Joe Biden 2020 campaign megathread v3 (pg 45 - mass-dropout aftermath)

[Coastal Elitist]

uh oh Beto stumbled over his words while speaking he must be going senile lol

[NOVA Green]

I’m rolling with Joe. The alternative is a self avowed socialist who praises communists but has all the energy in the world to trash Democrats he will need to not only vote for him but vote for his agenda. I’m good.

I'm good voting 3rd Party if Biden wins the PRIM at this point....

Speaking of trashing 50% of your Party Base, it's the Establishment DEMs....

He's talking about helping downstream candidates like Colin Allred.  He's talking about working to take back the state legislature.  So how does he expect to do that if he's trashing the party base as you claim??

I like BETO and he should have run for US SEN from TX in 2020....

[NYSforKennedy2024]

Beto is endorsing Biden.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/02/beto-orourke-to-endorse-biden-119100?fbclid=IwAR1F_Owa6p7xP9HDwfEDOdnepv_B_c4qU1y51_tYb8oJ-eJX_9PCeyZo6_Q

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Beto and Buttigieg have been ridiculed by conservative talk and Fox news Hannity. Their endorsements doesnt mean much.

Castro was a better fit for Senate than Beto and Joaquin was a good choice

[NOVA Green]

I’m rolling with Joe. The alternative is a self avowed socialist who praises communists but has all the energy in the world to trash Democrats he will need to not only vote for him but vote for his agenda. I’m good.

I'm good voting 3rd Party if Biden wins the PRIM at this point....

Speaking of trashing 50% of your Party Base, it's the Establishment DEMs....

Extreme Sanders supporters willing to hand the election to Trump are not 50% of the party.

Oregon is SAFE DEM in 2020....

[Podgy the Bear]

Beto and Buttigieg have been ridiculed by conservative talk and Fox news Hannity. Their endorsements doesnt mean much.

Right--I really hang on every word that scumbag Hannity brings out...

[GeneralMacArthur]

Beto gave a great endorsement speech, still has that undeniable charisma.  It's a shame he didn't get behind Biden earlier or he could have delivered this state for him.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

NOVA Green is free to vote however he likes for top of ticket. What matters is voting D downballot.

[Warren 4 Secretary of Everything]

Beto gave a great endorsement speech, still has that undeniable charisma.  It's a shame he didn't get behind Biden earlier or he could have delivered this state for him.

No, it’s a bigger shame that Biden, Buttigieg, and Klobuchar aren’t on stage endorsing him.

[Arizona Iced Tea]

Beto? The guy who wanted to use the government's guns to take away the people's guns? Great endorsement Biden!

[NOVA Green]

NOVA Green is free to vote however he likes for top of ticket. What matters is voting D downballot.

I will.... considering that my State House and State Senators are Conservative Republicans.

I will definitely continue to support the fine work that Governor Brown has been doing for Progressive Statewide Politics on a wide host of issues.

I will definitely continue to support Progressive Democrat Peter Defazio....

Hell, in the event that Biden is the DEM nominee against DJT, there is a good chance that I will reluctantly vote for him (Although I can't speak about turnout from the rest of my extended family on my wife's side including adults kids, spouses/domestic partners).

I've had a few minutes to calm down, but the reality is that Biden and some of the other DEM candidates spent so much time "red-baiting" Bernie during the debates, while ignoring the reality that he brought items that generally a vast majority of DEMs in 2020 now agree on such as variations of "Free College", "Expanded Medical Access in a Form which Lowers Costs", "$15/Hr Min Wage", "FED legalization of MJ" but at the same time Bernie never gets any credit for putting these on the platform, while at the same time we are looking at "vanilla-lite" variations of policy proposals that the other candidates propose.

Sorry--- the time for marching backwards is done.... we have played defense on so many issues for so long. Both Biden & Bernie nationally look to be equal in polling to beat Trump in a GE Environment....

So why settle for meager incremental proposals rather than putting a platform together (which despite might not be immediately achievable sets a standard for what is possible in the future, rather than trying to be "Republican-Lite" on policies?

Mini rant/explanation aside: Joe Biden did seem quite a bit more active than he has been in awhile, although I honestly thought he did quite well in the last debate....

