St Patrick's Day (Mar 17) Election Results Thread

[Xing]

“Reassess” is politispeak for “dropping out soon.” Maybe not today or tomorrow, but soon. The Sanders haters are going to be so bored with themselves, poor things, they’ll need to find a new hobby.

[Lisa's voting Biden]

“Reassess” is politispeak for “dropping out soon.” Maybe not today or tomorrow, but soon. The Sanders haters are going to be so bored with themselves, poor things, they’ll need to find a new hobby.

I just plan to vote for Biden and hope SandersBots will do the same.

[Tender Branson]

Yep, get out Bernie.

[pppolitics]

The Bernie hate-circle here is fascinating. Bernie's someone you're going to need this fall for Biden to defeat Trump. He's hugely popular with an important chunk of the Democratic Party, and he's arguably the most transformative progressive in a generation.

Yes, it's time for Bernie to exit the race. Give the man some time. This entire situation is new and surprising, as I'm sure Bernie expected to be able to rally his supporters and GOTV through organizing as he's traditionally done in the past. He hasn't been able to do that due to the pandemic, and as I've said before, he will leave the race soon.

It's abundantly clear that the far-left (Sanders's base) makes up around 1/3 of the party.

Meanwhile, the center-left makes up around 2/3 of the party.

What is annoying is Sanders and his supporters claiming that the "corrupt establishment" is stealing the nomination from him (Sanders).

The fact of the matter is that Sanders is losing because he didn't expand his base beyond 1/3 of the party, not because the "corrupt establishment" is stealing the nomination from him.

By repeating his false claim, Sanders is insulting 2/3 of the party (that doesn't support him) and is basically saying that the 1/3 of the party that supports him is more important than the 2/3 of the party that doesn't.

[Rookie Yinzer]

The Bernie hate-circle here is fascinating. Bernie's someone you're going to need this fall for Biden to defeat Trump. He's hugely popular with an important chunk of the Democratic Party, and he's arguably the most transformative progressive in a generation.

Yes, it's time for Bernie to exit the race. Give the man some time. This entire situation is new and surprising, as I'm sure Bernie expected to be able to rally his supporters and GOTV through organizing as he's traditionally done in the past. He hasn't been able to do that due to the pandemic, and as I've said before, he will leave the race soon.

Whatever. Sanders's supporters smeared folks like Warren, Beto, Harris, and Pete- making ridiculous and defamatory claims, pushed candidates out of the race with vengeance and glee. He flopped, he's a fraud, and his claims about bringing all these new voters to the polls without the evil witch corrupt neolib corporate slut whore Hillary in the way was a LIE.

Bye Bernie! Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

[Badger]

The Bernie hate-circle here is fascinating. Bernie's someone you're going to need this fall for Biden to defeat Trump. He's hugely popular with an important chunk of the Democratic Party, and he's arguably the most transformative progressive in a generation.

Yes, it's time for Bernie to exit the race. Give the man some time. This entire situation is new and surprising, as I'm sure Bernie expected to be able to rally his supporters and GOTV through organizing as he's traditionally done in the past. He hasn't been able to do that due to the pandemic, and as I've said before, he will leave the race soon.

Whatever. Sanders's supporters smeared folks like Warren, Beto, Harris, and Pete- making ridiculous and defamatory claims, pushed candidates out of the race with vengeance and glee. He flopped, he's a fraud, and his claims about bringing all these new voters to the polls without the evil witch corrupt neolib corporate slut whore Hillary in the way was a LIE.

Bye Bernie! Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

Come on guys, enough. The Family Feud is over, Bernie deserves to leave with dignity, and we all need to unite against arguably the literal worst president in history. Seriously, at this point I think Trump is arguably worse than Buchanan, Fillmore, or Nixon.

[OSR stands with Israel]

The Bernie hate-circle here is fascinating. Bernie's someone you're going to need this fall for Biden to defeat Trump. He's hugely popular with an important chunk of the Democratic Party, and he's arguably the most transformative progressive in a generation.

