2020 Presidential Election Results & Exit Polls commentary thread

[Not Me, Us]

This whole thread is just incredible...

https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/1324445099430940673?s=20

DMP was in tears during the call.

https://twitter.com/kirk_bado/status/1324445867663908870?s=20

How about they take responsibility for themselves? They should have run better races, it's not leadership's fault that they suck.

[ultraviolet]

This whole thread is just incredible...

https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/1324445099430940673?s=20

DMP was in tears during the call.

https://twitter.com/kirk_bado/status/1324445867663908870?s=20

I'm not sure about generally blaming the "liberal wing" of the party, but you have to admit their branding is God-awful. Progressives talk about how popular their ideas are, but progressives are often the ones that come up with these awful catchphrases. "Defund the police" is a guaranteed vote-loser, even if police reform is popular. Calling themselves "Democratic socialists" is a vote-loser, even if progressivism can be popular. I don't even understand that one, seeing as how they are social democrats at their leftmost.

This is clearly a problem with the Democratic Party in general, judging by the Florida minimum wage thing. The party needs rebranding before 2022/2024 (and this is coming from a moderate establishment™ dem who loves Pelosi)

[soundchaser]

This whole thread is just incredible...

https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/1324445099430940673?s=20

DMP was in tears during the call.

https://twitter.com/kirk_bado/status/1324445867663908870?s=20

I'm not sure about generally blaming the "liberal wing" of the party, but you have to admit their branding is God-awful. Progressives talk about how popular their ideas are, but progressives are often the ones that come up with these awful catchphrases. "Defund the police" is a guaranteed vote-loser, even if police reform is popular. Calling themselves "Democratic socialists" is a vote-loser, even if progressivism can be popular. I don't even understand that one, seeing as how they are social democrats at their leftmost.

I've been saying it for a while, but "ACAB" is such a failure of messaging. The sentiment behind it (even good people who are cops are part of an inherently racist system in need of reforming) is reasonable, but the phrase itself is just awful.

[Bootes Void]

This whole thread is just incredible...

https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/1324445099430940673?s=20

DMP was in tears during the call.

https://twitter.com/kirk_bado/status/1324445867663908870?s=20

How about they take responsibility for themselves? They should have run better races, it's not leadership's fault that they suck.

The Dems didn't do any door knocking or GOtv because of the pandemic, I wander how much it hurt them

[BudgieForce]

A few of the freshmen democrats losing is understandable given Trump was at the top of the ticket. Donna Shalala and Mucarsel-Powell however had no business losing. Democrats need to get some strong candidates and get these seats back in 2022. Even in a Biden mid-term, they'll be able to pick them back up.

[wbrocks67]

This whole thread is just incredible...

https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/1324445099430940673?s=20

DMP was in tears during the call.

https://twitter.com/kirk_bado/status/1324445867663908870?s=20

I'm not sure about generally blaming the "liberal wing" of the party, but you have to admit their branding is God-awful. Progressives talk about how popular their ideas are, but progressives are often the ones that come up with these awful catchphrases. "Defund the police" is a guaranteed vote-loser, even if police reform is popular. Calling themselves "Democratic socialists" is a vote-loser, even if progressivism can be popular. I don't even understand that one, seeing as how they are social democrats at their leftmost.

Conservatives know how to dress up an unpopular idea and make it sound good. For some reason, Liberals and Leftists seem to want to take popular ideas and make them sound bad.

While I agree that the far left is absolutely terrible at messaging and agree with Spanberger "don't say defund when that's not what we mean".... I also don't think that's necessarily what cost people their races. Like I don't think DTP or Socialism is why Span almost lost. It's probably a combination of things. Major polarization, more Rs came out to vote this year than in 2018 when Ds had more people out, and it truly appears that there was ticket splitting for "checks". Even blue districts are down from 2018 totals with Biden winning them by more! People seem to love a divided government for some reason.

[Roblox]

Apparently Robby Mook ran the DCCC this cycle lol.

[wbrocks67]

A few of the freshmen democrats losing is understandable given Trump was at the top of the ticket. Donna Shalala and Mucarsel-Powell however had no business losing. Democrats need to get some strong candidates and get these seats back in 2022. Even in a Biden mid-term, they'll be able to pick them back up.

This is true as well. Places that Trump won had less ticket splitting and I guess that shouldn't be surprising considering many Trump supporters are sycophants. Ds are more willing to cross over than Rs.

[Dr Oz Lost Party!]

I want to give DMP a big hug. This sucks.

[American2020]

So I presume GOP'd win the House this year.

[Bootes Void]

Apparently Robby Mook ran the DCCC this cycle lol.

That guy is a curse 🤣

[ꙮ]

This whole thread is just incredible...

https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/1324445099430940673?s=20

DMP was in tears during the call.

https://twitter.com/kirk_bado/status/1324445867663908870?s=20

I'm not sure about generally blaming the "liberal wing" of the party, but you have to admit their branding is God-awful. Progressives talk about how popular their ideas are, but progressives are often the ones that come up with these awful catchphrases. "Defund the police" is a guaranteed vote-loser, even if police reform is popular. Calling themselves "Democratic socialists" is a vote-loser, even if progressivism can be popular. I don't even understand that one, seeing as how they are social democrats at their leftmost.

I've been saying it for a while, but "ACAB" is such a failure of messaging. The sentiment behind it (even good people who are cops are part of an inherently racist system in need of reforming) is reasonable, but the phrase itself is just awful.

In fairness to the left-wing of the party, you don't really see many Democratic candidates chanting ACAB. If a group of protestors is doing that, there's really nothing you can do to stop it.

