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« Reply #7725 on: May 29, 2024, 03:56:45 PM »

I am a Biden voter but people here are trying very hard to convert me to MAGA.
Leftists are far more effective at turning people into MAGAITES than even the most charismatic MAGA supporter.
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« Reply #7726 on: May 29, 2024, 04:38:29 PM »

I am a Biden voter but people here are trying very hard to convert me to MAGA.
Leftists are far more effective at turning people into MAGAITES than even the most charismatic MAGA supporter.

The comment was made with sarcasm. While I may vote for a future Republican, 2024 will almost certainly not be the year. AOC as nominee later on? Different story.
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« Reply #7727 on: May 29, 2024, 04:40:27 PM »

I am a Biden voter but people here are trying very hard to convert me to MAGA.
Leftists are far more effective at turning people into MAGAITES than even the most charismatic MAGA supporter.

The comment was made with sarcasm. While I may vote for a future Republican, 2024 will almost certainly not be the year. AOC as nominee later on? Different story.
Same as you on the sarcasm part well not 1:1 but similar i guess.
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« Reply #7728 on: May 29, 2024, 04:42:10 PM »

I am a Biden voter but people here are trying very hard to convert me to MAGA.

Guess this proves the whole horseshoe theory garbage incorrect.. There's basically nothing that could convert me to MAGA.

No, horseshoe theory is the far left supporting the same position as the far right and vice versa. I never was far left to begin with.
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« Reply #7729 on: May 29, 2024, 04:44:07 PM »

Leftism is becoming a bad addiction.

Socialism is the only way to fix social injustices. I will rather die to fight for the proletariat than sell out to the bourgeois ruling class. American conservatives and liberals are the same in maintaining the capitalist system that has caused misery across the world.
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« Reply #7730 on: May 29, 2024, 04:50:05 PM »

Leftism is becoming a bad addiction.

Socialism is the only way to fix social injustices. I will rather die to fight for the proletariat than sell out to the bourgeois ruling class. American conservatives and liberals are the same in maintaining the capitalist system that has caused misery across the world.

Okay Comrade, Cuba and Venezuela do not have any misery and feature extremely high standards of living. That is why everyone from these places would never dare sail or run to the US border! On second thought, please just spare us the bs. The idea this system of government is a force for good is well, a complete farce.
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« Reply #7731 on: May 29, 2024, 04:50:48 PM »
« Edited: May 29, 2024, 05:00:26 PM by pppolitics »

The second Trump wins the election (if he wins, which looks increasingly likely) Netanyahu will withdraw all troops from Gaza. Biden only gave him 99% of what he wanted, and that's not enough for the most pampered, entitled country on the planet.

The fact that supposed moderates like Gantz still haven't pulled their war cabinet support to stop this madness reflects awfully on their character too. This is a very sick society.

Leftists are completely delusional about what Palestinian culture is. They think this is some indigenous, peaceful tribe like Mayan civilization in 3000 BC (of course they are wrong about this too) when you listen to some of their language. Unfortunately, reality on the ground suggests if given the capacity they would kill every Jewish person they could.

I'm sure bombing refugee camps will totally change their culture.

Both Gantz and Galland gave a three week deadline that hasn’t passed yet

Not holding my breath.

What is your solution to the conflict then? Eliminate Israel's Jewish majority?

Yeah.

End of minority rule (apartheid).

Glad you finally just came clean about the end game. You danced around it for months. Why is it that Israel gets eliminated but other countries like the Netherlands, Hungary, Romania don't? Couldn't at all be because of the country's Jewish majority? There is no minority rule because the West Bank and Gaza are to be part of a Palestinian state, not Israel.

It must be a scary prospect for Jews to be treated by Palestinians the way Palestinians are treated by Jews right now.

If you treat others the way that you want to be treated, it wouldn't be so scary when the shoe is on the other foot.
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« Reply #7732 on: May 29, 2024, 05:02:59 PM »

Leftism is becoming a bad addiction.

Socialism is the only way to fix social injustices. I will rather die to fight for the proletariat than sell out to the bourgeois ruling class. American conservatives and liberals are the same in maintaining the capitalist system that has caused misery across the world.

Okay Comrade, Cuba and Venezuela do not have any misery and feature extremely high standards of living. That is why everyone from these places would never dare sail or run to the US border! On second thought, please just spare us the bs. The idea this system of government is a force for good is well, a complete farce.

