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Attorney General & PPT Dwarven Dragon
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« on: January 24, 2023, 02:45:26 AM »

The amendment does not remove the South from Atlasia automatically, it merely calls on Southern Legislators to begin negotiations with Nyman on the South's status within Atlasia. It also leaves open the possibility of a "soft exit", under which the South could retain voting rights but be exempt from many federal laws. I think it's far too early to tell what the final outcome of this will be. Given the lack of energy many people seem to put in this game, it could end up just fizzling out and resulting in literally nothing.

As far as the positions of those of us not in the South, I think we're all kind of bewildered that it actually passed and figuring out what should happen next.
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Attorney General & PPT Dwarven Dragon
Dwarven Dragon
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« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2023, 03:35:30 AM »

The amendment does not remove the South from Atlasia automatically, it merely calls on Southern Legislators to begin negotiations with Nyman on the South's status within Atlasia. It also leaves open the possibility of a "soft exit", under which the South could retain voting rights but be exempt from many federal laws. I think it's far too early to tell what the final outcome of this will be. Given the lack of energy many people seem to put in this game, it could end up just fizzling out and resulting in literally nothing.

As far as the positions of those of us not in the South, I think we're all kind of bewildered that it actually passed and figuring out what should happen next.

I strongly oppose giving them special status either within Atlasia or as a 'partnership' betwen countries. The federal government needs to take a stand here and make them accept they will lose the benefits of being in Atlasia if they leave.

I won't speak for Weatherboy or Forumlurker, but I would likely ignore any secession attempt as long as I remain a member of the GM Team. As far as I am concerned, the South is, was and will be part of Atlasia.

The right to regional secession is provided for in the federal constitution. If this does become a hard exit, it would seem rather silly to still be pretending the South is in Atlasia for GM purposes when in reality they're off in their own game and probably have their own GM to boot.
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Attorney General & PPT Dwarven Dragon
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« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2023, 03:42:21 AM »

While this is uncharted territory and I cannot predict anything with complete certainty, I think I can confidently say Yankee and Cao both have huge incentives to make it be known at least privately that independence is off the table, and that greater autonomy is clearly something that the South's regional leadership can at least credibly claim a mandate of some kind for. But that does not mean that it will inevitably happen. Terra incognita, everyone!

I've been hearing whispers to the contrary with regard to our current President. Granted, it is hearsay and I cannot speak for him personally, so I welcome public forum clarification on the matter.

Yankee and I have been dueling for more than a decade, but we do have a core of commonalities and I feel confident in saying that the Past, Present and/or Future King of the Federalist Party would never endorse outright succession under any circumstances.

Problem is, how much sway does Yankee actually have on his membership? Given that his party voted for secession despite him personally voting No, and that YT won despite a number of higher-up federalists backing a write-in candidate, it does not seem that the King is controlling the commoner.
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