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Mr. Morden
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« on: March 26, 2016, 02:59:50 AM »

http://deadhomersociety.com/2013/10/05/quote-of-the-day-1658/

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Washington: Caucuses begin at 10am local time, which is 1pm ET
http://www.wa-democrats.org/page/2016-democratic-caucuses
CNN: http://edition.cnn.com/election/primaries/states/wa/Dem
NYT: http://www.nytimes.com/elections/2016/primaries/washington

Alaska: Caucuses run from 10am to 1pm local time, which is 2pm to 5pm ET
https://www.eventbrite.com/e/2016-alaska-district-caucus-pre-registration-tickets-20433090925
CNN: http://edition.cnn.com/election/primaries/states/ak/Dem
NYT: http://www.nytimes.com/elections/2016/primaries/alaska

Hawaii: Caucuses begin at 1pm local time, which is 7pm ET
http://hawaiidemocrats.org/presidential-preference-poll/
CNN: http://edition.cnn.com/election/primaries/states/hi/Dem
NYT: http://www.nytimes.com/elections/2016/primaries/hawaii


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« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2016, 05:22:52 PM »

Long lines for Hawaii caucus:

https://twitter.com/Maui_DetroitGal/status/713852359571480576

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Video of one of those lines:

https://twitter.com/CivilBeat/status/713848514841747457
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« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2016, 05:32:40 PM »

Looks like 73% of the vote is in in Alaska.  Do we know where these precincts are?  Neither CNN nor NYT seem to have regional breakdowns.
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« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2016, 05:35:51 PM »

Caucus line in Pahoa, Hawaii:


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« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2016, 06:14:35 PM »

More Hawaii caucus pics:






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« Reply #5 on: March 26, 2016, 06:34:17 PM »

I think all states should have primaries. And, I think if Washington Republicans can have a primary for delegates, Democrats should certainly do so as well. I would hope this is something the party can work on for the future once we have our nominee.

Agreed, but it sounds like the Washington Caucus is relatively new. Used to be a primary, but they switched.

Huh?  Caucuses have existed in Washington for many years, it's just that there's also a primary.  The Republicans have sometimes split the delegate allocation between caucuses and primary, but I don't think the primary has been used for delegate allocation on the Dem. side for a while.
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« Reply #6 on: March 26, 2016, 06:37:25 PM »

I think all states should have primaries. And, I think if Washington Republicans can have a primary for delegates, Democrats should certainly do so as well. I would hope this is something the party can work on for the future once we have our nominee.

Agreed, but it sounds like the Washington Caucus is relatively new. Used to be a primary, but they switched.

Huh?  Caucuses have existed in Washington for many years, it's just that there's also a primary.  The Republicans have sometimes split the delegate allocation between caucuses and primary, but I don't think the primary has been used for delegate allocation on the Dem. side for a while.

It's what I heard from CNN And MSNBC.

Well they're wrong.  Smiley

Just look up the primary calendar from years past.  The Washington caucuses have been around for a long time.  Though, like I said, there's also a primary that, for the Democratic side, usually isn't used for any delegate allocation and is purely a "beauty contest".
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« Reply #7 on: March 26, 2016, 06:45:44 PM »

https://twitter.com/Maui_DetroitGal/status/713869312939831296

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« Reply #8 on: March 26, 2016, 06:51:54 PM »

Hawaii ballot:



Again, with the alphabetical order.  Seems like virtually every caucus state uses alphabetical order.
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« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2016, 07:09:25 PM »

https://twitter.com/DrAnnieNguyen/status/713878529469849600

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https://twitter.com/LawrenceDownes/status/713877175816970240

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https://twitter.com/HawaiiShira/status/713877710930518016

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Looks like a lot of olds there:


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« Reply #10 on: March 26, 2016, 08:39:15 PM »

That said, you would expect 538 to be interested in patterns and results even if they won't effect the overall outcome, given the type of site it is.

They haven't been as religious about doing live blogs for all of the Saturday primary days.  They want us to think that they're regular people, who have things to do on Saturdays.  Even though we already know that they're nerds.
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« Reply #11 on: March 26, 2016, 08:52:27 PM »

North Dakota is NOT a caucus. It's a primary.
So was New Hampshire. Sanders will still win ND by about 60-40, not that it will change anything.

Everybody mention North Dakota is a caucus. I just corrected it.
WTF that has to do with New Hampshire and Sanders dude?

North Dakota is a caucus

The North Dakota Democratic Party's own website agrees:

http://demnpl.com/event-calendar/

It's a caucus.
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« Reply #12 on: March 26, 2016, 09:24:51 PM »

Why does Predictit have Bernie at 90%+ to win Hawaii and Betfair have him at 60?

Is Betfair much less liquid?

Hardly anyone bets in the individual state markets on Betfair.
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« Reply #13 on: March 26, 2016, 09:54:54 PM »

More Hawaii (not sure if this has already been mentioned):


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« Reply #14 on: March 26, 2016, 10:13:42 PM »


26 pages of quiet...
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« Reply #15 on: March 26, 2016, 11:29:35 PM »

Video of results being announced in Hilo:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xW5xOWCO49A&feature=youtu.be
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« Reply #16 on: March 27, 2016, 01:55:43 AM »

Indiana Jones and the Search for the Holy Hawaii Votes

Missing Hawaii votes means that we need to bring Joe Republic into this thread so he can explain what happened.
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