Yes, it's time for Bernie to exit the race. Give the man some time. This entire situation is new and surprising, as I'm sure Bernie expected to be able to rally his supporters and GOTV through organizing as he's traditionally done in the past. He hasn't been able to do that due to the pandemic, and as I've said before, he will leave the race soon.

Whatever. Sanders's supporters smeared folks like Warren, Beto, Harris, and Pete- making ridiculous and defamatory claims, pushed candidates out of the race with vengeance and glee. He flopped, he's a fraud, and his claims about bringing all these new voters to the polls without the evil witch corrupt neolib corporate slut whore Hillary in the way was a LIE.

Bye Bernie! Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

Come on guys, enough. The Family Feud is over, Bernie deserves to leave with dignity, and we all need to unite against arguably the literal worst president in history. Seriously, at this point I think Trump is arguably worse than Buchanan, Fillmore, or Nixon.

There is no way Trump is worse than Piece, Buchanan, or A Johnson and even Hoover.

Hoover was also clearly worse than Nixon in every way as well

[ProudModerate2]

The Bernie hate-circle here is fascinating. Bernie's someone you're going to need this fall for Biden to defeat Trump. He's hugely popular with an important chunk of the Democratic Party, and he's arguably the most transformative progressive in a generation.

Yes, it's time for Bernie to exit the race. Give the man some time. This entire situation is new and surprising, as I'm sure Bernie expected to be able to rally his supporters and GOTV through organizing as he's traditionally done in the past. He hasn't been able to do that due to the pandemic, and as I've said before, he will leave the race soon.

Whatever. Sanders's supporters smeared folks like Warren, Beto, Harris, and Pete- making ridiculous and defamatory claims, pushed candidates out of the race with vengeance and glee. He flopped, he's a fraud, and his claims about bringing all these new voters to the polls without the evil witch corrupt neolib corporate slut whore Hillary in the way was a LIE.

Bye Bernie! Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

Come on guys, enough. The Family Feud is over, Bernie deserves to leave with dignity, and we all need to unite against arguably the literal worst president in history. Seriously, at this point I think Trump is arguably worse than Buchanan, Fillmore, or Nixon.

There is no way Trump is worse than Piece, Buchanan, or A Johnson and even Hoover.
Hoover was also clearly worse than Nixon in every way as well

People will disagree with you.
But even by your assessment, trump is in the bottom 5/6 of all-time worst.
Most people didn't even live through any of the other "horrible candidates" you listed (some maybe Nixon), so to have "the worst in their/our lifetime" (trump), is something we will all remember for the rest of our lives.

[Xing]

The Bernie hate-circle here is fascinating. Bernie's someone you're going to need this fall for Biden to defeat Trump. He's hugely popular with an important chunk of the Democratic Party, and he's arguably the most transformative progressive in a generation.

Yes, it's time for Bernie to exit the race. Give the man some time. This entire situation is new and surprising, as I'm sure Bernie expected to be able to rally his supporters and GOTV through organizing as he's traditionally done in the past. He hasn't been able to do that due to the pandemic, and as I've said before, he will leave the race soon.

Whatever. Sanders's supporters smeared folks like Warren, Beto, Harris, and Pete- making ridiculous and defamatory claims, pushed candidates out of the race with vengeance and glee. He flopped, he's a fraud, and his claims about bringing all these new voters to the polls without the evil witch corrupt neolib corporate slut whore Hillary in the way was a LIE.

Bye Bernie! Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

Come on guys, enough. The Family Feud is over, Bernie deserves to leave with dignity, and we all need to unite against arguably the literal worst president in history. Seriously, at this point I think Trump is arguably worse than Buchanan, Fillmore, or Nixon.

Yeah, Badger gets it. Bashing Sanders at this point does nothing but stroke the egos of those who hate him and probably hurts Biden, if anything. We all have to bury the hatchet together.

