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« on: October 07, 2023, 12:05:29 PM »

Can we partition the thread and put a Beirut Wall up between discussion of ongoing events and the seminar on the Geopolitics of the Middle East since 1945?
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« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2023, 09:20:21 AM »

Israeli helicopters reported over southern Lebanon.
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« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2023, 08:07:14 AM »
« Edited: October 16, 2023, 09:50:05 AM by Cassius »

This is moronic . Gaza will have to be occupied and denazified first

Denazification didn't work in Germany, what makes you think it will work in Palestine?

How did it not work ?

- We turned Germany into a stable democracy pretty quickly just years after being led by the most evil regime in history . Germany also didn’t have a history of being a stable democracy as the Weimar Republic was a complete mess and the German Empire wasn’t really a monarchy

- We turned a nation that has been the biggest enemy to the West for 3 quarters of a century into one of our biggest Allies

- We even broke the toxic parts of Prussian nationalism that led Germans down not only the Nazi path but also their WW1 regime too




1. Germany had a long history of liberalism and parliamentarianism to work with (the Imperial Reichstag very much was not a rubber stamp body, even if it wasn’t as powerful as say, the UK parliament or US congress). The Nazi regime was arguably more of an aberration in German history than Weimar was.
2. I’m not a fan of the term ‘the West’ in general, but excluding the Germans from it at any point reduces the concept to total incoherence.
3. ‘Prussian nationalism’ (although I assume you mean Prussian militarism) as a driving factor behind the Nazi regime is largely a myth.

Anyway, Denazification did fail in the short term after World War II, as it was impossible to ‘Denazify’ a society in which so many had been party members or various other categories of Mitläufer. Just because the country returned to having a liberal parliamentary system does not mean that most Germans of the period necessarily accepted that everything done during the Nazi regime was wrong (and of course vast numbers of former party members and Miltäufer returned to positions in the government, military, business etc during the postwar period). Since the 1960s, Germany has developed a rather unique and self-effacing (one might call it self-flagellating) attitude, but that was very much due to an internal re-evaluation of Germany’s history by (generally) younger generations than due to anything imposed upon Germany by the Allies.
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« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2023, 09:55:05 AM »


I’m pretty sure most of Israel is on the same page regarding Bibi and Likud: a corrupt, authoritarian, petty, and above all incompetent leader who, judging from the international reactions a browse of Wikipedia garners, has led Israel into its worst national security situation since at least 1982 if not further back. Bibi and Likud have already managed to squander much of the goodwill and sympathy that Hamas’ barbaric attacks had gained Israel, and that’s before the ground invasion has even started. The absolute eclipse of Israeli soft power - and, to a shocking extent, hard power as well - that Bibi, Likud, and their even more horrifying coalition partners have been responsible for would justify an IDF coup in my opinion to save the country by trying and imprisoning those who were willing to destroy not just one but two nations in the pursuit of money and power. Oh, and draft every single eligible Haredi and send them in the first wave into Gaza because they’re responsible for this sh!tstorm too. I’m not surprised one bit that Bibi’s son is a draft dodger: like father, like son in putting their own desires ahead of their country’s. Maybe Israel could trade members of the extremist coalition for the release of hostages so that they could at least do one thing for their country before their inevitable and justified demise.

Surprised you posted this jaichind, Bibi seems like your type of guy.

Netanyahu the elder does at least have a very creditable military record.
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« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2023, 08:18:11 PM »



Based minister!

Time for sanctions against gentiles in visually abusive shirts.
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« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2023, 08:29:28 PM »



Based minister!

Time for sanctions against gentiles in visually abusive shirts.

I've seen what you posted before and it has been reported. Deleting your post and changing it won't help.

No need to resort to transphobia over something you disagree with (her being transgender is even irrelevant for the discussion). But thanks for proving my point i guess.

It was deleted for me! I would’ve happily left it there!
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