Georgia grand jury investigating Trump returns indictments

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Bill Barr thinks Trump’s 2024 candidacy shouldn’t give him any sort of immunity or perks, and he believes Trump will be convicted … in the federal cases

  he pointedly isn’t a fan of the Georgia case:

[Barr] also criticized the most recent indictment against the former president out of Georgia – where Trump faces 13 felony counts related to his alleged efforts to overturn the state’s 2020 election results – as “too sweeping, much too broad” and “excessive.”

Barr argued that it is unlikely to be tried before the 2024 presidential election and that it makes it “look like people are piling on and being excessive to Trump and feeds the narrative that he’s being victimized.”

“I’m not happy with the Georgia case,” Barr said. “I don’t think it’s going to be trialable before the election. It’s just too sprawling.”

https://nypost.com/2023/08/17/bill-barr-says-federal-cases-against-trump-will-be-tried-before-election-and-chances-are-he-will-be-convicted/

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Looks like RUDY G is gonna walk from the charges

https://www.yahoo.com/news/rudy-giuliani-claims-scientific-evidence-151225444.html

Rudy Giuliani claims he has new “scientific evidence” of fraud to prove his innocence

Former Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani claimed on Sunday that he has "scientific evidence" to support his debunked claims about election fraud in Georgia. A caller to Giuliani's WABC radio show asked the former New York City mayor how he plans to defend himself against racketeering and other charges handed up by a Fulton County grand jury last week in a segment flagged by Raw Story.

"The first thing is, I don't think I'm giving anything away, I'm just going to tell you my strategy. I'm going to follow Mark Meadows and file as soon as I do the arraignment, I'm going to file a motion for removal to federal court, which I would say almost virtually will be granted," Giuliani claimed, even though Meadows' motion is based on the fact that he was a federal official and Giuliani had no formal government role. Legal experts have expressed skepticism that Meadows, much less Giuliani, will be able to remove the case to federal court. Giuliani then vowed to prove the baseless fraud claims. "There are things we didn't present then [in 2020] because over the next couple of years, a lot of people did a lot of work and have been able to produce more witnesses and what I would call scientific evidence that is very persuasive," he said.

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Democrats were pushing no-cash bail so hard over the past few years. Now it’s all good

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#MUGSHOT John Eastman and Scott Hall have now turned themselves into Fulton County Jail where they were processed following #TrumpIndictment4

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Floyd did not receive bond. Interesting, I wonder what makes his case different.

Apparently he assaulted an FBI agent...


Defendant in Georgia election subversion case was previously charged with assaulting FBI agent

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Harrison Floyd, one of President Donald Trump’s 18 co-defendants in the Georgia 2020 election subversion case, was charged in May for assaulting an FBI agent who came to serve him a subpoena to testify before a federal grand jury in Washington, DC.

Floyd threatened two FBI agents who served him the subpoena at his apartment in Rockville, Maryland on February 23 by running after them and “striking” one agent “chest to chest,” an affidavit states.

Floyd, a leader of the organization Black Voices for Trump, is charged with simple assault on a federal officer. 

One guy is being held so far: Harrison Floyd.

All the white guys were bailed.

The one black guy in the bunch wasn't bailed.

Regardless of the reasons (which you guess is that he assaulted a fed agent, but we don’t know), the optics are horrific.

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Kind of random question, but why hasn't Mike Lindell been charged/implicated (at least as far as we know of) in the DC or GA cases? He was just as prominent as Giuliani or Powell in the period between Election Day and January 6th.

Lindell was involved the same way OANN and Fox News were involved. He just made some public statements screaming about rigged elections and fradulent votes.  He committed no crime. he's getting sued in civil courts: that's his place

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This is the last mugshot of the 18 indicted . A priest

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Appeals court agrees to expedited review of Mark Meadows' emergency motion in Georgia election interference case

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/judge-denies-meadows-request-emergency-stay-order-related/story?id=103154410

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For all the celebration in this thread ("Trump associates are pleading guilty!!!"  "The evidence must have been devestating!!!" "WE're getting real progress" etc) ... I assumed she was now a felon

She actually pleaded guilty to some misdemeanors. Calm down dudes

 This long sprawling criminal trial would cost her a ton of money in legal fees: even Trump is relying on donations from his supporters to cover his legal fees. She's facing all kinds of civil lawsuits from people like Dominion (which she might lose or have to settle); so she needs her money.

