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« on: June 08, 2021, 02:19:33 PM »

Curiously, basically all French Presidents since De Gaulle, at least that's my impression, have a bit of a "Sun King" aura, as they act like kings. Mitterrand was even labeled as "the prince". The only expection may be Françoise Hollande, in my view.

Also, remember when flour was the weapon of choice of the French against their politicians?

Much like the original Sun King, you have the issue that none of De Gaulle's successors can possibly live up to the role that he defined.
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« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2021, 01:26:14 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2022, 05:14:51 AM »

Are there Zemourist candidates running in the legislative election?
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« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2022, 06:27:06 AM »

If Le Pen wins will France leave the EU and start helping Russia?

Le Pen wanted to leave the eurozone in 2017 which could have caused a serious rupture, but she has dropped that pledge. In general, the anti-EU and especially pro-Russia stuff is the millstone around the far right, compared to their popular planks against immigration and Islam, so  they have been pushed more into the background.
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« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2022, 07:27:54 AM »

I suppose the one saving grace for the French Left is that there doesn't really seem to be an anointed successor for The Flawless and the Beautiful when he decides to shed his mortal guise and ascend Mount Olympus, and his absence would free up a lot of woolly centre left voters vaguely ok with him as a figure that has some need to occasionally give them some policy bones. Of course, the fact that the French Left needs these people and finds it so hard to grab some people that aouldy have voted for UK labour and the SPD even at their nadirs is not particularly fantastic news, but that predated the  Flanpocalypse tbh.
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« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2022, 12:11:50 PM »

In other news, Taubira decides to back Mélenchon. This is a little surprising to me, she seems much more fiscally liberal (in the classical sense) than him. Hidalgo can't catch a break.

I nay have misunderstood her, but I also saw Segolene Royal calling for a Melenchon vote?
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« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2022, 09:35:50 AM »

How is recent unrest in Corsica affecting the race? Which way would soft Corsican nats (regionalists etc) vote?
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« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2022, 10:24:03 AM »

Results from overseas territories are often erroneous and technically illegal to share under french law at this time.
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« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2022, 01:28:46 PM »

Legislatives are going to be really interesting: will PS and LR incumbents follow their candidates into political graves?
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« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2022, 01:44:11 PM »

No surprise, Jadot endorses FBM as well.

As does Pecresse
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« Reply #10 on: April 10, 2022, 04:21:25 PM »

How is Le Pen doing so well in Mayotte? Aren't most of the population black Muslims?


Old story of intense levels of illegal immigration from Comoros, which does put some genuine pressure on the local infrastructure, blamed on rising crime, and is a source of pretty major tension. This gets coupled with a sentiment of neglect from the mainland. For instance, the response so far has been basically to send in the riot police with no genuine attempt to relieve the pressure (ie invest in local resources or make it possible for the Comorian migrants to head to the mainland. There are deportations en masse, but the geographical nature of the whole thing makes it not a viable long term solution).

See this article from 2021:

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The National Rally candidate for the 2022 presidential election spoke to about 400 Mahorais this Saturday, after a three-day trip to the island of Mayotte.

Marine Le Pen promised this Saturday to the Mahorais to bring back “hope” with his presidential project, after a three-day trip to the island of Mayotte, affected by insecurity and migratory pressure from neighboring Comoros .

“The reality is worse than the worst description and the situation is worsening at a terrifying speed. However, I want to send you today a message of hope”, launched the candidate of the National Rally, a necklace of flowers around the neck, to some 400 Mahorais gathered in the port of Mamoudzou.

She took the stage under the cries of “Allah Akbar” (God is great, in Arabic) launched by her followers, who sometimes sang and danced in her honor, to the sound of Muslim religious chants.

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« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2022, 03:32:07 AM »

Aren't most people who vite for PCF 90 plus diehards anyway?
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« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2022, 07:18:18 AM »

Is there anway LR and the Socialists survive as is after getting 6% of the voteshare combined?

They still have support at the regional, departmental and municipal level: this could either be a delayed reaction and local machines will gradually be eroded away or a decoupling of the national and local scenes.
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« Reply #13 on: April 13, 2022, 05:29:59 AM »

Wonder who voted in Syria and Afghanistan
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« Reply #14 on: April 24, 2022, 04:35:12 PM »

It seems that the Mélenchon strongholds in Overseas France have mostly swung massively behind Le Pen. Why do these places dislike Macron so much? Has he done something to specifically annoy them or are they just anti-establishment/#populist hotbeds in general?

Bad break up?

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« Reply #15 on: April 25, 2022, 04:35:18 AM »

it is meaningful to observe that Macron's 2022 electorate is largely a continuation of a right wing tendency. The point is you showed a picture of this map to a French person with an understanding of political geography in the 80's, they would probably make the assumption that macron was on the right. I think you're assuming people are saying because they want to diss macron, which is not really the case - the strand of rightism represented by macron is hardly the worst thing in the world.
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