Look at the achievements of Thomas Sankara, the revolutionary leader of Bukina Faso. The country was in dire shape when he took over in 1983, as one of the poorest nations on the African continent. Pushing back against the aid of the World Bank, Sankara led the country out of poverty, led a successful vaccine program, planted trees to fight against climate change, built a modern  transportation system. All within a span of four years before being assassinated by his "friend" in a coup that was planned by the French.
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« Reply #7733 on: May 29, 2024, 05:10:32 PM »

Leftism is becoming a bad addiction.

Socialism is the only way to fix social injustices. I will rather die to fight for the proletariat than sell out to the bourgeois ruling class. American conservatives and liberals are the same in maintaining the capitalist system that has caused misery across the world.

Okay Comrade, Cuba and Venezuela do not have any misery and feature extremely high standards of living. That is why everyone from these places would never dare sail or run to the US border! On second thought, please just spare us the bs. The idea this system of government is a force for good is well, a complete farce.

Look at the achievements of Thomas Sankara, the revolutionary leader of Bukina Faso. The country was in dire shape when he took over in 1983, as one of the poorest nations on the African continent. Pushing back against the aid of the World Bank, Sankara led the country out of poverty, led a successful vaccine program, planted trees to fight against climate change, built a modern  transportation system. All within a span of four years before being assassinated by his "friend" in a coup that was planned by the French.
Oh yes let conveniently ignore The crimes of kim-jong un and his dad and grandfather crimes, Xi jinping, Josef stalin, Pol pot, mao zedong, Lenin and a few other socialist dictators because oh look at this socialist, he didn't kill a good percentage of his population by famine and purges.
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« Reply #7734 on: May 29, 2024, 05:13:08 PM »
« Edited: May 30, 2024, 09:01:34 AM by afleitch »

Support for Israel's War Is Shaking My Faith in America's Jewish Community

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It's been terribly distressing to be a Jew in America since the attacks on Israel on October 7 by Hamas, but not for the reasons you might think.

I am a Jew who has supported the cause of Palestinian emancipation for decades now. I have found the American Jewish community an increasingly difficult and uncertain place ever since the war began.

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https://www.newsweek.com/support-israels-war-shaking-my-faith-americas-jewish-community-opinion-1904582
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« Reply #7735 on: May 29, 2024, 06:05:44 PM »

Leftism is becoming a bad addiction.

Socialism is the only way to fix social injustices. I will rather die to fight for the proletariat than sell out to the bourgeois ruling class. American conservatives and liberals are the same in maintaining the capitalist system that has caused misery across the world.

Okay Comrade, Cuba and Venezuela do not have any misery and feature extremely high standards of living. That is why everyone from these places would never dare sail or run to the US border! On second thought, please just spare us the bs. The idea this system of government is a force for good is well, a complete farce.

Look at the achievements of Thomas Sankara, the revolutionary leader of Bukina Faso. The country was in dire shape when he took over in 1983, as one of the poorest nations on the African continent. Pushing back against the aid of the World Bank, Sankara led the country out of poverty, led a successful vaccine program, planted trees to fight against climate change, built a modern  transportation system. All within a span of four years before being assassinated by his "friend" in a coup that was planned by the French.

You have got to be **** kidding me. Burkina Faso's Human Development Index value for 2022 is 0.44 — which put the country in the Low human development category — positioning it at 196 out of 204 countries and territories.

That's the equivalent of saying a random NBA player on the back of the bench is better than Michael Jordan. You live in Massachusetts, one of the richest states in the richest country and this guy is your hero?
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« Reply #7736 on: May 29, 2024, 06:28:54 PM »

Netanyahu frequently makes claims of antisemitism. Critics say he’s deflecting from his own problems

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TEL AVIV, Israel (AP) — After the International Criminal Court’s top prosecutor sought arrest warrants for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, his defense minister and top Hamas officials, the Israeli leader accused him of being one of “the great antisemites in modern times.”

As protests roiled college campuses across the United States over the Gaza war, Netanyahu said they were awash with “antisemitic mobs.”

These are just two of the many instances during the war in which Netanyahu has accused critics of Israel or his policies of antisemitism, using fiery rhetoric to compare them to the Jewish people’s worst persecutors. But his detractors say he is overusing the label to further his political agenda and try to stifle even legitimate criticism, and that doing so risks diluting the term’s meaning at a time when antisemitism is surging worldwide.

“Not every criticism against Israel is antisemitic,” said Tom Segev, an Israeli historian. “The moment you say it is antisemitic hate ... you take away all legitimacy from the criticism and try to crush the debate.”

