Election Discussion

[Democratic Hawk]

I've been mentioned on four ballots so far

It's leftwing fruit job syndrome [jk]

Dave 'Hawk'

[TomC]

*checking numbers*

And in the SE free for all for Governor...

Governor
Sam Spade of Puerto Rico- 5
Captain Vlad of Texas- 4
Harry of Mississippi- 7
Ron Dubya of Texas-2
Bacon King of Georgia- 2
Htmldon of Tennessee- 1
Ian of Mississippi- 1
Josh22 of North Carolina- 2
King of Alabama- 1
Mike Naso of Texas- 1
Nclib of North Carolina- 1
Cosmo Kramer of Arkansas- 1
StatesRights of Florida- 2
John Dibble of Georgia- 1

Lt Governor
Sam Spade of Puerto Rico- 8
Harry of Mississippi- 2
htmldon of tennessee- 3
Ebowed- 1
Q- 1
Bono- 1
Last voter: John Dibble

[© tweed]

And in the SE free for all for Governor...

Governor
Sam Spade of Texas- 3
Captain Vlad of Texas- 3
Harry of Mississippi- 3
Ron Dubya of Texas-2
Bacon King of Georgia- 1
Htmldon of Tennessee- 1
Ian of Mississippi- 1
Josh22 of North Carolina- 1
King of Alabama- 1
Mike Naso of Texas- 1
Nclib of North Carolina- 1
Cosmo Kramer of Arkansas- 1
StatesRights of Florida- 1

Lt Governor
Sam Spade of Texas- 4
Harry of Mississippi- 2
htmldon of tennessee- 3

What if the same guy wins both Governor and Lt. Governor?  Does he get to hold both positions?

[MasterJedi]

And in the SE free for all for Governor...

Governor
Sam Spade of Texas- 3
Captain Vlad of Texas- 3
Harry of Mississippi- 3
Ron Dubya of Texas-2
Bacon King of Georgia- 1
Htmldon of Tennessee- 1
Ian of Mississippi- 1
Josh22 of North Carolina- 1
King of Alabama- 1
Mike Naso of Texas- 1
Nclib of North Carolina- 1
Cosmo Kramer of Arkansas- 1
StatesRights of Florida- 1

Lt Governor
Sam Spade of Texas- 4
Harry of Mississippi- 2
htmldon of tennessee- 3

What if the same guy wins both Governor and Lt. Governor?  Does he get to hold both positions?

You know that's impossible, he'd have to choose one.

[© tweed]

And in the SE free for all for Governor...

Governor
Sam Spade of Texas- 3
Captain Vlad of Texas- 3
Harry of Mississippi- 3
Ron Dubya of Texas-2
Bacon King of Georgia- 1
Htmldon of Tennessee- 1
Ian of Mississippi- 1
Josh22 of North Carolina- 1
King of Alabama- 1
Mike Naso of Texas- 1
Nclib of North Carolina- 1
Cosmo Kramer of Arkansas- 1
StatesRights of Florida- 1

Lt Governor
Sam Spade of Texas- 4
Harry of Mississippi- 2
htmldon of tennessee- 3

What if the same guy wins both Governor and Lt. Governor?  Does he get to hold both positions?

You know that's impossible, he'd have to choose one.

Who knows?  It depends what the southeastern constitution says.

[TomC]

And in the SE free for all for Governor...

Governor
Sam Spade of Texas- 3
Captain Vlad of Texas- 3
Harry of Mississippi- 3
Ron Dubya of Texas-2
Bacon King of Georgia- 1
Htmldon of Tennessee- 1
Ian of Mississippi- 1
Josh22 of North Carolina- 1
King of Alabama- 1
Mike Naso of Texas- 1
Nclib of North Carolina- 1
Cosmo Kramer of Arkansas- 1
StatesRights of Florida- 1

Lt Governor
Sam Spade of Texas- 4
Harry of Mississippi- 2
htmldon of tennessee- 3

What if the same guy wins both Governor and Lt. Governor?  Does he get to hold both positions?

You know that's impossible, he'd have to choose one.

Who knows?  It depends what the southeastern constitution says.

"8. The Governor shall not be able to serve in any other public office in the forum at the same time at which he/she is serving as Governor."

[Sam Spade]

Well, one thing's for sure.  You can't fault the SE for not having interesting elections.

[TomC]

Well, one thing's for sure.  You can't fault the SE for not having interesting elections.

Yeah, I thought the NE was stealing our title, but we're back, baby!

[TomC]

Two questions, just because I love the picky details so much:

1. Did the Southeast ever accept Puerto Rico as a part of its boundaries?

"The consent of the Regions being changed is required." (Article IV)

2. I don't see that a Gov or Lt. Gov must be from a SE state. Does anyone know if that is a requirement?

[bgwah]

Well, one thing's for sure.  You can't fault the SE for not having interesting elections.

Yeah, I thought the NE was stealing our title, but we're back, baby!

Pacific: most boring elections for over two years and counting.

Nobody is even challenging WMS, so hah.

[WMS]

Pacific: most boring elections for over two years and counting.

Nobody is even challenging WMS, so hah.

Much to my surprise, actually...

You all couldn't be more wrong Everett/TexasGurl doesn't have 2 prefs... They have 3

By the way, you are registered in Rhode Island yet voted in the Pacific race.  That will invalidate your vote.  You should see if you can switch to vote in the Northeast race where you're registered.

Precedent says that he can't.  That baby was fixed in the Electoral System Reform Act, but it was mixed in with the part that implemented FPTP and which was rejected in a referendum in favor of the IRV system, so it got thrown out with the bathwater.