[catographer]

Bizarrely, Amy Klobuchar is at 0 votes statewide in Illinois according to NYT. Meanwhile, she is included in CNN and WashPo's tallies, as well as Atlas' statewide numbers (but not county numbers). The only place I've noticed where this is noticeable is Kankakee county, where Biden is above 60% with no-Klo numbers but under 60% with Klobuchar included.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

Bizarrely, Amy Klobuchar is at 0 votes statewide in Illinois according to NYT. Meanwhile, she is included in CNN and WashPo's tallies, as well as Atlas' statewide numbers (but not county numbers). The only place I've noticed where this is noticeable is Kankakee county, where Biden is above 60% with no-Klo numbers but under 60% with Klobuchar included.

Atlas has Klobuchar with 68% in Pike county

[catographer]

Bizarrely, Amy Klobuchar is at 0 votes statewide in Illinois according to NYT. Meanwhile, she is included in CNN and WashPo's tallies, as well as Atlas' statewide numbers (but not county numbers). The only place I've noticed where this is noticeable is Kankakee county, where Biden is above 60% with no-Klo numbers but under 60% with Klobuchar included.

Atlas has Klobuchar with 68% in Pike county

Gotta love those data entry errors...

[#TheShadowyAbyss]

I wonder how turnout would have been like if it wasn't for coronavirus?

Here in Florida it was expected thanks to early vote we'd break 2.2 million Dem ballots (it was 1.7 mil in 2016) but we barely passed 2016 thanks to a significant drop in in-person E-Day voting.

[Badger]

I wonder how turnout would have been like if it wasn't for coronavirus?

Here in Florida it was expected thanks to early vote we'd break 2.2 million Dem ballots (it was 1.7 mil in 2016) but we barely passed 2016 thanks to a significant drop in in-person E-Day voting.

I guarantee you it would have been dramatically higher in Ohio yesterday.

[Famous Mortimer]

The Bernie hate-circle here is fascinating. Bernie's someone you're going to need this fall for Biden to defeat Trump. He's hugely popular with an important chunk of the Democratic Party, and he's arguably the most transformative progressive in a generation.

Yes, it's time for Bernie to exit the race. Give the man some time. This entire situation is new and surprising, as I'm sure Bernie expected to be able to rally his supporters and GOTV through organizing as he's traditionally done in the past. He hasn't been able to do that due to the pandemic, and as I've said before, he will leave the race soon.

Whatever. Sanders's supporters smeared folks like Warren, Beto, Harris, and Pete- making ridiculous and defamatory claims, pushed candidates out of the race with vengeance and glee. He flopped, he's a fraud, and his claims about bringing all these new voters to the polls without the evil witch corrupt neolib corporate slut whore Hillary in the way was a LIE.

Bye Bernie! Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

Come on guys, enough. The Family Feud is over, Bernie deserves to leave with dignity, and we all need to unite against arguably the literal worst president in history. Seriously, at this point I think Trump is arguably worse than Buchanan, Fillmore, or Nixon.

lol we had a president who started a war of aggression in Iraq that killed hundreds of thousands of people STILL ALIVE. How is Trump worse than that?

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

The Bernie hate-circle here is fascinating. Bernie's someone you're going to need this fall for Biden to defeat Trump. He's hugely popular with an important chunk of the Democratic Party, and he's arguably the most transformative progressive in a generation.

Yes, it's time for Bernie to exit the race. Give the man some time. This entire situation is new and surprising, as I'm sure Bernie expected to be able to rally his supporters and GOTV through organizing as he's traditionally done in the past. He hasn't been able to do that due to the pandemic, and as I've said before, he will leave the race soon.

Whatever. Sanders's supporters smeared folks like Warren, Beto, Harris, and Pete- making ridiculous and defamatory claims, pushed candidates out of the race with vengeance and glee. He flopped, he's a fraud, and his claims about bringing all these new voters to the polls without the evil witch corrupt neolib corporate slut whore Hillary in the way was a LIE.

