Joe Biden 2020 campaign megathread v3 (pg 45 - mass-dropout aftermath)

[Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck]

Joe’s team has been ON IT with his ads lately. I bet their research is telling them what I’ve seen in South Carolina. Voters are tired of Bernie’s purity tests and nitpicking over policies that will be dead if McConnell controls the Senate. They just want Trump’s ass out. One of the main reasons Kamala abandoned attacks on Biden and focused squarely on Trump during the last months of her camapign:

https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1209181879460450304?s=20

LOL at thinking Biden will get some sort of bipartisan support in the Senate, how many Republicans voted for Obamacare? This ad is what you get when you actually don't have your own policies, so you have to go against opponent which isn't even his opponent yet. It reminds me of Hillary strategy to go for a win in AZ or GA and not to WI and MI. So, Biden's message is I'm not Trump and I'm not Bernie. Great stuff, it's gonna excite so many people to hand him a win in November. Bernie is on the other way ineluctable cause we tried his way in 2016 and failed. Wait.. No, he's ineluctable and will get nothing done, yet Obama and Biden did so much with a Republican Senate and a House, they confirmed so many judges and passed bold progressive laws and didn't deport immigrants at a record pace, and didn't do drone strikes at a record pace. Actually, Obama and Biden and their centrism gave us 75yr old socialist from Vermont as an almost nominee and a racist complete moron with zero experience who has the best words as a president. Good luck electing Biden in 2020. In 2024 Adolf Hitler reincarnated will probably get elected after him.

Right you are, bilaps!  These know-it-alls think the usual stuff works.  Wrong, ya goofs!  It's a whole new ballgame.  Sanders would bend Trump over and deliver a resounding blanchin'.  Biden... yeesh.  Uninspiring stuff!

[President Johnson]

Quote from: Tender Branson on April 23, 2019, 02:59:03 pm

Quote from: President Johnson on April 23, 2019, 02:58:06 pm

Quote from: Tender Branson on April 23, 2019, 02:49:11 pm

Joe Biden has a 80s, 90s mindset as a politician.

This doesn’t fit today’s Democratic Party and that’s why he’ll collapse to ca. 5% by Christmas.

I'll bump this if he's still leading by that time.

You are welcome to do so ...

BUMP!


Uncle Joe is still leading the national polls in the upper 20s and lower 30s, as well as most state polls. A prime example how he has been underestimated since the start.

[Illini Moderate]

Quote from: Tender Branson on April 23, 2019, 02:59:03 pm

Quote from: President Johnson on April 23, 2019, 02:58:06 pm

Quote from: Tender Branson on April 23, 2019, 02:49:11 pm

Joe Biden has a 80s, 90s mindset as a politician.

This doesn’t fit today’s Democratic Party and that’s why he’ll collapse to ca. 5% by Christmas.

I'll bump this if he's still leading by that time.

You are welcome to do so ...

BUMP!


Uncle Joe is still leading the national polls in the upper 20s and lower 30s, as well as most state polls. A prime example how he has been underestimated since the start.

Still so interesting to me how so many thought Joe was for sure going to collapse. They forget that he has appeal outside of electability. For many people who are older than 40, have blue collar jobs, or live in more rural/suburban areas, his moderate politics are refreshing.  While his campaign in the general really needs to hammer the issues more than just Trump, he's doing a good job by not running the PC focused campaign that Hillary did. He's able to come across as authentic by campaigning as himself as well and standing strong in defending his positions. Hillary lost appeal by caving on certain things to the Bernie wing and trying to come off as a more "hip" candidate when she was not one. Biden is doing good by playing up his old-school approach to things because voters know that's who he really is.

