Quebec Municipal Elections 2013

[MaxQue]

I'm surprised he didn't resign tomorrow, to be hidden in the US election news.

[MaxQue]

Radio-Canada is saying than the council must elect a mayor in the 30 next days. Michael Applebaum (president of the executive council, mayor of Côte-des-Neiges--Notre-Dame-de-Grâce) and the 2 vice-presidents of the executive council (Alan DeSousa and Richard Deschamps) would be interested.

http://www.radio-canada.ca/regions/Montreal/2012/11/05/011-gerald_tremblay-demission-maire_de_montreal.shtml

[RogueBeaver]

Coderre: No announcement till April.

http://www.montrealgazette.com/Coderre+throw+into+mayoralty+ring/7527537/story.html

[MaxQue]

Talking of that, there is a by-election in Rivière-des-Prairies on November 11.

It should be a safe UM hold (was 60-23-17, UM-VM-PM in 2009), but trends could indicate things (or not, given the specific ethnic composition of that area).

It should have been an easy UM hold, but, it wasn't.

Vision Montreal gained it by 99 votes.

37-35-39 VM-UM-PM. I think than we can safely say than Union Montréal would be trashed in a real election if they lost there.

Cindy Leclerc (VM): 1884 votes (36.68%)
Nino Colavecchio (UM): 1785 votes (34.75%)
Nathalie Pierre-Antoine (PM): 1467 votes (28.56%)

Turnout of 21.16%

http://election-montreal.qc.ca/actualites/detail/ElectionPartielle_RDP2012_Resultats.fr.html

[RogueBeaver]

Coderre's getting hit for his less-than-pristine Rolodex.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/will-denis-coderre-enter-race-to-be-mayor-of-montreal/article5187612/

[MaxQue]

I noticed that one of the UM councillors left the party to sit as an independent.

One councillor in the West Island "decided" to leave when the election office sued him for giving 5,000$ in cash to a campaign coordinator.

That's Bertrand Ward, city councillor for the West ward of the Pierrefonds-Roxboro borough.

Yesterday, Frantz Benjamin, city councillor for Saint-Michel, also left, disgusted by what he learned at Charbonneau.

Giovanni Rapanà, borough councillor for Rivière-des-Prairies, will also sit as an independant

[MaxQue]

I noticed that one of the UM councillors left the party to sit as an independent.

One councillor in the West Island "decided" to leave when the election office sued him for giving 5,000$ in cash to a campaign coordinator.

That's Bertrand Ward, city councillor for the West ward of the Pierrefonds-Roxboro borough.

Yesterday, Frantz Benjamin, city councillor for Saint-Michel, also left, disgusted by what he learned at Charbonneau.

Giovanni Rapanà, borough councillor for Rivière-des-Prairies, will also sit as an independant

Frank Venneri, city councillor for François-Perrault (Southern St.Michel) left Union Montreal. He seems to be upset than Applebaum lost the internal vote for mayor.

EDIT: Alain Tassé, borough councillor for Desjardins-Crawford (Western Verdun) left also the party. Apparently, much of that is about the tax rise.

With all that (but the borough councillors aren't sitting on the city council), medias are reporting than Union Montréal lost its majority.

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/regional/montreal/201211/14/01-4593697-union-montreal-perd-sa-majorite.php

Susan Clark, city councillor for Loyola (Western NDG) and Lionel Perez, city councillor for Darlington (Northern Côte-des-Neiges) are leaving, too.

Probably related to Applebaum, again, as he is the Côte-des-Neiges--Notre-Dame-de-Grâce borough mayor.

EDIT2: Applebaum left, too.

[Hatman 🍁]

Talking of that, there is a by-election in Rivière-des-Prairies on November 11.

It should be a safe UM hold (was 60-23-17, UM-VM-PM in 2009), but trends could indicate things (or not, given the specific ethnic composition of that area).

It should have been an easy UM hold, but, it wasn't.

Vision Montreal gained it by 99 votes.

37-35-39 VM-UM-PM. I think than we can safely say than Union Montréal would be trashed in a real election if they lost there.

Cindy Leclerc (VM): 1884 votes (36.68%)
Nino Colavecchio (UM): 1785 votes (34.75%)
Nathalie Pierre-Antoine (PM): 1467 votes (28.56%)

Turnout of 21.16%

http://election-montreal.qc.ca/actualites/detail/ElectionPartielle_RDP2012_Resultats.fr.html

Sad that PM finished third. But I guess it's not a very left wing area.

[MaxQue]

Talking of that, there is a by-election in Rivière-des-Prairies on November 11.

It should be a safe UM hold (was 60-23-17, UM-VM-PM in 2009), but trends could indicate things (or not, given the specific ethnic composition of that area).

It should have been an easy UM hold, but, it wasn't.

Vision Montreal gained it by 99 votes.

37-35-39 VM-UM-PM. I think than we can safely say than Union Montréal would be trashed in a real election if they lost there.

Cindy Leclerc (VM): 1884 votes (36.68%)
Nino Colavecchio (UM): 1785 votes (34.75%)
Nathalie Pierre-Antoine (PM): 1467 votes (28.56%)

Turnout of 21.16%

http://election-montreal.qc.ca/actualites/detail/ElectionPartielle_RDP2012_Resultats.fr.html

Sad that PM finished third. But I guess it's not a very left wing area.