Bye Bernie! Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

Come on guys, enough. The Family Feud is over, Bernie deserves to leave with dignity, and we all need to unite against arguably the literal worst president in history. Seriously, at this point I think Trump is arguably worse than Buchanan, Fillmore, or Nixon.

There is no way Trump is worse than Piece, Buchanan, or A Johnson and even Hoover.
Hoover was also clearly worse than Nixon in every way as well

People will disagree with you.
But even by your assessment, trump is in the bottom 5/6 of all-time worst.
Most people didn't even live through any of the other "horrible candidates" you listed (some maybe Nixon), so to have "the worst in their/our lifetime" (trump), is something we will all remember for the rest of our lives.

Nixon seems to have been personally crooked, but an effective President all the same. Johnson should never have been in office. Pierce a failure and a broken human being (which I have a hard time holding against him). Buchanan was a simple failure. Hoover likewise failed to handle a difficult situation, but I have a hard time holding that single giant failure as evidence of complete awfulness from the man who co-wrote the definitive translation of De Re Metallica.

[Tender Branson]

WA has finished counting:

https://results.vote.wa.gov/results/20200310/Turnout.html

[Gracile]

Does anyone know if there are (preliminary) results for the March 17th primaries by congressional district yet? I wanted to see a breakdown, but I can't find one online.

[West_Midlander]

Imo the race was lost when Clyburn endorsed. Clyburn's endorsement ended up being the first step in a chain-reaction that upended the race and turned out to be the most impactful endorsement of the primary by far and it wasn't even close in that regard.

I gave up thinking Bernie could come back and win once I saw the primary results from Tuesday, 3/10/20, the morning after. Biden is the nominee.

It's disheartening to watch Bernie stay in the race, act as if he can still win, and to even keep opening campaign offices.

[brucejoel99]

Imo the race was lost when Clyburn endorsed. Clyburn's endorsement ended up being the first step in a chain-reaction that upended the race and turned out to be the most impactful endorsement of the primary by far and it wasn't even close in that regard.

I gave up thinking Bernie could come back and win once I saw the primary results from Tuesday, 3/10/20, the morning after. Biden is the nominee.

It's disheartening to watch Bernie stay in the race, act as if he can still win, and to even keep opening campaign offices.

I'd argue the race was lost even earlier: the Nevada debate. When Bloomberg got his ass handed to him by Warren, she also inadvertently handed the mantle of moderate standard bearer back to Biden, which arguably led to him clinching 2nd in Nevada, which led to the Clyburn endorsement, & so on & so forth, & the rest is history.

[Bidenworth2020]

Imo the race was lost when Clyburn endorsed. Clyburn's endorsement ended up being the first step in a chain-reaction that upended the race and turned out to be the most impactful endorsement of the primary by far and it wasn't even close in that regard.

I gave up thinking Bernie could come back and win once I saw the primary results from Tuesday, 3/10/20, the morning after. Biden is the nominee.

It's disheartening to watch Bernie stay in the race, act as if he can still win, and to even keep opening campaign offices.

I'd argue the race was lost even earlier: the Nevada debate. When Bloomberg got his ass handed to him by Warren, she also inadvertently handed the mantle of moderate standard bearer back to Biden, which arguably led to him clinching 2nd in Nevada, which led to the Clyburn endorsement, & so on & so forth, & the rest is history.

Maybe, but by the same token you could say the race was lost when Buttigieg didn't win New Hampshire, allowing Biden to get second in NV and win Nevada. In a race with so many moving parts, specifying one moment as "when it was over" is a futile goal.

[DINGO Joe]

Does anyone know if there are (preliminary) results for the March 17th primaries by congressional district yet? I wanted to see a breakdown, but I can't find one online.

