America's Greatest President of the 19th Century

[Хahar 🤔]

Even though the United States was founded on the idea of secession?

Mmmm... hmmm... not exactly. But that's an entirely seperate issue.

Virginia, Rhode Island, and New York were admitted to the Union under the pretext that they could secede at any time.

But in the election of 1836, the electorate gave its approval of the death of secession.

[The Dowager Mod]

Jefferson by a long shot.  Lincoln and Buchanan were by far the worst.  It's a shame we've all been brainwashed to believe Lincoln was one of the best Presidents.

Agreed.

[SPC]

Even though the United States was founded on the idea of secession?

Mmmm... hmmm... not exactly. But that's an entirely seperate issue.

Virginia, Rhode Island, and New York were admitted to the Union under the pretext that they could secede at any time.

But in the election of 1836, the electorate gave its approval of the death of secession.

How do you figure?

[specific_name]

Even though the United States was founded on the idea of secession?

Mmmm... hmmm... not exactly. But that's an entirely seperate issue.

Virginia, Rhode Island, and New York were admitted to the Union under the pretext that they could secede at any time.

But in the election of 1836, the electorate gave its approval of the death of secession.

Shouldn't the question here be.... Is it worth having a war to stop a group of states from striking off on their own? This is one of those arguments that could go on forever. I don't see the rationale, but apparently some do.

[Хahar 🤔]

Even though the United States was founded on the idea of secession?

Mmmm... hmmm... not exactly. But that's an entirely seperate issue.

Virginia, Rhode Island, and New York were admitted to the Union under the pretext that they could secede at any time.

But in the election of 1836, the electorate gave its approval of the death of secession.

How do you figure?

1832, my bad. But I'm referring to Andrew Jackson's handling of nullification. If the electorate didn't like it and wanted to preserve states' rights, they could have thrown out Jackson and replaced him with Clay.

[SPC]

Even though the United States was founded on the idea of secession?

Mmmm... hmmm... not exactly. But that's an entirely seperate issue.

Virginia, Rhode Island, and New York were admitted to the Union under the pretext that they could secede at any time.

But in the election of 1836, the electorate gave its approval of the death of secession.

How do you figure?

1832, my bad. But I'm referring to Andrew Jackson's handling of nullification. If the electorate didn't like it and wanted to preserve states' rights, they could have thrown out Jackson and replaced him with Clay.

Clay wasn't a fan of states' rights either.

[Хahar 🤔]

Even though the United States was founded on the idea of secession?

Mmmm... hmmm... not exactly. But that's an entirely seperate issue.

Virginia, Rhode Island, and New York were admitted to the Union under the pretext that they could secede at any time.

But in the election of 1836, the electorate gave its approval of the death of secession.

How do you figure?

1832, my bad. But I'm referring to Andrew Jackson's handling of nullification. If the electorate didn't like it and wanted to preserve states' rights, they could have thrown out Jackson and replaced him with Clay.

Clay wasn't a fan of states' rights either.

But he had become that, to please the states' rights folks.