June "Election" 7

[tarheel-leftist85]

Supposing all the evangelicals run and split the vote, allowing Guliani to coast (which Reps. are smarter and more monolithic than that), I think this would be a Democratic landslide.  Map to follow.  Please vote and show maps if you want.

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Guilani / Rice? Hell, they might as go with Ken Lay / DeLay

[tarheel-leftist85]

Guliani/Rice-47.5% (159EV)
Warner/Lincoln-51.5% (379EV)
Others-1.0%

[Erc]

Guliani/Rice-47.5% (159EV)
Warner/Lincoln-51.5% (379EV)
Others-1.0%

Those figures are insoluable in that map...that's more like Warner 58 Guiliani 42....

As for what would actually happen?  Depends on what the nutjobs on the right think about a pro-choice/pro-choice candidacy.  Might see a quasi-Carteresque style realignment (especially with Lincoln on the ticket)...but it's likely that the Republicans would get shortchanged.

All in all, a weird, weird election, not very geographically polarized, most akin to '76....

[TheWildCard]

Giuliani/Rice is like one of my dream tickets! Yes its unlikely but it'd be a good set of people to have in those positions. Though, I doubt Giuliani has what it takes to go from Mayor to President.

[Smash255]

Guliani/Rice-47.5% (159EV)
Warner/Lincoln-51.5% (379EV)
Others-1.0%

Those figures are insoluable in that map...that's more like Warner 58 Guiliani 42....

As for what would actually happen?  Depends on what the nutjobs on the right think about a pro-choice/pro-choice candidacy.  Might see a quasi-Carteresque style realignment (especially with Lincoln on the ticket)...but it's likely that the Republicans would get shortchanged.

All in all, a weird, weird election, not very geographically polarized, most akin to '76....

Not to mention a Pro-Gay rights (who has hinted that he is pro gay mariage) & Pro Gun Control candidate

[tarheel-leftist85]

Good pt. about the EV/PV discrepancy.  But, consider that state-by-state turnout could answer this solubility factor: 
-What if the socially libertarian states stay home b/c they're not enthused? 
-Also, what if those that show up in said states vote dem. 51-44-5 instead of 54/44 and 58/40?  I also have GA, TX, and AL breaking 60% (I don't really consider those populist states anymore). 
-Wyoming and Alaska break 70% b/c socially-liberal minded people join the Reps.  Plus we have almost half of the Northeast going Rep. 

This would be an amazing election in so many ways!

[MAS117]

Mark Warner/Blanche Lincoln    

[Ronald Reagan]

I voted for Giuliani first, but I wish I could change it to Warner.

Edit - But I would probably support Giuliani just because he is a Republican.  And he and Warner would never get nomination.

[Ronald Reagan]

Warner - 273
Giuliani - 265

[Defarge]

I'd vote for Rudy, though I think Warner would win.

[© tweed]

Warner, he'd win too

[AuH2O]

Rudy would win New York. Easily.

[© tweed]

Rudy would win New York. Easily.

http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:6jBuKfMhirkJ:www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/051905_poll.pdf+rudy+giuliani+poll+new+york&hl=en

Not that he wouldn't have a shot, but him trailng by 10% in a hypothetical senate race means he wouldn't win NY easily.

[AuH2O]

Against Mark Warner, yes he would. By A LOT.

And I think he would take NJ fairly easily as well.

[angus]

Giuliani/Rice is like one of my dream tickets! Yes its unlikely but it'd be a good set of people to have in those positions. Though, I doubt Giuliani has what it takes to go from Mayor to President.

the guy that "cleaned up the the big apple" and Bush's hatchet lady.  Get your jackboots out folks.  Still, I think it's a winning ticket.  American's like hillbillies, as was evident from 1993 to 2001, but we like jackboots even better!

Rudeeee G in the house.  With special guest Condi the Blade.

got a nice ring, don't it? 

Seriously, though, I think a giuliani/rice ticket would sell better than a Warner/Lincoln ticket in the more nationalistic pockets of the USA.  Namely, the interior and the middle atlantic.  As for those still fighting the civil war, it's a tougher call, ask statesrights.  My guess is that Warner wins CA, Rudy wins TX, Rudy wins NY, Rudy wins FL.  That's a big chunk for rudy so far...

Go Rudy!  Go condi!  It's your birthday! 

[CARLHAYDEN]

Guliani would be a total disaster.

Rice isn't too bad, but Guliani would drive millions of conservatives to vote for a third party candidate.

[angus]

Funny about Giuliani.  I remember back in the 90s when I was from Boston and we'd go down to New York for the weekend, folks would talk about what a "jackboot-wearing fascist" he was, etc.  Now, after September 11, 2001, these same folks are calling him hero and "America's Mayor."  Not that I don't understand why there'd be admiration and hope in troubled times, but I was surprised at how short memories are.  Nevertheless, no matter how you feel about these things:  he can and should be credited (or blamed) for putting more cops on the streets, cleaning up the subways, responding appropriately during the terrorist attacks.  I'm not sure why you'd call him a disaster, or why conservatives wouldn't like a guy like this.  On the national stage, conservatives are nationalistic, concerned with defense, and want lower taxes and a business-friendly environment.  Rudy fits the bill.

I do agree with your sentiments about McCain, and I'm confounded that anyone would ever sing his praises.  Thus I can only conclude, as you do, that any perceived "support" for McCain is actually antipathy for his GOP rivals.

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Rudy would win New York. Easily.

No. If he's really lucky he takes NJ and CT.