Here's Florida

https://floridaelectionwatch.gov/FederalOffices/CongressionalDistricts

[brucejoel99]

Imo the race was lost when Clyburn endorsed. Clyburn's endorsement ended up being the first step in a chain-reaction that upended the race and turned out to be the most impactful endorsement of the primary by far and it wasn't even close in that regard.

I gave up thinking Bernie could come back and win once I saw the primary results from Tuesday, 3/10/20, the morning after. Biden is the nominee.

It's disheartening to watch Bernie stay in the race, act as if he can still win, and to even keep opening campaign offices.

I'd argue the race was lost even earlier: the Nevada debate. When Bloomberg got his ass handed to him by Warren, she also inadvertently handed the mantle of moderate standard bearer back to Biden, which arguably led to him clinching 2nd in Nevada, which led to the Clyburn endorsement, & so on & so forth, & the rest is history.

Maybe, but by the same token you could say the race was lost when Buttigieg didn't win New Hampshire, allowing Biden to get second in NV and win Nevada. In a race with so many moving parts, specifying one moment as "when it was over" is a futile goal.

Eh, not really. Buttigieg losing NH didn't help Biden so much as it hurt Buttigieg. Bloomberg crashing & burning is what truly helped Biden.

[Bidenworth2020]

Imo the race was lost when Clyburn endorsed. Clyburn's endorsement ended up being the first step in a chain-reaction that upended the race and turned out to be the most impactful endorsement of the primary by far and it wasn't even close in that regard.

I gave up thinking Bernie could come back and win once I saw the primary results from Tuesday, 3/10/20, the morning after. Biden is the nominee.

It's disheartening to watch Bernie stay in the race, act as if he can still win, and to even keep opening campaign offices.

I'd argue the race was lost even earlier: the Nevada debate. When Bloomberg got his ass handed to him by Warren, she also inadvertently handed the mantle of moderate standard bearer back to Biden, which arguably led to him clinching 2nd in Nevada, which led to the Clyburn endorsement, & so on & so forth, & the rest is history.

Maybe, but by the same token you could say the race was lost when Buttigieg didn't win New Hampshire, allowing Biden to get second in NV and win Nevada. In a race with so many moving parts, specifying one moment as "when it was over" is a futile goal.

Eh, not really. Buttigieg losing NH didn't help Biden so much as it hurt Buttigieg. Bloomberg crashing & burning is what truly helped Biden.

IIRC, Buttigieg was about 4 points away from Biden for second place. If he won NH, I have little doubt he would have leapfrogged Biden, which probably would have been game over.

[brucejoel99]

Imo the race was lost when Clyburn endorsed. Clyburn's endorsement ended up being the first step in a chain-reaction that upended the race and turned out to be the most impactful endorsement of the primary by far and it wasn't even close in that regard.

I gave up thinking Bernie could come back and win once I saw the primary results from Tuesday, 3/10/20, the morning after. Biden is the nominee.

It's disheartening to watch Bernie stay in the race, act as if he can still win, and to even keep opening campaign offices.

I'd argue the race was lost even earlier: the Nevada debate. When Bloomberg got his ass handed to him by Warren, she also inadvertently handed the mantle of moderate standard bearer back to Biden, which arguably led to him clinching 2nd in Nevada, which led to the Clyburn endorsement, & so on & so forth, & the rest is history.

Maybe, but by the same token you could say the race was lost when Buttigieg didn't win New Hampshire, allowing Biden to get second in NV and win Nevada. In a race with so many moving parts, specifying one moment as "when it was over" is a futile goal.

Eh, not really. Buttigieg losing NH didn't help Biden so much as it hurt Buttigieg. Bloomberg crashing & burning is what truly helped Biden.

IIRC, Buttigieg was about 4 points away from Biden for second place. If he won NH, I have little doubt he would have leapfrogged Biden, which probably would have been game over.

Buttigieg was never getting AA support, though, whereas Bloomberg was consistently performing well among African-Americans. That's why the latter was much more of a threat to Biden than the former.