Quebec Municipal Elections 2013

[Hatman 🍁]

Why just a thread for mayor? There's a council election too, not to mention races across the province.

Montreal is interesting because of the party system there. I wish Gatineau had some parties.

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Safe Liberal area = safe UM seat.

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Ha, okay, I was being overly simplistic. NDG is quite left wing, so of course it's going to vote for PM.  However, moderate federalist areas vote UM.

The area may have voted NDP federally, but it may vote Liberal with Trudeau as Liberal. With the thought of a new party system developing, places like this one will go Liberal, while NDG will go NDP (especially if it is separated from Westmount)

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I noticed that one of the UM councillors left the party to sit as an independent.

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Can any of you Montrealers get mayoral results by district from the last election?

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Dunno if it was tabulated by borough. All I can find are council and borough mayor results. Tremblay was strongest in the core city.

Yeah, I know. That's all I have been able to find to. I was hoping that someone with fluency in French might be able to find more. It seems that in English Canada, municipalities are more likely to publish poll by poll or ward by ward break downs of mayoral results.

I remember when I made the Quebec City council map, I spent a long time just trying to find a map of the districts. Boy, when the Quebec municipal elections come around, it's going to be tough getting information for maps.

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They aren't available in French either- checked the City site, La Presse and French Wiki. I honestly think they were only tabulated at-large.

Maybe. But, I doubt it. That's not how elections are done in this country.

If you are curious to find out, you could try emailing the city. I usually get a good response when I try that.

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Can any of you Montrealers get mayoral results by district from the last election?

I already saw it, but can't remember where.
EDIT: It was written on the official website of Election Montreal, but was taken down once official results were published.

Shucks. Well, I suppose someone has it there. They probably wouldn't mind an Anglo emailing them, so I will do so when the election gets closer. I might have to get something translated for other cities though.  If anyone does get their hands on the data before then, I would be happy to make a map asap.

[Hatman 🍁]

Can any of you Montrealers get mayoral results by district from the last election?

I already saw it, but can't remember where.
EDIT: It was written on the official website of Election Montreal, but was taken down once official results were published.

Shucks. Well, I suppose someone has it there. They probably wouldn't mind an Anglo emailing them, so I will do so when the election gets closer. I might have to get something translated for other cities though.  If anyone does get their hands on the data before then, I would be happy to make a map asap.

I made a map on this thread at the time. I don't remember exactly where I got the data, but it was probably the municipal site Max was mentioning.

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Woot. I was able to use the txt file in excel, since the data is separated by semi-colons.

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Oh wait, this is ridiculous, the format is

Poll 1 Candidate votes
Poll 1 Candidate votes
Poll 1 Candidate votes

For 65000 + lines :S

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Jesus, Montreal. How can one district have over 900 polling divisions? That's probably more than all of Ottawa combined.

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Jesus, Montreal. How can one district have over 900 polling divisions? That's probably more than all of Ottawa combined.

No ward have 900 polling divisions. The 900 divisions are the anticipation vote, I think.

I'm really confused. Do you think you could figure this one out? Because, it looks like it has 900 polls.

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Jesus, Montreal. How can one district have over 900 polling divisions? That's probably more than all of Ottawa combined.

No ward have 900 polling divisions. The 900 divisions are the anticipation vote, I think.

I'm really confused. Do you think you could figure this one out? Because, it looks like it has 900 polls.

The first ward, 101-Est (which is the East ward of the Pierrefonds-Roxboro borough) has 97 normal polls, one poll named 500 (for postal vote) and polls from 901 to 914 for early voting.

oh lol. I feel stupid now. Still, a lot of polls. We'll see if I have the time for this.

[Hatman 🍁]

How does it work to replace him? By-election? Or does it fall to a deputy? I think I remember Quebec City having a mayoral by-election a few years ago.

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How does it work to replace him? By-election? Or does it fall to a deputy? I think I remember Quebec City having a mayoral by-election a few years ago.

No by-election, as we are less than one year before the next election. To have a by-election, he should have resigned Friday or earlier.

Wow... who is mayor then?

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Canada seems to have a lot of corrupt mayors (O'Brien, Ford, Tremblay, DeCicco-Best, Court, etc)

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Talking of that, there is a by-election in Rivière-des-Prairies on November 11.

It should be a safe UM hold (was 60-23-17, UM-VM-PM in 2009), but trends could indicate things (or not, given the specific ethnic composition of that area).

It should have been an easy UM hold, but, it wasn't.

Vision Montreal gained it by 99 votes.

37-35-39 VM-UM-PM. I think than we can safely say than Union Montréal would be trashed in a real election if they lost there.

Cindy Leclerc (VM): 1884 votes (36.68%)
Nino Colavecchio (UM): 1785 votes (34.75%)
Nathalie Pierre-Antoine (PM): 1467 votes (28.56%)

Turnout of 21.16%

http://election-montreal.qc.ca/actualites/detail/ElectionPartielle_RDP2012_Resultats.fr.html

Sad that PM finished third. But I guess it's not a very left wing area.

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Why would they not all affiliate to provincial parties ? Wouldn't it be much simpler ?

That's almost how it is. (UM=PLQ; VM=PQ; PM=QS, NDP, PVQ etc) But, municipal parties are too scared to identify with political brands. If the federal Tories are really unpopular, but you're a conservative person, it would be suicide to run as a Tory. Better to just run as a different right wing party. 

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Wait, what's happening?

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So, Applebaum was elected by council. So, Montreal has an Independent mayor. So, obviously UM is going to be no more come the next election. I bet most of the indies will form their own party behind Applebaum.

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Applebaum claims he won't run, and anyways the new PLQ-inspired party will be headed by Coderre.

Will he unite the factions? And will he avoid calling the party something crappy like "Equipe Coderre"?

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Maybe to your first question, hopefully yes to your second.

Well, either way the party name will be something generic and all encompassing and uninspiring, and extremely vague.

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http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/regional/montreal/201211/22/01-4596604-comite-executif-la-coalition-voit-le-jour.php

Applebaum named its executive council, the equivalent of a Cabinet.
3 independants, 3 Union, 3 Vision, 2 Projet.
The important offices were given to independants and to Vision.

That didn't stop Union bleeding, Jocelyn Ann Campbell, the city councillor for Saint-Sulpice (inland Ahuntsic) became an independant. Ahuntsic-Cartierville borough is known for its close races, a couple of them finished by less than 100 votes, including a borough mayor where the 3rd place candidate had 32% of votes (35PM-33UM-32VM), and a city council elected which finished 34PM-33UM-33VM (in Ahuntsic ward, 137 votes between 1st and last).

Jocelyn Ann Campbell herself won by 39 votes over Vision.

At other levels, it also includes the federal seat of Ahuntsic which was a 3-way race and the provincial seat of Crémazie, which is the only true marginal seat on Montreal Island.

so what your saying is this is a very interesting area of Montreal then... what makes it so competitive for the 3 municipal parties?

It straddles Boul St-Laurent, which is the traditional separatist vs federalist border in Montreal. It's also at the north end of the Progressive leaning blob in the central part of the city.

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UM continues to crumble.

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/regional/montreal/201211/23/01-4597012-les-conseillers-de-lile-bizard-ste-genevieve-quittent-union-montreal-.php

What's the point of the party now anyways? We all know it's not going to be around come next election.