, Mexico would be good enough for them. But, it's not; they're economic migrants and should be treated as such. Stop them at the border, deny all applications for refugee status, and keep them in/return them to Mexico if their homeland really isn't safe enough for them.

Like the last time this happend, a large portion will end up staying in Mexico. The "caravan" right now is only about 4,000 people and they are thousands of miles away. That number will continue to go down. This is a total PR stunt to try to change the topic before the election.
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« Reply #19 on: October 29, 2018, 04:37:21 PM »

This is a massive PR stunt.

Anyone remember "Children Overboard" to get John Howard re-elected.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children_Overboard_affair

If photographed correctly with a couple of interviews, this will play into the hands of Republicans.

They really need a live web-cam that the American people can watch showing the impending illegal activity in the early stages.
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« Reply #20 on: October 29, 2018, 04:47:14 PM »

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/pentagon-send-5-200-troops-u-s-mexico-border-operation-n925866?cid=sm_npd_nn_fb_ma

under Trump's orders to stop the migrant caravan....expected to be in place prior to Election day.
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« Reply #21 on: October 29, 2018, 04:52:00 PM »

This is not America. So sad that we have this situation with a deranged political party taking rash action and ignoring serious problems. We are on the cusp of a fascist regime. I sure hope that we get a blue wave next week and that leads to some sense of moderation from the Republicans or I honestly fear we become Germany in the 30's.
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« Reply #22 on: October 29, 2018, 04:54:50 PM »

This is not America. So sad that we have this situation with a deranged political party taking rash action and ignoring serious problems. We are on the cusp of a fascist regime. I sure hope that we get a blue wave next week and that leads to some sense of moderation from the Republicans or I honestly fear we become Germany in the 30's.

True, if this was America, they'd be sent to kill more Yemeni children for Saudi Arabia's religious war.
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« Reply #23 on: October 29, 2018, 04:57:52 PM »

100 years ago we had a lot more troops deployed at the border to protect against lawlessness and mass crossings. NBD.
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« Reply #24 on: October 29, 2018, 05:43:56 PM »

It's time for the media to call a spade a spade.  "Operation Faithful Patriot" isn't "divisive" or "polarizing".  It's fascist.  Point blank.

100 years ago we had a lot more troops deployed at the border to protect against lawlessness and mass crossings. NBD.

What "lawnessness" and which "mass crossings" are you talking about?  The so-called caravan is still over a thousand miles away.

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