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https://apnews.com/article/israel-netanyahu-antisemitism-campus-05ebd71bec931a62f58e7d5f9e93fa19
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« Reply #7737 on: May 29, 2024, 06:32:35 PM »
« Edited: May 30, 2024, 09:00:35 AM by afleitch »

The ICC spying revelations show the Israeli government to be a lawless regime

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I should not be surprised at the lawlessness of a government that bombs and starves Palestinian civilians in Gaza, but I was still shocked by the shamelessness of Israel’s efforts to subvert the international criminal court’s investigation of its war crimes. As exposed by the Guardian along with the Israeli media outlets +972 and Local Call, the Israeli government over the course of nine years “deployed its intelligence agencies to surveil, hack, pressure, smear and allegedly threaten senior ICC staff in an effort to derail the court’s inquiries”.
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https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/may/29/international-criminal-court-israel-spying-intimidation
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« Reply #7738 on: May 29, 2024, 06:34:13 PM »

Netanyahu frequently makes claims of antisemitism. Critics say he’s deflecting from his own problems

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TEL AVIV, Israel (AP) — After the International Criminal Court’s top prosecutor sought arrest warrants for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, his defense minister and top Hamas officials, the Israeli leader accused him of being one of “the great antisemites in modern times.”

As protests roiled college campuses across the United States over the Gaza war, Netanyahu said they were awash with “antisemitic mobs.”

These are just two of the many instances during the war in which Netanyahu has accused critics of Israel or his policies of antisemitism, using fiery rhetoric to compare them to the Jewish people’s worst persecutors. But his detractors say he is overusing the label to further his political agenda and try to stifle even legitimate criticism, and that doing so risks diluting the term’s meaning at a time when antisemitism is surging worldwide.

“Not every criticism against Israel is antisemitic,” said Tom Segev, an Israeli historian. “The moment you say it is antisemitic hate ... you take away all legitimacy from the criticism and try to crush the debate.”

[...]

https://apnews.com/article/israel-netanyahu-antisemitism-campus-05ebd71bec931a62f58e7d5f9e93fa19

These leftist groups like JVP represent American Jews as well as "blacks for Trump" represents African-Americans. Anyone mentioning "76 year" occupation are just those who oppose the country existing.
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« Reply #7739 on: May 29, 2024, 06:42:29 PM »

Netanyahu frequently makes claims of antisemitism. Critics say he’s deflecting from his own problems

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TEL AVIV, Israel (AP) — After the International Criminal Court’s top prosecutor sought arrest warrants for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, his defense minister and top Hamas officials, the Israeli leader accused him of being one of “the great antisemites in modern times.”

As protests roiled college campuses across the United States over the Gaza war, Netanyahu said they were awash with “antisemitic mobs.”

These are just two of the many instances during the war in which Netanyahu has accused critics of Israel or his policies of antisemitism, using fiery rhetoric to compare them to the Jewish people’s worst persecutors. But his detractors say he is overusing the label to further his political agenda and try to stifle even legitimate criticism, and that doing so risks diluting the term’s meaning at a time when antisemitism is surging worldwide.

“Not every criticism against Israel is antisemitic,” said Tom Segev, an Israeli historian. “The moment you say it is antisemitic hate ... you take away all legitimacy from the criticism and try to crush the debate.”

[...]

https://apnews.com/article/israel-netanyahu-antisemitism-campus-05ebd71bec931a62f58e7d5f9e93fa19

These leftist groups like JVP represent American Jews as well as "blacks for Trump" represents African-Americans. Anyone mentioning "76 year" occupation are just those who oppose the country existing.

You (and many others) continue to ignore Nakba as a critical moment of Israel's history.
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« Reply #7740 on: May 29, 2024, 07:11:35 PM »

Netanyahu frequently makes claims of antisemitism. Critics say he’s deflecting from his own problems

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TEL AVIV, Israel (AP) — After the International Criminal Court’s top prosecutor sought arrest warrants for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, his defense minister and top Hamas officials, the Israeli leader accused him of being one of “the great antisemites in modern times.”

As protests roiled college campuses across the United States over the Gaza war, Netanyahu said they were awash with “antisemitic mobs.”

These are just two of the many instances during the war in which Netanyahu has accused critics of Israel or his policies of antisemitism, using fiery rhetoric to compare them to the Jewish people’s worst persecutors. But his detractors say he is overusing the label to further his political agenda and try to stifle even legitimate criticism, and that doing so risks diluting the term’s meaning at a time when antisemitism is surging worldwide.

“Not every criticism against Israel is antisemitic,” said Tom Segev, an Israeli historian. “The moment you say it is antisemitic hate ... you take away all legitimacy from the criticism and try to crush the debate.”