So please don't view this as any type of hatred on Biden (Actually kinda like the guy) but rather this looks like an "establishment fix", so yes there will be plenty of younger folks that will not turn-out to vote for Biden in NOV, especially if Bernie wins a plurality of delegates over Biden once we get to the Convention....

This will likely hurt down-ballot DEMs much more so than a Bernie > Biden GE ticket....

[Calthrina950]

I find it greatly ironic how Biden, who dominated the black vote in South Carolina, is getting endorsements from two candidates who did very poorly with black voters during their runs and have poor relations with the community (Buttigieg and Klobuchar), and from one (O'Rourke), whose radical comments on gun control capped off a disastrous and bungled candidacy. Nevertheless, I'm still not sure what the logic is to the establishment's actions. Biden probably would be a better candidate than Bloomberg, but choosing favorites in this way could alienate parts of the Democratic base and depress turnout in a general election. It feeds into a narrative that goes back to 2016, and the perceptions held by many progressives that the progress was skewed in favor of Clinton (however valid those claims may be).

[Bidenworth2020]

I find it greatly ironic how Biden, who dominated the black vote in South Carolina, is getting endorsements from two candidates who did very poorly with black voters during their runs and have poor relations with the community (Buttigieg and Klobuchar), and from one (O'Rourke), whose radical comments on gun control capped off a disastrous and bungled candidacy. Nevertheless, I'm still not sure what the logic is to the establishment's actions. Biden probably would be a better candidate than Bloomberg, but choosing favorites in this way could alienate parts of the Democratic base and depress turnout in a general election. It feeds into a narrative that goes back to 2016, and the perceptions held by many progressives that the progress was skewed in favor of Clinton (however valid those claims may be).

I know you are a moderate, generally speaking. Would you support him the general?

[DrScholl]

I find it greatly ironic how Biden, who dominated the black vote in South Carolina, is getting endorsements from two candidates who did very poorly with black voters during their runs and have poor relations with the community (Buttigieg and Klobuchar), and from one (O'Rourke), whose radical comments on gun control capped off a disastrous and bungled candidacy. Nevertheless, I'm still not sure what the logic is to the establishment's actions. Biden probably would be a better candidate than Bloomberg, but choosing favorites in this way could alienate parts of the Democratic base and depress turnout in a general election. It feeds into a narrative that goes back to 2016, and the perceptions held by many progressives that the progress was skewed in favor of Clinton (however valid those claims may be).

I know you are a moderate, generally speaking. Would you support him the general?

I think that person is a hardcore Trump supporter who only pretends to be a moderate to troll on this board.

[NOVA Green]

Beto? The guy who wanted to use the government's guns to take away the people's guns? Great endorsement Biden!

I'll take the bait...

Reality that an overwhelmingly majority of America support Common Sense Gun Laws, that represent a significant number of voters from both political parties and various spectrums.

The whole "Gun Debate" in many ways is a bit of a Metro Area vs Rurals Divide.

The vast majority of Americans live in Metro Areas....

The NRA has dominated the narrative along with the vast majority of Republicans within the US-House and Senate.

No guns will be taken away from anyone under "common sense gun laws", except for those with histories of domestic violence, criminals, and the like....

I admit that it a bit of hypocrisy that so many of the '20 DEM PRIM candidates have attempted to jump on Bernie for his history on Gun Votes, which after-all are not uncommon among many small-town and rural folks throughout the US (Including many co-workers, friends, & family here in Oregon).

The new concept of "suing Gun Mfgs" for the product they produce is more ridiculous as the argument against the Tobacco Industry (Where at least there was actual evidence that the industry lied when it came to the data).

Still, even as a smoker I have never received a paycheck from the Tobacco settlements, where most of the cash from State Gvt instead got shoved to cover budgetary shortfalls in Red & Blue States around the Country.

This does not mean that I am a Gun Nut, nor do I believe that certain Military hardware should be easily available to any "Nut" that wants to commit mass murder, followed by "suicide by cop".

I lived in Texas in a large Metro area, where there are plenty of folks that like their guns, but still don't live in fear that "their guns will be taken away"....