They voted for Liberals over NDP in 2011 and PQ and CAQ were almost tied there, in September. It's ethnic and suburban.

[MaxQue]

The collapse continue.

The leader of Union Montreal, Marvin Rotrand, city councillor for Snowdon (western Côte-des-Neiges) left the party to become an independant and vote for Applebaum.

For the same reasons, Ginette Marotte, city councillor for Champlain-Nuns Island (eastern Verdun) and Daniel Bélanger, city councillor for Saint-Paul--Émard (western of the Southwest borough) left.

Also, Christian G. Dubois, city councillor for Bois-de-Liesse (known as the East ward of Pierrefonds-Roxboro at last election) left the caucus, without leaving the party.

In other news, Vision Montreal will present no candidate for the mayor office tomorrow.

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/regional/montreal/201211/15/01-4594181-interim-marvin-rotrand-appuie-michael-applebaum.php

[RogueBeaver]

Looks like Coderre will have to found a new party. But then again Drapeau's party also imploded when he left. These things are personality cults and not much more.

[MaxQue]

Looks like Coderre will have to found a new party. But then again Drapeau's party also imploded when he left. These things are personality cults and not much more.

Well, one week ought to be a record.

[Zanas]

Why would they not all affiliate to provincial parties ? Wouldn't it be much simpler ?

[RogueBeaver]

Tremblay's PLQ- he used to be a Bourassa minister. UM is mostly PLQ types, VM is led by a Peq, and PM has no affiliation. But no, we don't use explicitly partisan affiliations like in the US or UK.

[MaxQue]

Tremblay's PLQ- he used to be a Bourassa minister. UM is mostly PLQ types, VM is led by a Peq, and PM has no affiliation. But no, we don't use explicitly partisan affiliations like in the US or UK.

But former VM leader was in ADQ, the ancestror of CAQ.
PM members are often members of NDP and/or QS or various fringe left-wing provicial parties (Greens, UCQ...).

[Hatman 🍁]

Why would they not all affiliate to provincial parties ? Wouldn't it be much simpler ?

That's almost how it is. (UM=PLQ; VM=PQ; PM=QS, NDP, PVQ etc) But, municipal parties are too scared to identify with political brands. If the federal Tories are really unpopular, but you're a conservative person, it would be suicide to run as a Tory. Better to just run as a different right wing party. 

[MaxQue]

The deadline for filling a candidature form for tomorrow vote passed.
There is only two candidates:

Richard Deschamps (UM), winner of the internal vote, responsible of economy on the Executive Coucil, city councillor for Sault-Saint-Louis (LaSalle borough)

Michael Applebaum (ind), loser of the UM internal vote, former president of the Executive Council, borough mayor of Côte-des-Neiges--Notre-Dame-de-Grâce, left UM on Wednesday.

VM and PM are running no one. I suppose they will abstain or vote for Applebaum.

[Hatman 🍁]

Wait, what's happening?

[MaxQue]

Wait, what's happening?

Union Montreal did a vote among city and borough councillors member of the party to choose the next mayor, as they had the majority. It was Deschamps vs. Applebaum (and Helen Fotopulos, former borough mayor of the Plateau and current city councillor for Côte-des-Neiges). Deschamps won. Some pro-Deschamps people anonymously complained in medias than Applebaum French was awful, to taint him.

Applebaum got angry and said than the UM executive was hiding reports about overfacturation of public works since 2005 and complaned against the 3.3% tax hike. He also resigned the presidence of the Executive Council. One of the UM leaders blasted him publically for critizing the party in public.

Some councillors didn't liked and left. Finally, Applebaum and his allies left the party and decided to sit as independants. UM lost its majority, in the process. He also said than he will run for mayor, until 2013. He promised to stay independant, to not run in 2013 and to make a coalition executive with UM, VM, PM and indies. He met with the various parties leaders.

Finally, seeing than Applebaum would win, Deschamps promised the same things (except about 2013). He also promised asking to Québec to appoiint a special verificator, as they did in Laval.

The municipal council is electing the new mayor, tomorrow, at 10AM.

[Hatman 🍁]

So, Applebaum was elected by council. So, Montreal has an Independent mayor. So, obviously UM is going to be no more come the next election. I bet most of the indies will form their own party behind Applebaum.

[Hash]

So Montreal has an Anglo/Jewish mayor who has some difficulties speaking French. lol

He won 31-29, with 3 spoiled ballots. UM has 26 seats.

[RogueBeaver]

Applebaum claims he won't run, and anyways the new PLQ-inspired party will be headed by Coderre.

[MaxQue]

So Montreal has an Anglo/Jewish mayor who has some difficulties speaking French. lol

His French isn't so bad. It was reported as worse than it is by Deschamps supporters.
A bit like Ruth Ellen Brosseau. His French was bad, but not as bad the Bloc supporters were trying to make us believe.

[Hatman 🍁]

Applebaum claims he won't run, and anyways the new PLQ-inspired party will be headed by Coderre.

Will he unite the factions? And will he avoid calling the party something crappy like "Equipe Coderre"?

[RogueBeaver]

Maybe to your first question, hopefully yes to your second.