[Rookie Yinzer]

Joe’s team has been ON IT with his ads lately. I bet their research is telling them what I’ve seen in South Carolina. Voters are tired of Bernie’s purity tests and nitpicking over policies that will be dead if McConnell controls the Senate. They just want Trump’s ass out. One of the main reasons Kamala abandoned attacks on Biden and focused squarely on Trump during the last months of her camapign:

https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1209181879460450304?s=20

LOL at thinking Biden will get some sort of bipartisan support in the Senate, how many Republicans voted for Obamacare? This ad is what you get when you actually don't have your own policies, so you have to go against opponent which isn't even his opponent yet. It reminds me of Hillary strategy to go for a win in AZ or GA and not to WI and MI. So, Biden's message is I'm not Trump and I'm not Bernie. Great stuff, it's gonna excite so many people to hand him a win in November. Bernie is on the other way ineluctable cause we tried his way in 2016 and failed. Wait.. No, he's ineluctable and will get nothing done, yet Obama and Biden did so much with a Republican Senate and a House, they confirmed so many judges and passed bold progressive laws and didn't deport immigrants at a record pace, and didn't do drone strikes at a record pace. Actually, Obama and Biden and their centrism gave us 75yr old socialist from Vermont as an almost nominee and a racist complete moron with zero experience who has the best words as a president. Good luck electing Biden in 2020. In 2024 Adolf Hitler reincarnated will probably get elected after him.

I don’t think Biden is getting much passed either. Voters are naive and want this fake air of bipartisanship though. Which is why Biden is going to win the primary. Democrats are not choosing Bernie Sanders to be their leader when he doesn’t even like the party! Are Chris Coons, Kyrsten Sinema, Tom Carper, and Joe Manchin voting for Medicare for All, eliminating all medical debt, and free public tuition? Nope. So how will it get passed with a Dem majority let alone a Republican majority.

And Biden should be competing in AZ and GA with rapid growing non-white populations and college ed whites leaving the GOP in significant numbers. Last time I checked Pres candidates could compete and spend resources in more than one area of the country.

Anyway Bernie is a disaster waiting to happen. People are tired of his BS which is why he hasn’t moved past his core 15-20 percent since he got in.

And let’s be clear: I don’t want Joe. But it’s going to happen and I’m focused on the down ballot Dems running for Senate and flipping state legislatures. But I refuse to disparage the potential nominee at this point.

[Donerail]

Uncle Joe is still leading the national polls in the upper 20s and lower 30s, as well as most state polls. A prime example how he has been underestimated since the start.

tell us more about these states and their place in the primary calendar

[junior chįmp]

Joe’s team has been ON IT with his ads lately. I bet their research is telling them what I’ve seen in South Carolina. Voters are tired of Bernie’s purity tests and nitpicking over policies that will be dead if McConnell controls the Senate. They just want Trump’s ass out. One of the main reasons Kamala abandoned attacks on Biden and focused squarely on Trump during the last months of her camapign:

https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1209181879460450304?s=20

LOL at thinking Biden will get some sort of bipartisan support in the Senate, how many Republicans voted for Obamacare? This ad is what you get when you actually don't have your own policies, so you have to go against opponent which isn't even his opponent yet. It reminds me of Hillary strategy to go for a win in AZ or GA and not to WI and MI. So, Biden's message is I'm not Trump and I'm not Bernie. Great stuff, it's gonna excite so many people to hand him a win in November. Bernie is on the other way ineluctable cause we tried his way in 2016 and failed. Wait.. No, he's ineluctable and will get nothing done, yet Obama and Biden did so much with a Republican Senate and a House, they confirmed so many judges and passed bold progressive laws and didn't deport immigrants at a record pace, and didn't do drone strikes at a record pace. Actually, Obama and Biden and their centrism gave us 75yr old socialist from Vermont as an almost nominee and a racist complete moron with zero experience who has the best words as a president. Good luck electing Biden in 2020. In 2024 Adolf Hitler reincarnated will probably get elected after him.

Under the "extremist" Republican Tea party...the Dems were reduced to what....6 trifecta in state government after 2016? Under "moderate" Dems like Bill Clinton....the GOP ended 6 decades of almost uninterrupted House rule by the Democratic party which has existed since New Deal days. But Atlas keeps relentlessly jerking off about how we need a "moderate" Dem like Biden to win.

It's almost become comical at this point how the GOP can shift as far right as it wants and win ever increasing majorities but meanwhile the ghost of McGovern and Jimmy Carter forever haunt leftism and is the reason why Dems cant nominate a leftist.

[brucejoel99]

Uncle Joe is still leading the national polls in the upper 20s and lower 30s, as well as most state polls. A prime example how he has been underestimated since the start.

tell us more about these states and their place in the primary calendar

Nevada (02/22); South Carolina (02/29); Alabama, Maine, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Texas, & Virginia (03/03); Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, & Washington (03/10); Arizona, Florida, Illinois, & Ohio (03/17); Georgia (03/24); Wisconsin (04/07); Delaware, Maryland, New York, & Pennsylvania (04/28); Indiana (05/05); & New Jersey (06/02).