This is simply a shock factor from the NRA, who has come a long way from their origins in the '50s/'60s/'70s and now appears to be schills for the Gun Industry, whose Domestic Profits have decreased, mainly because of a decreasing rate of household gun ownership, and instead, are trying to maximize profits by selling more and more guns to many folks who already have an arsenal at their hands....

Despite whatever your image of Texas is, the reality is that "Guns in Texas/Tejas" probably isn't how a vast majority of the Citizens of the Lone Star State perceive the issue....

[Rookie Yinzer]

https://twitter.com/jeneps/status/1234657990189383681?s=20

Kamala endorsement?

I will be f-cking S H O O K

[Bidenworth2020]

https://twitter.com/jeneps/status/1234657990189383681?s=20

Kamala endorsement?

I will be f-cking S H O O K

Biden better remember she helped him in his time of need...

[Anti Democrat Democrat Club]

I’m rolling with Joe. The alternative is a self avowed socialist who praises communists but has all the energy in the world to trash Democrats he will need to not only vote for him but vote for his agenda. I’m good.

I'm good voting 3rd Party if Biden wins the PRIM at this point....

Speaking of trashing 50% of your Party Base, it's the Establishment DEMs....

Extreme Sanders supporters willing to hand the election to Trump are not 50% of the party.

Extreme Biden supporters willing to hand the election to Trump are not 50% of the party either.

[John Dule]

https://twitter.com/jeneps/status/1234657990189383681?s=20

Kamala endorsement?

I will be f-cking S H O O K

Damn, I wish I didn't have class tomorrow.

[Calthrina950]

I find it greatly ironic how Biden, who dominated the black vote in South Carolina, is getting endorsements from two candidates who did very poorly with black voters during their runs and have poor relations with the community (Buttigieg and Klobuchar), and from one (O'Rourke), whose radical comments on gun control capped off a disastrous and bungled candidacy. Nevertheless, I'm still not sure what the logic is to the establishment's actions. Biden probably would be a better candidate than Bloomberg, but choosing favorites in this way could alienate parts of the Democratic base and depress turnout in a general election. It feeds into a narrative that goes back to 2016, and the perceptions held by many progressives that the progress was skewed in favor of Clinton (however valid those claims may be).

I know you are a moderate, generally speaking. Would you support him the general?

I'm still leery towards Biden at this point, and am leaning third-party.

[Starry Eyed Jagaloon]

https://twitter.com/jeneps/status/1234657990189383681?s=20

Kamala endorsement?

I will be f-cking S H O O K

This is HUGE. Really, really hoping she's veep. That said, she proabbly should have gone ahead with endorsing in January.

[NOVA Green]

The "Fix is In"....

Episode II: The Establishment Strikes Back

Sorry, smells like a wet dawg, looks like a wet dawg, all data indicates this is a wet dawg....

Desperation from the Establishment Dems is the reason why Biden will lose in November, even if these shady deals manifest with actual election results.

The voters will vote but... a Biden win in SC is not a massive endorsement.

This will not be over until June, but if Joe can't argue about his policies (what are they anyways?), what is he gonna win on other than being the most electable, which pretty much only comes from Biden himself, plus the DEM establishment....

[Rookie Yinzer]

Just LMAO at y’all mad that Democrats are coalescing around the only viable Democrat left in this race. WTF ever


Anyway.... Beto took Biden to What-A-Burger

https://twitter.com/katieglueck/status/1234695202436243458?s=20

[Hindsight was 2020]

The "Fix is In"....

Episode II: The Establishment Strikes Back

Sorry, smells like a wet dawg, looks like a wet dawg, all data indicates this is a wet dawg....

Desperation from the Establishment Dems is the reason why Biden will lose in November, even if these shady deals manifest with actual election results.

The voters will vote but... a Biden win in SC is not a massive endorsement.

This will not be over until June, but if Joe can't argue about his policies (what are they anyways?), what is he gonna win on other than being the most electable, which pretty much only comes from Biden himself, plus the DEM establishment....

Other candidates dropping out to endorse Biden isn’t a “fix”

[Anti Democrat Democrat Club]

Beto gave a great endorsement speech, still has that undeniable charisma.  It's a shame he didn't get behind Biden earlier or he could have delivered this state for him.

He still might. Beto is a BFD.