What do you find immoral?

[Goldwater]

None.

[Goldwater]

Okay, my answer of "none" might be a bit too simplistic, so I'll go into slightly greater detail:

Abortion: I only have a problem with late term ones.
Death penalty/; Assuming it's a case where I view it as a just punishment, I have no problems with it.
Doctor-assisted suicide: Assuming this is referring cases of terminal illness, I have no problem with it.
Sex before marriage: I have no moral issue with it.
Divorce: I have no moral issue with it.
Polygamy: I have no moral issue with it, although I think it could become problematic legally.
Pornography: I have no moral issue with it.
Birth control: I have no moral issue with it.
Teenage sex: Somewhat irresponsible in many cases, but I wouldn't call it immoral.
Homosexuality: I have no moral issue with it.
Gambling: I have no moral issue with it.
Unwed birth: I have no moral issue with it.
Stem cell research: I have no moral issue with it.
Suicide (in general): This is the one I would be most likely to check. I have a negative view of suicide in general, although I would call it a sense of pity more than a sense of morality.
Medical testing animals: I consider animal testing justified for medical research purposes.
Wearing clothes w/animal fur: I have no moral issue with it.
Cloning animals: I have no moral issue with it.
Cloning humans: I have no moral issue with the act of human cloning, although I do have some issues with some possible reasonings behind it.

[Goldwater]

Give me one good reason why you believe this.

Straight men everywhere refuse to put their peckers up another man's backside, if given the opportunity. I'd argue that an overwhelming number of straight men think male homosexuality is morally-wrong.

The problems begin when people refuse to accept the possibility of homosexual orientation, and they try to make society live according to their narrow-minded views.

I'm sure a lot of straight men think it's gross. But gross doesn't equal immoral...

[Goldwater]

None.

Glad to see you support the collapse of civil society. Wouldn't be surprised to find you approving of stealing or arson.

I would find stealing fire to be immoral, especially from a cave man.

But what if it's to spread the warmth? Think about those poor, cold cavemen without the luxury of fire!

[Goldwater]

None.

Glad to see you support the collapse of civil society. Wouldn't be surprised to find you approving of stealing or arson.

I would find stealing fire to be immoral, especially from a cave man.

But what if it's to spread the warmth? Think about those poor, cold cavemen without the luxury of fire!

Well, if you put your stick in there and take some to share will others, that's one thing, but if you take the whole thing....

Are you telling me that we should share all the fire equally?? COMMUNIST!

No, he's saying that we should only take some of the fire from the ruling class. Moderate Hero!

[Goldwater]

That's not really my point.  If you are going to ask another person to ruin their own life, there is a burden of proof on you.  For most people, "my interpretation of the Bible says so" is just a silly argument.  Would you at least admit, taking the Bible out of it, there's nothing wrong with homosexuality? 

Yes, but I would admit that for every facet of my morality from shoplifting on up through murder. If there was no God I'd be a moral nihilist.

This honestly, legitimately worries me.

[Goldwater]

That's not really my point.  If you are going to ask another person to ruin their own life, there is a burden of proof on you.  For most people, "my interpretation of the Bible says so" is just a silly argument.  Would you at least admit, taking the Bible out of it, there's nothing wrong with homosexuality? 

Yes, but I would admit that for every facet of my morality from shoplifting on up through murder. If there was no God I'd be a moral nihilist.

It's hilarious how you always whine about how we supposedly portray socons unfairly, yet you manage to come up with posts that candidly summarize basically everything that's wrong with the religious right. You perfectly explained us why your political/religious views are a mark of moral depravity.

You are aware that without a God, we all would be moral nihilists, whether we want to be or not.

What about people who are already atheists and aren't moral nihilists? And don't tell me they don't exist, I know you're smarter than that.