[Rookie Yinzer]

Joe’s team has been ON IT with his ads lately. I bet their research is telling them what I’ve seen in South Carolina. Voters are tired of Bernie’s purity tests and nitpicking over policies that will be dead if McConnell controls the Senate. They just want Trump’s ass out. One of the main reasons Kamala abandoned attacks on Biden and focused squarely on Trump during the last months of her camapign:

https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1209181879460450304?s=20

LOL at thinking Biden will get some sort of bipartisan support in the Senate, how many Republicans voted for Obamacare? This ad is what you get when you actually don't have your own policies, so you have to go against opponent which isn't even his opponent yet. It reminds me of Hillary strategy to go for a win in AZ or GA and not to WI and MI. So, Biden's message is I'm not Trump and I'm not Bernie. Great stuff, it's gonna excite so many people to hand him a win in November. Bernie is on the other way ineluctable cause we tried his way in 2016 and failed. Wait.. No, he's ineluctable and will get nothing done, yet Obama and Biden did so much with a Republican Senate and a House, they confirmed so many judges and passed bold progressive laws and didn't deport immigrants at a record pace, and didn't do drone strikes at a record pace. Actually, Obama and Biden and their centrism gave us 75yr old socialist from Vermont as an almost nominee and a racist complete moron with zero experience who has the best words as a president. Good luck electing Biden in 2020. In 2024 Adolf Hitler reincarnated will probably get elected after him.

Under the "extremist" Republican Tea party...the Dems were reduced to what....6 trifecta in state government after 2016? Under "moderate" Dems like Bill Clinton....the GOP ended 6 decades of almost uninterrupted House rule by the Democratic party which has existed since New Deal days. But Atlas keeps relentlessly jerking off about how we need a "moderate" Dem like Biden to win.

It's almost become comical at this point how the GOP can shift as far right as it wants and win ever increasing majorities but meanwhile the ghost of McGovern and Jimmy Carter forever haunt leftism and is the reason why Dems cant nominate a leftist.

Bernie Sanders is just an insufferable c-nt.

And I don’t think a leftist candidate would automatically lose I’m just saying Democratic primary voters don’t give a f-ck about Bernie and his looney purity tests. And they don’t. I’ve talked to hundreds of voters in S.C. volunteering for Warren and Harris at different points. They just want Trump out. Nitpicking over Medicare for All or a public option is not what they’re doing......

[junior chįmp]

Joe’s team has been ON IT with his ads lately. I bet their research is telling them what I’ve seen in South Carolina. Voters are tired of Bernie’s purity tests and nitpicking over policies that will be dead if McConnell controls the Senate. They just want Trump’s ass out. One of the main reasons Kamala abandoned attacks on Biden and focused squarely on Trump during the last months of her camapign:

https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1209181879460450304?s=20

LOL at thinking Biden will get some sort of bipartisan support in the Senate, how many Republicans voted for Obamacare? This ad is what you get when you actually don't have your own policies, so you have to go against opponent which isn't even his opponent yet. It reminds me of Hillary strategy to go for a win in AZ or GA and not to WI and MI. So, Biden's message is I'm not Trump and I'm not Bernie. Great stuff, it's gonna excite so many people to hand him a win in November. Bernie is on the other way ineluctable cause we tried his way in 2016 and failed. Wait.. No, he's ineluctable and will get nothing done, yet Obama and Biden did so much with a Republican Senate and a House, they confirmed so many judges and passed bold progressive laws and didn't deport immigrants at a record pace, and didn't do drone strikes at a record pace. Actually, Obama and Biden and their centrism gave us 75yr old socialist from Vermont as an almost nominee and a racist complete moron with zero experience who has the best words as a president. Good luck electing Biden in 2020. In 2024 Adolf Hitler reincarnated will probably get elected after him.

Under the "extremist" Republican Tea party...the Dems were reduced to what....6 trifecta in state government after 2016? Under "moderate" Dems like Bill Clinton....the GOP ended 6 decades of almost uninterrupted House rule by the Democratic party which has existed since New Deal days. But Atlas keeps relentlessly jerking off about how we need a "moderate" Dem like Biden to win.

