BREAKING: Trump Fires Comey

[The_Doctor]

The Democrats would not impeach Trump and it would be suicidal to talk about it. Even talking about it would result in a civil war in the party that causes a number of us to switch to the GOP.

Yes because impeaching a highly unpopular president who is undergoing an active FBI investigation into his campaign's ties with Russia will cause a Democratic civil war…

[The_Doctor]

Let's take a step back and look at the history books of 2050. This is how this week will look.

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This is the literal objective historical record. This is what the Trump people here on this board are defending today. Winning is so much more important than explaining to the generation of 2050 why you supported this.

Aside from EnglishPete who is some sort of British UKIP person and JJC. who is -- well, to put it kindly, a bit overly dramatic about his hate of Democrats and “anti-illegal immigrants,” virtually all the Trump Republicans haven't made a defense of this. They know they'd be roundly mocked for it.

I'm pretty sure that deep down these supporters know that Trump reflects badly on them and they care more about winning against the Left in a series of ephemeral battles rather than actually supporting him. This was a lot of their reasons for supporting Trump: beat Hillary at all costs. That's their principles, essentially: a pleasure over beating the Left instead of advancing a series of goals.

[The_Doctor]

I doubt he personally collaborated with Russia. He isn't competent enough for that.

It's the stealth that's hurting him. His actions make it look like he has something to hide....even if he doesn't. 

No, it is 'delaying' that hurts him badly. He needs a fast investigation regardless the results (so did Hillary). RussiaGate has actually fewer indication of wrongdoing than HerEmails&Benghazi. And those two were obvious nothing-burgers.

I mean, I've totally got (game theory behind) why Democrats want this investigation to take years and years. GOP did the same (to Hillary) and succeed (ruined her image). Emails&Benghazi were totally bs, so is Russia thing.

So tell us, why is he stonewalling and firing the FBI director and refusing an independent prosecutor? They would clear him and give him a huge victory over the Left if he allowed a full investigation with all the resources needed.

[The_Doctor]

Yeah the FBI really hated Comey http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/fbi-agents-james-comey-change-profile-photos-a7730496.html

The FBI is probably not the best organization to make into your enemy.

La Cosa Nostra found this out the hard way. You'd think, as someone who has built things in NY, Trump would know why

Yeah, now the FBI sees Trump with more hostile eyes than they used to. Which could be rather important going forward. The intelligence community, the FBI, both disdaining Trump could be an instrumental step in Trump becoming a failed President. After all, every great successful President has known that they need to win the support of the establishment to succeed. And what's more powerful and establishment than the national security complex & law enforcement agencies? They're also two major Republican - friendly groups. Notably, they backed George W. Bush fairly well in 2000 (I don't remember about Reagan) and traditionally, the national security and law enforcement groups have been associated with the Republican Party.

The outcome of this week may be that the anti-Trump forces may have gained a powerful ally in the FBI although that stuff is not going to play out overnight.

Comey is a strong patriot who is well aware of the classified material around Trump relating to his businesses and his Russian ties. I would imagine Comey will not let that die down easily. Neither will his allies in the FBI who feel he was pushed out.

[The_Doctor]

Trump's going on a Twitter rampage again, guys!

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 24m24 minutes ago 
...Maybe the best thing to do would be to cancel all future "press briefings" and hand out written responses for the sake of accuracy???

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 5m5 minutes ago 
James Comey better hope that there are no "tapes" of our conversations before he starts leaking to the press!

Oh geez Donald....just shut up already.

Donnie you're out of your element.

No no Donnie keep talking!

[The_Doctor]

Can this thread become the "Trump / Comey / Coverup" thread? (Gass might want to edit it)

[The_Doctor]

Can this thread become the 'Russiaism is the new Birtherism' thread? (Gass might want to edit it)

The key difference, Obama provided a long form birth certificate while Trump stonewalls and fires the Director in charge of said investigation and says he wants to "lengthen it." Amirite?

[The_Doctor]

Trump to Fox on whether he asked Comey for loyalty pledge: "I didnt, but I don’t think it would be a bad question to ask"
https://twitter.com/JohnJHarwood/status/863128759855181826

the man is just stupid.....

And he keeps talking and talking… .

[The_Doctor]

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Now we're talking!

Just 50 votes right? And it has to pass the House too?

[The_Doctor]

lol...Republicans have always used the same talking points:

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Yup why DJT will leave office in 2019 not 2017. It will take a long time to push him out. Lots of people to convince and rightfully so. Removing a president should not be easy.