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Question: Should R-rated movies be allowed to be shown in high schools?
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« on: November 01, 2007, 03:44:03 PM »

Yes. I actually saw three in high school: The Matrix, Saving Private Ryan and Boiler Room. We didn't even need parental permission.
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« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2007, 09:34:04 PM »

As a general rule, no.  I find it difficult to believe that most Hollywood movies R-rated or not would be relevant to the curriculum.  Other than movies relevant to the curriculum I can't see why they'd be shown.  Of the three movies mentioned: The Matrix, Saving Private Ryan and Boiler Room, the only one I could see as being relevant would be Saving Private Ryan if you had a lazy-assed athletic coach as a history teacher.

Boiler Room was in Economics.

I can't even remember what class The Matrix was in. It was because there was only a few days before Christmas Break and no one wanted to do any assignments or actual schoolwork, including the teacher.
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« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2007, 03:09:45 PM »

X-rated movies don't exist anymore. Why are so many people ignorant of the rating system?
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« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2007, 03:29:28 PM »
« Edited: November 04, 2007, 03:33:29 PM by Scattered Blue Light »

Well I grew up in the NC-17 era and even I've probably heard "X-rated" far more often than "NC-17 rated'. Because X sounds better than NC-17... I guess it's become a part of the cultural lexicon.

X-"rated" movies though are just pornos using that as an advertising gimmick. There is no official X-rating, and there never really was one (pre-NC-17 X was really just a way of signifying that it wasn't rated because the content was too hard for an R. The MPAA never trademarked it.) I could make a five minute video of cars parking around my apartment's parking lot and call it X if I wanted to. Similarily, no one would call Kids or Requiem for a Dream X-rated movies, the term is really just slang to refer to porn. And worth noting that even Midnight Cowboy is now rated R, and really would have no trouble getting an R if it was released today. In fact I believe the only non-porn film ever labeled X that does NOT have an R today and has an NC-17 is 1900.
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« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2007, 02:19:20 PM »

As a general rule, no.  I find it difficult to believe that most Hollywood movies R-rated or not would be relevant to the curriculum.  Other than movies relevant to the curriculum I can't see why they'd be shown.  Of the three movies mentioned: The Matrix, Saving Private Ryan and Boiler Room, the only one I could see as being relevant would be Saving Private Ryan if you had a lazy-assed athletic coach as a history teacher.

Boiler Room was in Economics.

Why the sh*t would a teacher show Boiler Room in an econ class??

Because the teacher was lazy? It is somewhat economics related granted, albeit not very educational...
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« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2007, 10:10:53 PM »

BTW the origin of a few of these words are as follows

Fornicate under Consent of the King - because one used to have to get permission to have a child from the king.

Wrong.
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« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2007, 01:25:34 PM »

They are, but they're better the Hays Code, so kind of a necessary evil.

I've thought up a reform of the rating system:

G & PG - basically the same as now.
PG-13 - This basically would cover only "lite" PG-13s, like those teen comedies with it (Legally Blonde and the like). Same as it is now in who can go in.
PG-13+ - This implies a "harder" PG-13, like those movies with lots of violence (Bourne movies, Aeon Flux, Live Free or Die Hard), PG-13 horror movies (The Ring, Dark Water) or some of the more crude comedies (Dude, Where's My Car?). I'd also add "soft" R movies like The Matrix and the type of movie with no real explicit sex or violence but still gets an R just because it uses "f**k" six times in this category too. Treated the way R movies are now (supposedly), you need a parent to go in if you're under 13.

"BUT WAIT! Doesn't this restrict access further? That's out of character for you BRTD?"

Well yes, it does. But it's also at least more fair than the current system which lumps the "soft" R movies in what follows next, thus restricting access for those 13-17, which isn't really fair since the main justification you hear for those movies being rated R is "OK, maybe it's alright for a 15 year old, but an 11 year old?" type deal. Besides, most parents haven't had a problem with their kids in that age bracket watching those "soft" Rs from what I've seen anyway, so it's even more efficient from the parents' perspective.

R - This would be movies a step above the "soft R" movies listed before. The restrictions are the same as PG-13+ though. Movies like Harold & Kumar, the American Pie series, and the first Die Hard movies would be in this category.

R+ - These are the absolute "hardest" Rs, plus NC-17s. Saw series, most of Tarantino's movies, Bully (I still have no clue how that movie pulled off an R, I've seen movies originally labeled NC-17 that look like PG in comparison, including Clark's earlier Kids. Yet more evidence of the idiocy of the MPAA.) all fall under here. Restrictions the same as the current R. NO NC-17 rating, as that serves as nothing more than de facto censorship. Also if the parents don't have a problem with their 16 year old watching the movie, why shouldn't they be allowed to?

Not perfect (no rating system ever will be), but more fair than the current system.
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