This plea was likely more of an effort for her to get this done, save some time & money, and move on. Because believe it or not, many people in the criminal justice system plea guilty just to get it over with, not because of actual guilt

https://twitter.com/Techno_Fog/status/1715010423282429965

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They did not "overcharge", lmao. Powell absolutely knew that she'd be found guilty so she took the plea deal. It's as simple as that.

Yes . Powell was absolutely going to be found guilty .. that must be why the GA DA offered Powell low misdemeanor convictions instead of the many felonies with which Powell was charged

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Yes... that is literally how it usually goes. What are you not getting here? If anything, this shows that Powell knew she was SOL and was going to get convicted on much more serious crimes

Nope. If Powell was SOL and was going to get convicted on much more serious felony, why would the DA not insist on a plea to one of the serious felony + probation? You say it's certain that Powell was going to get convicted of the felony that she committed. So why would the DA drop down to a misdemeanor when a felony conviction was certain?

It's a staple in criminal justice law (infact, it's something many on the left rail against; but i guess this situation is an exception) - people who are charged of serious crimes often plea guilty because they don't want the spectre of a pending case hanging over them, they don't want the hassle of numerous court appearances, they don't have the money to hire quality legal counsel etc

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Powell is a little fish. They gave her an easy out in exchange for testimony against bigger fish. This happens all the time in conspiracy/racketeering trials. It’s not difficult to understand.

Is Powell really little fish though? Besides Trump, Rudy, and Meadows - Powell is probably the most recognizable person in the 19-defendant case, and she was one of the biggest faces of the "election denial" movement

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Filing alleges ‘improper’ relationship between Fulton DA, top Trump prosecutor
Fani Willis hired alleged romantic partner as special prosecutor, court motion says

District Attorney Fani Willis improperly hired an alleged romantic partner to prosecute Donald Trump and financially benefited from their relationship …. The bombshell public filing alleged that special prosecutor Nathan Wade, a private attorney, paid for lavish vacations he took with Willis using the Fulton County funds his law firm received.

https://www.ajc.com/politics/breaking-filing-alleges-improper-relationship-between-fulton-da-top-trump-prosecutor/A2N2OWCM7FFWJBQH2ORAK2BKMQ/

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https://nypost.com/2024/01/25/news/trump-lawyers-move-to-dismiss-fani-willis/

Trump lawyers move to dismiss DA Fani Willis from election fraud case, accusing her of ‘racial prejudice

Lawyers defending Trump against the 13 felony counts [claim] DA Fani Willis has made “extrajudicial public statements falsely and intentionally injecting race into this case.”
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Willis … made a speech at a historically black church Martin Luther King Jr. celebration in which she claimed her critics were attacking her and Wade because they are people of color.
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Trump’s lawyers referenced the speech in court filings Thursday, saying she had “violated her special responsibilities of a prosecutor under the Georgia Rules of Professional Conduct.”

“Her attempt to foment racial animus and prejudice against the defendants in order to divert and deflect attention away from her alleged improprieties calls out for the sanctions of dismissal and disqualification,” Steve Sadow, lead defense counsel for President Trump in the Georgia case, wrote.

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Is Fani Willis going the Michael Avennati route? I remember how the Dems were so enarmoured with Avennati that they were talking about a presidential run, kinda like how Dems saw Fani as a strong and heroic woman last year. Now, you never hear Dems talk about Avennati because of the shame. This thread has gotten more quiet since Fani's issues have come to light

https://nypost.com/2024/01/31/news/trump-prosecutor-under-probe-for-misuse-of-taxpayer-funds-fired-worker-who-exposed-federal-grant-abuse-report/

Fulton County DA Fani Willis ... is being called out by a former employee [i.e. staffer Amanda Timpson] for apparently abusing another federal grant.

Willis ... was confronted by staffer Amanda Timpson in a Nov. 19, 2021, meeting after the DA’s former campaign social media manager Michael Cuffee planned to use part of a nearly $500,000 grant for travel, computers and “swag,” according to audio obtained by the Washington Free Beacon.