I agree though, there was a big messaging failure on police reform; even if the best policy proposals were coming from Democrats they weren't presented correctly.

[ProgressiveModerate]

A few of the freshmen democrats losing is understandable given Trump was at the top of the ticket. Donna Shalala and Mucarsel-Powell however had no business losing. Democrats need to get some strong candidates and get these seats back in 2022. Even in a Biden mid-term, they'll be able to pick them back up.

Though these seats may look totally different in 2022, especially since FL is netting a district or two. Never underestimate the Rs ability to gerrymander

[wbrocks67]

This whole thread is just incredible...

https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/1324445099430940673?s=20

DMP was in tears during the call.

https://twitter.com/kirk_bado/status/1324445867663908870?s=20

I'm not sure about generally blaming the "liberal wing" of the party, but you have to admit their branding is God-awful. Progressives talk about how popular their ideas are, but progressives are often the ones that come up with these awful catchphrases. "Defund the police" is a guaranteed vote-loser, even if police reform is popular. Calling themselves "Democratic socialists" is a vote-loser, even if progressivism can be popular. I don't even understand that one, seeing as how they are social democrats at their leftmost.

This is clearly a problem with the Democratic Party in general, judging by the Florida minimum wage thing. The party needs rebranding before 2022/2024 (and this is coming from a moderate establishment™ dem who loves Pelosi)

Eh, I think there's nuance though. Joe Biden way end up winning 300 EVs in the highest turnout in decades. There *are* issues but it looks like Biden also ended up doing a lot of things right.

[Bootes Void]

So I presume GOP'd win the House this year.

Doesn't seem like it, I expect Pa Dems to win most of their races. California might be interesting

[wbrocks67]

So I presume GOP'd win the House this year.

Dems would have to lose 20 seats. I don't think that's happening.

[Holmes]

I mean I’m glad Spanberger hung on but girl like.... complaining about a BLM attack ad against you and blaming leadership? It’s called a campaign. Learn to run one better next time so you can fight off these attacks.

[compucomp]

A few of the freshmen democrats losing is understandable given Trump was at the top of the ticket. Donna Shalala and Mucarsel-Powell however had no business losing. Democrats need to get some strong candidates and get these seats back in 2022. Even in a Biden mid-term, they'll be able to pick them back up.

I mean, their districts may have shifted from D+5 to R+5 when the Cubans decided to all vote R? And neither of them are Cuban? Not sure they could have avoided defeat in that environment. It's not their fault the "Biden is a socialist" messaging worked.

[Crumpets]

Apparently Robby Mook ran the DCCC this cycle lol.

Wait, did he really?

[wbrocks67]

So I presume GOP'd win the House this year.

Doesn't seem like it, I expect Pa Dems to win most of their races. California might be interesting

Yeah, looks like PA-01 and PA-10 won't flip and Wild will pull it out. Cartwright and Lamb are up. 9-9 we continue

[Kuumo]

A few of the freshmen democrats losing is understandable given Trump was at the top of the ticket. Donna Shalala and Mucarsel-Powell however had no business losing. Democrats need to get some strong candidates and get these seats back in 2022. Even in a Biden mid-term, they'll be able to pick them back up.

Though these seats may look totally different in 2022, especially since FL is netting a district or two. Never underestimate the Rs ability to gerrymander

Also never underestimate Democrats' ability to blow races in Florida.

[wbrocks67]

A few of the freshmen democrats losing is understandable given Trump was at the top of the ticket. Donna Shalala and Mucarsel-Powell however had no business losing. Democrats need to get some strong candidates and get these seats back in 2022. Even in a Biden mid-term, they'll be able to pick them back up.

I mean, their districts may have shifted from D+5 to R+5 when the Cubans decided to all vote R? And neither of them are Cuban? Not sure they could have avoided defeat in that environment. It's not their fault the "Biden is a socialist" messaging worked.

And honestly, there's nothing Biden could've done about that. If people are believing Joe Biden is a socialist of all people, there is probably no convincing them otherwise. Too far gone.

[Alben Barkley]

Judas Van Drew winning is probably the single most disappointing/infuriating result of the entire election. Against a Kennedy, too. MillennialModerate will REALLY be in shambles if that happens AND Georgia goes for Joe though.

[HisGrace]

This whole thread is just incredible...

https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/1324445099430940673?s=20

DMP was in tears during the call.

https://twitter.com/kirk_bado/status/1324445867663908870?s=20

I'm not sure about generally blaming the "liberal wing" of the party, but you have to admit their branding is God-awful. Progressives talk about how popular their ideas are, but progressives are often the ones that come up with these awful catchphrases. "Defund the police" is a guaranteed vote-loser, even if police reform is popular. Calling themselves "Democratic socialists" is a vote-loser, even if progressivism can be popular. I don't even understand that one, seeing as how they are social democrats at their leftmost.

I've been saying it for a while, but "ACAB" is such a failure of messaging. The sentiment behind it (even good people who are cops are part of an inherently racist system in need of reforming) is reasonable, but the phrase itself is just awful.

In fairness to the left-wing of the party, you don't really see many Democratic candidates chanting ACAB. If a group of protestors is doing that, there's really nothing you can do to stop it.

I agree though, there was a big messaging failure on police reform, even if the issue unquestionably favored Democrats.

The left completely blew all the post-Floyd momentum on criminal justice/police brutality. I was stunned at all the people who were ready to listen on that stuff but then all they ended up hearing was "abolish the police"  and people defending looters and arsonists. The cultural left completely wasted on opportunity to get a majority of people on board with sensible reforms.

[BigSerg]

2024 pls!!!!
https://twitter.com/HawleyMO/status/1324448622658965505?s=20