That only applies to my Senate vot not my Presidential vote correct?

correct.  Technically, you have cast a write-in for WMS for the Northeast Senate race, but since he is not a resident of the Northeast, he can't be our Senator, even if he were to accept the votes.  I'm not certain what would happen if he were to accept the write-in votes and win, but since I doubt that would happen I won't worry about it. (This being Atlasia, I'm not certain it would never happen,)

I thought I fixed this with this amendment?

Although the idea of holding two Senate seats at once is extremely amusing for some reason

Edit: My presidential vote most definitely had a tactical element to it - I really don't dislike any of the tickets, although clearly I have my favorite.

[Peter]

1. Did the Southeast ever accept Puerto Rico as a part of its boundaries?

"The consent of the Regions being changed is required." (Article IV)

It didn't make such an acceptance AFAIK and I do not believe it is required by the Constitution.

The Fifth Amendment states:

The following clause is added to Article IV, Section 2 of the Constitution:

6. The Senate may by law admit new States to the Republic of Atlasia. The Senate may apportion this State to a Region and a District via proper legislation; however, the State shall still be liable to all the provisions of this Section and Section 4 of this Article.
The consent clause of IV,2,3 only applies when a State is being transferred between Regions, not when one is being added. This is textually backed up by the use of plurals - clearly when a State is added, it only affects one Region. Clauses 2 through 4 of IV,2 seem to describe one Region change procedure and are self contained, whilst clause 5 and the added clause 6 seem to describe other procedures.

[TomC]

1. Did the Southeast ever accept Puerto Rico as a part of its boundaries?

"The consent of the Regions being changed is required." (Article IV)

It didn't make such an acceptance AFAIK and I do not believe it is required by the Constitution.

The Fifth Amendment states:

The following clause is added to Article IV, Section 2 of the Constitution:

6. The Senate may by law admit new States to the Republic of Atlasia. The Senate may apportion this State to a Region and a District via proper legislation; however, the State shall still be liable to all the provisions of this Section and Section 4 of this Article.
The consent clause of IV,2,3 only applies when a State is being transferred between Regions, not when one is being added. This is textually backed up by the use of plurals - clearly when a State is added, it only affects one Region. Clauses 2 through 4 of IV,2 seem to describe one Region change procedure and are self contained, whilst clause 5 and the added clause 6 seem to describe other procedures.

Good to know, thanks! (constitution aside, though, it still seems to be the region should be allowed to have a say if a new state is going to be added to it.)

[The Dowager Mod]

Gurl power is doing pretty good for a write in.

[Hatman 🍁]

Ebowed you made an error. You forgot to add my vote to yourself after the first round. The last round is 21-16 for yourself, as I have already reported.

[Sam Spade]

1. Did the Southeast ever accept Puerto Rico as a part of its boundaries?

"The consent of the Regions being changed is required." (Article IV)

It didn't make such an acceptance AFAIK and I do not believe it is required by the Constitution.

The Fifth Amendment states:

The following clause is added to Article IV, Section 2 of the Constitution:

6. The Senate may by law admit new States to the Republic of Atlasia. The Senate may apportion this State to a Region and a District via proper legislation; however, the State shall still be liable to all the provisions of this Section and Section 4 of this Article.
The consent clause of IV,2,3 only applies when a State is being transferred between Regions, not when one is being added. This is textually backed up by the use of plurals - clearly when a State is added, it only affects one Region. Clauses 2 through 4 of IV,2 seem to describe one Region change procedure and are self contained, whilst clause 5 and the added clause 6 seem to describe other procedures.

Good to know, thanks! (constitution aside, though, it still seems to be the region should be allowed to have a say if a new state is going to be added to it.)

Fwiw, I'll most likely be moving from Puerto Rico to another Southeastern state after the election, when I legally can.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Unoffical Senate Results as of Winfield:

Mideast
8 - MasterJedi

Midwest
5 - Jas
4 - BRTD

Northeast
4 - 4 - 5 - jerusalemcar5
3 - 3 - 3 - Harry Hayfield
3 - 3 - X - Ernest (eliminated in 2nd round due to fewer total preferences)
1 - X - X - NixonNow
1 - 2 - 4 - None

Pacific
3 - WMS
1 - None

Southeast
6 - Captain Vlad
6 - Jake
1 - NOTA

[YRABNNRM]

So I guess one voter that could've made a difference in the Northeast election threw away his vote. It's not like a huge write in campaign for Bullmoose is going to start up in two days (unfortunatly).

[Hatman 🍁]

Ebowed has been re-elected.

[King]

FOOLS! I SHALL PUT A PLAGUE ON ALL YOUR HOUSES!

[Ebowed]

President/Vice President

1. True Democrat (Pennsylvania) / Supersoulty (Pennsylvania)

Dubya and M&C, ya'll win be my 2nd preference.

[jerusalemcar5]

President/Vice President

1. True Democrat (Pennsylvania) / Supersoulty (Pennsylvania)

Dubya and M&C, ya'll win be my 2nd preference.

OOOO, good one Ebowed.  Care to explain Preston?

[jokerman]

President/Vice President

1. True Democrat (Pennsylvania) / Supersoulty (Pennsylvania)

Dubya and M&C, ya'll win be my 2nd preference.

OOOO, good one Ebowed.  Care to explain Preston?

oh sh**t you got me

[Ebowed]

President/Vice President

1. True Democrat (Pennsylvania) / Supersoulty (Pennsylvania)

Dubya and M&C, ya'll win be my 2nd preference.

OOOO, good one Ebowed.  Care to explain Preston?

oh sh**t you got me

Yes, yes, you didn't have any credibility to begin with.  It's OK.

[7,052,770]

I hope Harry wins!