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« Reply #25 on: October 15, 2016, 12:48:08 AM »


Han shot first
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« Reply #26 on: October 15, 2016, 09:55:55 AM »

don't really understand why are people are saying he murdered Hamilton. They were in a duel after all?

Hamilton did fire his weapon intentionally, and he fired first. But he aimed to miss Burr, sending his ball into the tree above and behind Burr's location. In so doing, he did not withhold his shot, but he did waste it, thereby honoring his pre-duel pledge. Meanwhile, Burr, who did not know about the pledge, did know that a projectile from Hamilton's gun had whizzed past him and crashed into the tree to his rear. According to the principles of the code duello, Burr was perfectly justified in taking deadly aim at Hamilton and firing to kill.
But did he? What is possible, but beyond the reach of the available evidence, is that Burr really missed his target, too, that his own fatal shot, in fact, was accidental


hamilto shot first, burr was fully justified in shooting.

That is true...well, maybe remove that criticism of him, but the others still stand. Still HP
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« Reply #27 on: October 15, 2016, 01:21:59 PM »

The plan was for the Republican electors to support Jefferson and Burr equally; Burr would then step aside and allow Jefferson to become president.
This is incorrect - there was never any plan for Burr to step aside. What was supposed to happen was that one DR elector wouldn't cast a ballot for Burr, preventing any issues, however, this never happened. I can't find anything giving a concrete reason why, although I'm guessing due to the difficulty of communication and weak party organization back then, nobody knew who was supposed to do that, so nobody did.
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There's no evidence this is true. The election went to Congress, as the Constitution mandated, and Federalists backed Burr to spite Jefferson.
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What voters, exactly? Outside of a few odd states, popular elections were not held, so I'm not sure how you know what the will of the voters was? Unless you mean the will of the electors, and, given the nature of early American politics, I'd be genuinely shocked if there weren't any electors (particularly in the state of New York) who didn't cast their votes hoping for Burr to win the presidency. Of course, going by this line that the will of the electors=the will of the voters, the will of the voters was to reelect Adams anyway.
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Yes, exactly - one party tries to subvert democracy and elect someone without their consent.  Just as Cheney didn't do anything wrong in this scenario (besides not killing himself, obviously) Burr didn't do anything wrong in 1800.
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« Reply #28 on: October 15, 2016, 02:17:34 PM »

don't really understand why are people are saying he murdered Hamilton. They were in a duel after all?

Hamilton did fire his weapon intentionally, and he fired first. But he aimed to miss Burr, sending his ball into the tree above and behind Burr's location. In so doing, he did not withhold his shot, but he did waste it, thereby honoring his pre-duel pledge. Meanwhile, Burr, who did not know about the pledge, did know that a projectile from Hamilton's gun had whizzed past him and crashed into the tree to his rear. According to the principles of the code duello, Burr was perfectly justified in taking deadly aim at Hamilton and firing to kill.
But did he? What is possible, but beyond the reach of the available evidence, is that Burr really missed his target, too, that his own fatal shot, in fact, was accidental


hamilto shot first, burr was fully justified in shooting.

Regardless of whether it was murder, he found it appropriate to slay one of America's greatest heroes, throwing America to the agrarian dogs and small-minded men. Burr, meanwhile, lived on to commit treason--by my recollection--twice in the following decade or so.
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