Hypothetical Presidential Election 1968: RFK vs. Rockefeller

[White Trash]

Wallace, and I ain't apologizing for it.

What was the main draw to Wallace?  I'm assuming it's not his economically populist campaign or his desire to get out of Vietnam ... just love that racism?

Wasn't Wallace a hawk in regards to Vietnam?

I feel like that's pretty rumored to be true now a days, but I remember reading that he said he had a strict 90-day window before all troops were withdrawn if the war wasn't winnable (and most Americans weren't seeing it as a winnable war by 1968).

That's pretty Dovish compared to Johnson and Scoop Jackson. So he wasn't in the hawkish wing of the Democratic party. That's the thing about George Wallace. I really don't believe that he actually believed a damn word he said. The segregation, the race-baiting, the economic populism, I think that was all just political opportunism.

When it boils down to it, I don't think Wallace was a racist. A despicable opportunist who used racism to gain power, yes. But a through and through white supremacist? I have a hard time believing that.

[Unconditional Surrender Truman]

When it boils down to it, I don't think Wallace was a racist. A despicable opportunist who used racism to gain power, yes. But a through and through white supremacist? I have a hard time believing that.

Does it really matter, though? I mean, whether you deny blacks equal rights because you're racist or because you're a power-hungry b*stard with no principles makes little difference to the people who stand to suffer for those policies.

[Kingpoleon]

Governors from New York seem hated on this forum

Nah, just ol' Rocky

And Cuomo. And Spitzer. And Paterson. And Pataki.

[White Trash]

When it boils down to it, I don't think Wallace was a racist. A despicable opportunist who used racism to gain power, yes. But a through and through white supremacist? I have a hard time believing that.

Does it really matter, though? I mean, whether you deny blacks equal rights because you're racist or because you're a power-hungry b*stard with no principles makes little difference to the people who stand to suffer for those policies.

Oh no, I totally agree. It's just strange to think that Wallace could've been two steps to the left of McGovern if given the right circumstances. If Montgomery, Alabama had the demographics and views of Frisco Bay, then Wallace could've made Hunter S. Thompson look like Barry Goldwater.

[Comrade Funk]

Governors from New York seem hated on this forum

Nah, just ol' Rocky

And Cuomo. And Spitzer. And Paterson. And Pataki.

But there's always the Roosevelt boys.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

RFK (dislike the Kennedys, dislike Rocky and the race-baiter more).

[Mr. Smith]

Governors from New York seem hated on this forum

Nah, just ol' Rocky

And Cuomo. And Spitzer. And Paterson. And Pataki.

Cuomo Sr, Al Smith, Hughes, and The Roosevelts are well liked.

And no one gives a crap about Carey, Harriman, or Dewey.