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Dr. MB
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« on: May 06, 2024, 01:51:15 AM »

I think it's an important question to be asked
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« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2024, 06:31:59 AM »

I'm certainly no Marxist. Or Leninist, or Stalinist, or Maoist, or Trotskyist, or Marxist-Leninist, or Dengist or... well, it would take ages to list them all, but you get the picture.
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« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2024, 08:10:00 AM »

NO!

Quote from: Ernesto "Che" Guevara
The Negro is indolent and lazy and spends his money on frivolities, whereas the European is forward-looking, organized and intelligent.

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« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2024, 11:11:19 AM »

NO!

Quote from: Ernesto
The Negro is indolent and lazy and spends his money on frivolities, whereas the European is forward-looking, organized and intelligent.



Didn't know you were a Guevara fan! Welcome to the cause, comrade.
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« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2024, 11:29:00 AM »

Obviously not.
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« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2024, 11:55:31 AM »

No. Ideologies named after a specific person are invariably too rigid and dependent on a given historical context to provide a useful guide to approaching politics in the long term. And people who attach themselves to those labels tend to be more interested in the exegesis of the Master's works than in actually applying critical analysis to new situations.

I view Marx as an important and insightful voice in the Socialist tradition, but just one such voice out of many. His elevation into quasi-Sainthood in leftist circles has generally been a detriment to the movement, and that's even before you get into the kind of regimes that trotted out his name despite sharing very little of his ideals.
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« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2024, 12:01:08 PM »

Marx is probably the most important intellectual on the left, but his views aren't so important that they should be all-encompassing. The ideology of 20th century Communism that claimed his name was a catastrophe for the human race. He had a huge blind spot when it came to religion and his views on Christianity were flat out wrong. That said, his critiques of capitalism are the foundation for most of what came after.
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« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2024, 12:04:33 PM »

No, I am obviously not.  However, I have (possibly too much) respect for those on the far left that will just admit it.  We all deserve to know if someone has ideas from ideologies like Marxism or fascism.
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« Reply #8 on: May 06, 2024, 01:35:44 PM »

Groucho, maybe.
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« Reply #9 on: May 06, 2024, 01:52:35 PM »

On religion is where I tend to reflect him the most. On principle I agree with some things, but they have yet to be executed well in practice.
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« Reply #10 on: May 06, 2024, 03:46:16 PM »

I'd label myself an anti-Marxist if I was one of those small brain violent jerks that base their existence off of the hatred of something else
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« Reply #11 on: May 06, 2024, 08:18:55 PM »

No ideology besides possibly Nazism has caused as much destruction and harm, so obviously not.
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« Reply #12 on: May 06, 2024, 08:42:52 PM »

No.
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« Reply #13 on: May 06, 2024, 11:02:53 PM »

I'd say no. Granted, I acknowledge his importance as a thinker for socialism, but at the end of the day, I disagree with him on too much to actually consider myself a Marxist.
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« Reply #14 on: May 06, 2024, 11:07:06 PM »

Only in opposition to fascism and Objectivism/Libertarianism in a world where ideology is truly " Team Sports" and those are the matches.

But I don't see ideology that way, so no. [Yes, I'm aware that this itself is an ideology]
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« Reply #15 on: May 06, 2024, 11:54:58 PM »

Not usually.
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« Reply #16 on: May 07, 2024, 08:06:44 PM »

i wouldnt say its the primary way i identify ideologically but i cant really say that im not a marxist either so sure ig
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« Reply #17 on: May 08, 2024, 10:05:15 AM »

-Isms are tools in an analytical toolkit, not dogmas.
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« Reply #18 on: May 08, 2024, 10:42:57 AM »

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« Reply #19 on: May 08, 2024, 10:46:52 AM »

i wouldnt say its the primary way i identify ideologically but i cant really say that im not a marxist either so sure ig

This for me.
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« Reply #20 on: May 08, 2024, 12:03:22 PM »

If the 20th century taught us anything, it's that the capitalist system will eventually replace the socialist system; this is the objective law independent of man's will. However much the reactionaries try to hold back the wheel of history, eventually revolution will take place and will inevitably triumph.
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« Reply #21 on: May 08, 2024, 05:25:41 PM »

No, never have been and never will, but Marxist analysis can indeed be useful at times.
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« Reply #22 on: May 08, 2024, 05:34:55 PM »

No ideology besides possibly Nazism has caused as much destruction and harm, so obviously not.

Capitalism has killed vastly more people in the world than Marxism or any socialist ideology
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« Reply #23 on: May 08, 2024, 05:43:48 PM »
« Edited: May 08, 2024, 05:47:05 PM by ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ »

During the Cultural revolution in China, they were going after academics. Funny enough, lots of math professors were suddenly studying nonstandard analysis of infinitesimal numbers since Karl Marx had written a calculus textbook using infinitesimal numbers (rather than the normal epsilon delta formulation) so that they could all say they were good Marxists.
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« Reply #24 on: May 08, 2024, 06:19:26 PM »

Well, it depends. If it is necessary to support the soviet economic and political model to be a Marxist, I am not. But Marx passed away 34 years before the Russian Revolution, so, we don't know how would he think about the soviet model.

But I agree with Marx that the class fight is a big engine of the history, money is not only a tool to make easier the exchanges but also the goal of the accumulation, the surplus value is the origin of the profits in the capitalist economy and capitalism produces high concentration of income and wealth and cycles of growth periods and crisis.
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