It's almost become comical at this point how the GOP can shift as far right as it wants and win ever increasing majorities but meanwhile the ghost of McGovern and Jimmy Carter forever haunt leftism and is the reason why Dems cant nominate a leftist.

Bernie Sanders is just an insufferable c-nt.

And I don’t think a leftist candidate would automatically lose I’m just saying Democratic primary voters don’t give a f-ck about Bernie and his looney purity tests. And they don’t. I’ve talked to hundreds of voters in S.C. volunteering for Warren and Harris at different points. They just want Trump out. Nitpicking over Medicare for All or a public option is not what they’re doing......

My argument is that Bidens "moderation" makes no difference in the General Election against Trump. Whether Biden or Sanders gets the Dem nomination is irrelevant to the election outcome. If Biden ends up losing then so would of Sanders and vice versa.

I just cant stand this argument that the Dem candidate must forever be a moderate becuz McGovern while right wing loons go off the spectrum and keep winning ever increasing majorities

[Annatar]

Biden's electability argument I would argue continues to erode with each passing month as his numbers continue to decline among the independent voters.

His net favourability numbers have basically converged with Sanders now whilst they were higher a few months ago, in the latest CNN poll he has now dropped below Bernie, his net fav was -8 vs -1 for Bernie. Among independents his net fav was -11 vs +2 for Bernie.

There is also the fact that the other argument people made for Biden, namely that he was polling well vs Trump has basically disappeared. In October there were 9 H2H polls an Biden's average lead was 10.2%, in November there were 2 so the sample size is to small to draw any conclusions, in December there have been 6 and Biden's lead has averaged 4.5%.

The more people see of Biden the more they dislike him, he's basically a more anaemic version of Hillary. Bernie I would say is the best candidate in the field right now that the democrats have.

[Bidenworth2020]

Biden's electability argument I would argue continues to erode with each passing month as his numbers continue to decline among the independent voters.

His net favourability numbers have basically converged with Sanders now whilst they were higher a few months ago, in the latest CNN poll he has now dropped below Bernie, his net fav was -8 vs -1 for Bernie. Among independents his net fav was -11 vs +2 for Bernie.

There is also the fact that the other argument people made for Biden, namely that he was polling well vs Trump has basically disappeared. In October there were 9 H2H polls an Biden's average lead was 10.2%, in November there were 2 so the sample size is to small to draw any conclusions, in December there have been 6 and Biden's lead has averaged 4.5%.

The more people see of Biden the more they dislike him, he's basically a more anaemic version of Hillary. Bernie I would say is the best candidate in the field right now that the democrats have.

In this same poll, Biden STILL did better than Bernie in the Trump H2H. I would also add that Bernie and Biden usually have identical favorables, and any edge for Bernie comes from his heightened numbers with democrats (who would vote for Biden anyway).

[Annatar]

Biden's electability argument I would argue continues to erode with each passing month as his numbers continue to decline among the independent voters.

His net favourability numbers have basically converged with Sanders now whilst they were higher a few months ago, in the latest CNN poll he has now dropped below Bernie, his net fav was -8 vs -1 for Bernie. Among independents his net fav was -11 vs +2 for Bernie.

There is also the fact that the other argument people made for Biden, namely that he was polling well vs Trump has basically disappeared. In October there were 9 H2H polls an Biden's average lead was 10.2%, in November there were 2 so the sample size is to small to draw any conclusions, in December there have been 6 and Biden's lead has averaged 4.5%.

The more people see of Biden the more they dislike him, he's basically a more anaemic version of Hillary. Bernie I would say is the best candidate in the field right now that the democrats have.

In this same poll, Biden STILL did better than Bernie in the Trump H2H. I would also add that Bernie and Biden usually have identical favorables, and any edge for Bernie comes from his heightened numbers with democrats (who would vote for Biden anyway).

The trend over the past few months has been worse for Biden than Bernie though, and in the CNN poll, Bernie's higher numbers were not just a result of higher favourables with dems but because he was more popular with independents.

[Bidenworth2020]

Biden's electability argument I would argue continues to erode with each passing month as his numbers continue to decline among the independent voters.

