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« Reply #2200 on: April 27, 2024, 07:25:04 PM »
You would hope with all the dozens of meetings he's had with the prosecutors they would have done a mock cross to prepare him
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« Reply #2201 on: April 27, 2024, 07:36:46 PM »
Quote from: emailking on March 28, 2024, 06:02:01 PM
Quote from: Fmr. Gov. NickG on March 28, 2024, 05:02:05 PM
If the DA believes Trump committed election interference under NY state law, why isn't he charged with election interference in the indictment?

The DA may not believe he committed election interference under NY state law. The DA may believe he committed election interference under NY state law but may think there is not proof beyond a reasonable doubt that he did. The DA may believe he committed election interference under NY state law and think there is proof beyond a reasonable doubt that he did but may think a jury will not be convinced that there is proof beyond a reasonable doubt that he did. The DA may believe he committed election interference but is using his prosecutorial discretion to charge what he believes is his strongest case so as not to overcharge. It's probably 1 of those.

Oh also, now we know: workable business records statute-of-limitations:
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« Reply #2202 on: April 28, 2024, 12:46:02 PM »
« Edited: April 28, 2024, 01:00:29 PM by brucejoel99 »



Quote from: emailking on April 27, 2024, 07:25:04 PM
You would hope with all the dozens of meetings he's had with the prosecutors they would have done a mock cross to prepare him

Also, if all that the prosecution had was just Cohen, then there'd be a problem! But with them having Pecker, & all of these other solidly corroborating witnesses, not to mention all of the contemporary documentation that they have, this is frankly - if indeed the verdict that's ultimately rendered by the jury - a conviction capable of withstanding being upheld on appeal:
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« Reply #2203 on: April 29, 2024, 06:41:54 AM »
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« Reply #2204 on: April 29, 2024, 06:49:37 AM »

...Hopefully...
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« Reply #2205 on: April 29, 2024, 11:10:11 PM »
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« Reply #2206 on: April 29, 2024, 11:11:43 PM »
I keep misreading this topic title as Trump on trail.
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« Reply #2207 on: April 29, 2024, 11:15:29 PM »
Quote from: emailking on April 29, 2024, 11:11:43 PM
I keep misreading this topic title as Trump on trail.

NY: Trump on Trial! The other 49 States + DC: Trump off Trail!
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« Reply #2208 on: April 30, 2024, 08:45:08 AM »
Trump found in contempt in 9 of the 10 alleged gag order violations, fined $1000 (the statutory max fine) for each one.

More interestingly: is this a state crime?  If so, does it violate his release conditions in his federal trials?
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« Reply #2209 on: April 30, 2024, 08:46:16 AM »
Also, Judge Merchan has excused Trump from attending on May 17 to attend his son Barron's high school graduation (thus ending one of the right-wing outrage storms).
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« Reply #2210 on: April 30, 2024, 08:48:19 AM »

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« Reply #2211 on: April 30, 2024, 08:55:07 AM »
Quote from: GeorgiaModerate on April 30, 2024, 08:45:08 AM
More interestingly: is this a state crime?  If so, does it violate his release conditions in his federal trials?

Technically, yes & yes, but enforcement his conditions of release would be discretionary (i.e., a warrant "may be" issued for his arrest if he commits any federal, state or local crimes while out on bail).
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« Reply #2212 on: April 30, 2024, 09:06:31 AM »
« Edited: April 30, 2024, 09:15:02 AM by brucejoel99 »

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« Reply #2213 on: April 30, 2024, 09:16:27 AM »
« Edited: April 30, 2024, 09:20:09 AM by Sir Mohamed »
I'm now just waiting for Trump to print this order on a T-Shirt with the "NEVER SURRENDER" headline and sell them for $99 each. Would make the perfect grift.
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« Reply #2214 on: April 30, 2024, 09:18:23 AM »
Quote from: GeorgiaModerate on April 30, 2024, 08:48:19 AM



How could higher fines follow if $1000 is the max?
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« Reply #2215 on: April 30, 2024, 09:24:24 AM »

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« Reply #2216 on: April 30, 2024, 09:35:38 AM »
I also wonder why Engoron was able to do a $5000 fine and then a $10000 fine for gag order violations, maybe it's different for a civil case?
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« Reply #2217 on: April 30, 2024, 09:40:02 AM »
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« Reply #2218 on: April 30, 2024, 10:05:48 AM »
Quote from: brucejoel99 on April 30, 2024, 08:55:07 AM
Quote from: GeorgiaModerate on April 30, 2024, 08:45:08 AM
More interestingly: is this a state crime?  If so, does it violate his release conditions in his federal trials?

Technically, yes & yes, but enforcement his conditions of release would be discretionary (i.e., a warrant "may be" issued for his arrest if he commits any federal, state or local crimes while out on bail).

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« Reply #2219 on: April 30, 2024, 10:15:03 AM »
Cohen I believe has gone dark until his testimony so I don't think that's a problem for now. Don't know about Stormy.
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« Reply #2220 on: April 30, 2024, 10:20:00 AM »
Quote from: emailking on April 30, 2024, 10:15:03 AM
Cohen I believe has gone dark until his testimony so I don't think that's a problem for now. Don't know about Stormy.
If she's cooperating with the prosecution, I'm sure they'll advise her to go similarly dark.
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« Reply #2221 on: April 30, 2024, 10:28:30 AM »




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« Reply #2222 on: April 30, 2024, 11:05:18 AM »

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« Reply #2223 on: April 30, 2024, 12:08:14 PM »
He's going to need an intern or something to give him the links to use to delete. It is functionally painful to scroll through his timeline more than a couple days.
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« Reply #2224 on: April 30, 2024, 12:09:42 PM »
He's got an hour and 7 minutes left. I'd bet against it happening.
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