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Haley/Ryan
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« on: August 31, 2021, 03:48:50 PM »

Latin America, Europe, the US…the political right is in shambles Wink.

Australia, India, Israel, Canada, Poland, France, Britain, the Netherlands, Italy, Ecuador, Colombia, most of Eastern Europe? And even the US isn't really a valid example, with Biden double digits underwater. It's rather strange to try and paint some global picture when Germany, Chile, Brazil, Argentina, Spain?, and New Zealand are the only examples of such a trend, and a good number of those countries are the result of left wing parties (ie the Greens) moving right.
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Haley/Ryan
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E: 9.03, S: -0.17

« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2021, 10:38:29 AM »

Latin America, Europe, the US…the political right is in shambles Wink.

Australia, India, Israel, Canada, Poland, France, Britain, the Netherlands, Italy, Ecuador, Colombia, most of Eastern Europe? And even the US isn't really a valid example, with Biden double digits underwater. It's rather strange to try and paint some global picture when Germany, Chile, Brazil, Argentina, Spain?, and New Zealand are the only examples of such a trend, and a good number of those countries are the result of left wing parties (ie the Greens) moving right.

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I have absolutely no idea what criteria are you using, for both sides. But in any case, I think you are treating that comment way too seriously.

Australia -- Liberals won in 2019 unexpectedly. Not in disarray.

Canada -- Conservatives leading in polls

Colombia -- Conservative government/dominance for last 30 years

And Argentina and Spain I said were places where the right was in disarray, not places where it wasn't.

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« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2021, 07:13:28 PM »

Wahl O Mat Results

75.6% FDP

74.4% AfD

59.8% CDU/CSU

32.9% SPD

20.7% Greens

20.7% Die Linke
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Libertas Vel Mors
Haley/Ryan
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« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2021, 04:46:52 PM »

CDU hold my constituency of Stuttgart II, which I did not expect. Despite a dismal showing in the Second Vote. Sad because both the SPD and Green candidates were great, just the left doesn't seem to be as good at voting tactically as the right is. Especially noticeable in Bavaria, where CSU are going to win 45/46 seats including all but one in Munich, which I don't think anyone saw coming.

Does it matter what constituency results are under MMP?
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Haley/Ryan
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« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2021, 01:33:17 PM »


You mean the London that's encircled by an impenetrable Green Belt?

That's hardly a good example of libertarian politics lol

I don't think there's a single example of sufficient housing regulation and bureaucracy cutting in the EU.

We have come to live with the expectation that planning and getting a building approved takes as long or longer than actually building it. Sprinkle in some ridiculous "green" standards into the mix, and you have beautiful, expensive, turtle speed construction.

Is there really any developed country that doesn't have problems with housing affordability in its major and most desirable cities?

Does Texas count? (Other Sunbelt states with lax regulations too).
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« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2021, 05:42:54 PM »

After I read some replies in this thread, it is important to become clear:

Die Linke IS NOT the former communists of the DDR. Die Linke was born as a merge of the PDS, which was the sucessor of the SED, and the WASG, a left-wing group that was a split of the SPD. The PDS itself was not like the SED. A minority in the PDS considered that the DDR was a very nice country.
Many Linke leaders weren't adults when the wall came down in 1989.
The SED was in the "authoritarian left" square of the political compass. Die Linke is in the "libertarian left" square. This party supported the legalization of the cannabis before all the SPD did it. Die Linke tries to be greener than the Greens, while the DDR didn't have a very good record in environment protection.
The 2021 polls showed that die Linke had 8% of the <24 vote and 4% of the >60 vote. It looks like that the old eastern Linke voters became very rare now.

Die Linke did very well in 2009, when few people had heard about Bernie Sanders, Jeremy Corbyn, Melechon, Pablo Iglesias and Alexis Tsipras. Germany was ahead of other high income countries in options on the left of the mainstream center-left. In the end of the 2010s, die Linke declined.

Would you consider it acceptable if only a "minority" of the AfD thought Nazi Germany was a very nice country?
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