His net favourability numbers have basically converged with Sanders now whilst they were higher a few months ago, in the latest CNN poll he has now dropped below Bernie, his net fav was -8 vs -1 for Bernie. Among independents his net fav was -11 vs +2 for Bernie.

There is also the fact that the other argument people made for Biden, namely that he was polling well vs Trump has basically disappeared. In October there were 9 H2H polls an Biden's average lead was 10.2%, in November there were 2 so the sample size is to small to draw any conclusions, in December there have been 6 and Biden's lead has averaged 4.5%.

The more people see of Biden the more they dislike him, he's basically a more anaemic version of Hillary. Bernie I would say is the best candidate in the field right now that the democrats have.

In this same poll, Biden STILL did better than Bernie in the Trump H2H. I would also add that Bernie and Biden usually have identical favorables, and any edge for Bernie comes from his heightened numbers with democrats (who would vote for Biden anyway).

The trend over the past few months has been worse for Biden than Bernie though, and in the CNN poll, Bernie's higher numbers were not just a result of higher favourables with dems but because he was more popular with independents.

This has been the result of the Ukraine investigation, which is damage already done and was inevitable come the general. Biden has just already gotten a taste of it, while Bernie has not.

[Obama-Biden Democrat]

OMG that clip of Biden at the end made me laugh way too hard.

Release your tax returns or SHUT. UP.

I f***ing love it.  Can't wait to hear that in a debate.

This is lamest thing ever written.  Did the DNC grow you in a lab? 

Another uncalled-for personal attack.  Such a nasty guy!

or sick/bad!

[Frodo]

Biden reveals deep bench of campaign bundlers
The former vice president's list of fundraisers includes many of the biggest names in Democratic fundraising.

[junior chįmp]

Biden reveals deep bench of campaign bundlers
The former vice president's list of fundraisers includes many of the biggest names in Democratic fundraising.

Big money in politics is bad....unless they contribute to Dem WWC candidate man Biden then it is okay. Biden may be relying on big money and demographics he helped to jail, but that's not because their's no excitment among  his low energy candidacy, but because the grassroots who matter to the Dem party around election day, will not heed to the establishment which means they are racist

[Cinemark]

https://mobile.twitter.com/riotwomennn/status/1211154982361321482

Not sure how old this video is, but as a die hard Hillary supporter, I really appreciate that Biden said this. He's not my first choice, but I'd campaign my heart out for him if he's the nominee.

[Rookie Yinzer]

He said that in 2016 because the VP seal is on his podium.

Either way- he said it and it’s true.

[American2020]

According to the Jacobin Magazine

https://twitter.com/jacobinmag/status/1211479555166396416

[Annatar]

The last time a party won control of the WH from the other party running a candidate with a lot of experience in DC was Nixon in 1968, since than, both parties have only won control of the WH by running candidates who had not spent a lot of time in DC. The fact Biden has spent so long in DC and is viewed a part of the establishment is one of the strongest arguments against his ability to win. Doubly so in an era where populism is rife and anti-establishment feeling is running high among swing voters.

[Bidenworth2020]

According to the Jacobin Magazine

https://twitter.com/jacobinmag/status/1211479555166396416

This is literally just how the writer feels with no facts to back it up. This argument can be presented in a reasonable manner, but this is not it.

[GeneralMacArthur]

Just as a reminder, when you say "Jacobin", you're talking about Sunkara, who has been relentlessly pushing Bernie for years because he wants Bernie to forgive his medical debt:

https://twitter.com/sunraysunray/status/1168278665811177472

[Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck]

Just as a reminder, when you say "Jacobin", you're talking about Sunkara, who has been relentlessly pushing Bernie for years because he wants Bernie to forgive his medical debt:

https://twitter.com/sunraysunray/status/1168278665811177472

And the problem with that is...? 

[junior chįmp]

Exciting stuff folks

https://mobile.twitter.com/BoKnowsNews/status/1211716568599736321

[Lambsbread]

Exciting stuff folks

https://mobile.twitter.com/BoKnowsNews/status/1211716568599736321

That's right, Joe Biden, the Very Good Democrat who wants to "save" the Republican Party and thinks they "don't deserve" to be beaten "too badly" wants to choose a Republican as his running mate. But Bernie's the one who's not a real Democrat. Ok.