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« on: October 15, 2013, 10:08:44 AM »

Even if you apply a correction factor based on their 2012 presidential results this still has Snyder with a 5 point or so lead, which while not dominating is still very good news for Synder.
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« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2013, 11:11:11 AM »

Well if they are consistently junky by roughly the same amount each time, then their polls would still be useful.
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« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2013, 11:44:59 AM »

Even if you apply a correction factor based on their 2012 presidential results this still has Snyder with a 5 point or so lead, which while not dominating is still very good news for Synder.

If Snyder is ahead, let's say 45-40 against an unknown opponent, then I'd say this isn't an especially encouraging showing for an incumbent.

Considering that polls from the first half of the year had that same unknown opponent in the lead, this is quite encouraging for Snyder.

We have established time and time again, literally everytime they release a poll, that MIRSNews is massively junky. Why do their polls even get posted anymore?
I've never seen an MIRSNews poll before this one. Krazen posts sh**tty polls to rile us up.

MIRSNews isn't the pollster, but the one who commissioned it. It was jointly done by Marketing Resource Group and Mitchell Research & Communications.  In the 2012 Presidential race Mitchell did the polls for the Detroit News that showed Michigan to be basically a tied raced, MRG's polls also skewed significantly Republican, but not as badly as Mitchell's did.
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« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2013, 12:16:10 PM »

Even if you apply a correction factor based on their 2012 presidential results this still has Snyder with a 5 point or so lead, which while not dominating is still very good news for Synder.

If Snyder is ahead, let's say 45-40 against an unknown opponent, then I'd say this isn't an especially encouraging showing for an incumbent.

Considering that polls from the first half of the year had that same unknown opponent in the lead, this is quite encouraging for Snyder.

It would have been if we had trendlines from this pollster.

Is not the bolded part above a trend, even if it is not for this specific race?  Even tho krazen is being his usual hyperbolic self, trying to shrug this off or not recognize this as bad news for the Democrats is ludicrous.
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« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2013, 04:26:14 PM »

Is not the bolded part above a trend, even if it is not for this specific race?  Even tho krazen is being his usual hyperbolic self, trying to shrug this off or not recognize this as bad news for the Democrats is ludicrous.

A single poll of dubious quality is bad news for Democrats? Now, that's a bit hyperbolic.

No.  Hyperbolic would be believing that Snyder actually has a 14 point lead right now.  But even accounting for the strong R tilt of the previous polls by these firms in other Michigan races, it's clear that Snyder has improved his standing.

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That Snyder can afford to do an ad blitz this far out doesn't concern you?  Of course the reason for it was no doubt to improve his numbers to forestall someone primarying him on the issue of electability.  That it worked suggested that Snyder was never as down as the Democrats hoped.
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« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2013, 10:02:57 PM »

This same poll has Land leading by 1 point, which is unlikely, so the whole thing is junk.

Considering that Mitchell (one of the two firms involved in this poll) had Land leading by 3 points in an August poll and the highest margin Peters has had in any poll by any firm is only 5 points, them showing Land with only a 1 point lead is good news for Peters, but hardly suggests that the poll is wholly junk once you account for its tilt.
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