“He wanted to do things with grants that were impossible, and I kept telling him, like, ‘We can’t do that,’” Timpson is heard telling Willis in the recording. “He told everybody … ‘We’re going to get MacBooks, we’re going to get swag, we’re going to use it for travel.’ I said, ‘You cannot do that, it’s a very, very specific grant.’”
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on Jan.14, 2022, Willis fired Timpson, who oversaw the office’s juvenile diversion program, and had her escorted out of the building with seven armed investigators, the ex-employee told the Free Beacon.
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“My case and Nathan Wade’s case are very similar when you break them down point by point,” Timpson told the outlet. “Ethical violations, abuse of power, and the misuse of county, state, and federal funds.”

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DA Fani Willis, prosecutor Nathan Wade should step down from Trump election fraud case: expert

“It’s a terrible look,” former federal prosecutor Neama Rahmani said of Willis’ alleged “clandestine” romantic relationship with special prosecutor Nathan Wade.

You are prosecuting probably the most politicized trial in American history. And to do something foolish like this, you are a public servant you need to make sure that people have faith in our criminal justice system,” Rahmani said.
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It’s incredibly foolish, it’s potentially unethical and maybe even criminal,” Rahmani said. “If I were her, I would say ‘I’m walking myself off from the case. Wade is no longer handling the case. The career prosecutors from my office will continue to handle it and I won’t have anything to do with it,'” the lawyer said
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Still, Rahmani said that the bid by Trump co-defendant Michael Roman to get the criminal charges against him tossed on conflict-of-interest grounds based on the alleged affair isn’t likely to succeed since it wouldn’t change “the merit of the case.”

https://nypost.com/2024/02/01/news/da-fani-willis-nathan-wade-should-step-down-from-trump-case-expert/

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I get that Trump and his proxies repeat it a lot (so of course the right eats it up), but I've yet to see any actual evidence of this alleged affair that has even the weight of, say, the allegations that Donald Trump is a child rapist

There are bank records indicating that Wade bought items, like travel tickets, for Fani (i.e. he bought the tickets in her name, and Fani used them. So we logically deduce he bought them just for her). The tickets were for trips to Miami and such, payable to agencies like "Vacation Express" and "Royal Caribbean Cruise." From that detail, we can deduce that the travel tickets were for romantic getaways, not business or platonic meetings. And Neither Fani nor Wade have publicly denied the accusations. Wade's wife has a divorce proceeding against Wade, and she alleges infidelity

Even the most fierce anti-Trump Democrats have moved away from "there is no actual evidence." The new talking point is, "So Fani is sketchy and corrupt, but it doesn't affect the facts in Trump's election case."

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Fani is in trouble now!

Jim Jordan subpoenas Trump prosecutor Fani Willis as controversy rages over her hiring of alleged lover Nathan Wade

House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jim Jordan issued a subpoena Friday to Georgia District Attorney Fani Willis requiring her to hand over documents that could pertain to her alleged affair with the man she hired to be the top prosecutor against Donald Trump.

https://nypost.com/2024/02/02/news/jim-jordan-subpoenas-trump-prosecutor-fani-willis/

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Roman’s attorney filed a response already. Wade may be lying

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/24401676-roman-reply-to-willis

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https://nypost.com/2024/02/09/news/fani-willis-accused-of-lying-about-relationship-timeline-with-trump-prosecutor-nathan-wade-bombshell-court-filing/

 New court filing. There are two witnesses who can testify that Wade and Fani began their affair before 2022 - meaning Fani lied in her prior court filing. The witnesses are Terrence Bradley (Wade’s former law partner) and Robin Yeartie (a DA employee who once lived with Fani)

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The hearing in Manhattan criminal court is indeed more imprortant. That hearing will basically determine whether they go to trial on march 25th. He should go that hearing instead

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Watching Wade -- I found his answer about receipts to be cagey. "I had no receipts." But then he says he had bank/credit card statements indicating that he traveled with Fani. So he had documentation showing that he traveled with Fani. But he went with the semantics of "receipts" vs "statements" to say "I had no receipts." Cagey fella

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LOL @ tattoo parlor in Belize

Wade while squinting his eyes suspiciously: "There was no tattoo parlor"
Attorney in response: "There is a charge for tattoo parlor in the statement"
Wade then stays silent

Wonder what he/Fani got tattooed