[...]

https://apnews.com/article/israel-netanyahu-antisemitism-campus-05ebd71bec931a62f58e7d5f9e93fa19

These leftist groups like JVP represent American Jews as well as "blacks for Trump" represents African-Americans. Anyone mentioning "76 year" occupation are just those who oppose the country existing.

You (and many others) continue to ignore Nakba as a critical moment of Israel's history.

Yes, the relocation of Palestinian Arabs was the only major population transfer of the 1940s. All of the Jews from Europe moved to the region voluntarily and not at all as a result of the Nazi invasion of Eastern Europe. No ethnic Germans were ever displaced and of course 850,000-900,000 Mizrahi Jews remained in peace and harmony in Arab countries.

The difference with these latter groups is they have built their lives in their new countries. The Palestinians have taken a darker path and decided to mooch off UN and NGOs while not making even the slightest of concessions (recognizing Israel in 1967 lines) that would vastly improve their material situation.
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« Reply #7741 on: May 29, 2024, 07:46:00 PM »

The second Trump wins the election (if he wins, which looks increasingly likely) Netanyahu will withdraw all troops from Gaza. Biden only gave him 99% of what he wanted, and that's not enough for the most pampered, entitled country on the planet.

The fact that supposed moderates like Gantz still haven't pulled their war cabinet support to stop this madness reflects awfully on their character too. This is a very sick society.

Leftists are completely delusional about what Palestinian culture is. They think this is some indigenous, peaceful tribe like Mayan civilization in 3000 BC (of course they are wrong about this too) when you listen to some of their language. Unfortunately, reality on the ground suggests if given the capacity they would kill every Jewish person they could.

I'm sure bombing refugee camps will totally change their culture.

Both Gantz and Galland gave a three week deadline that hasn’t passed yet

Not holding my breath.

What is your solution to the conflict then? Eliminate Israel's Jewish majority?

Yeah.

End of minority rule (apartheid).

Glad you finally just came clean about the end game. You danced around it for months. Why is it that Israel gets eliminated but other countries like the Netherlands, Hungary, Romania don't? Couldn't at all be because of the country's Jewish majority? There is no minority rule because the West Bank and Gaza are to be part of a Palestinian state, not Israel.

It must be a scary prospect for Jews to be treated by Palestinians the way Palestinians are treated by Jews right now.

If you treat others the way that you want to be treated, it wouldn't be so scary when the shoe is on the other foot.
Yes, the Jews need to know what it’s like to be oppressed, they’ve never known that before
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« Reply #7742 on: May 29, 2024, 09:13:48 PM »

The second Trump wins the election (if he wins, which looks increasingly likely) Netanyahu will withdraw all troops from Gaza. Biden only gave him 99% of what he wanted, and that's not enough for the most pampered, entitled country on the planet.

The fact that supposed moderates like Gantz still haven't pulled their war cabinet support to stop this madness reflects awfully on their character too. This is a very sick society.

Leftists are completely delusional about what Palestinian culture is. They think this is some indigenous, peaceful tribe like Mayan civilization in 3000 BC (of course they are wrong about this too) when you listen to some of their language. Unfortunately, reality on the ground suggests if given the capacity they would kill every Jewish person they could.

I'm sure bombing refugee camps will totally change their culture.

Both Gantz and Galland gave a three week deadline that hasn’t passed yet

Not holding my breath.

What is your solution to the conflict then? Eliminate Israel's Jewish majority?

Yeah.

End of minority rule (apartheid).

Glad you finally just came clean about the end game. You danced around it for months. Why is it that Israel gets eliminated but other countries like the Netherlands, Hungary, Romania don't? Couldn't at all be because of the country's Jewish majority? There is no minority rule because the West Bank and Gaza are to be part of a Palestinian state, not Israel.

It must be a scary prospect for Jews to be treated by Palestinians the way Palestinians are treated by Jews right now.

If you treat others the way that you want to be treated, it wouldn't be so scary when the shoe is on the other foot.
Yes, the Jews need to know what it’s like to be oppressed, they’ve never known that before

Younger Jews (who are by far more right-wing than older generations) who grow up in a relatively wealthy Israel certainly don't.
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« Reply #7743 on: May 29, 2024, 09:38:18 PM »

Netanyahu frequently makes claims of antisemitism. Critics say he’s deflecting from his own problems

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TEL AVIV, Israel (AP) — After the International Criminal Court’s top prosecutor sought arrest warrants for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, his defense minister and top Hamas officials, the Israeli leader accused him of being one of “the great antisemites in modern times.”

As protests roiled college campuses across the United States over the Gaza war, Netanyahu said they were awash with “antisemitic mobs.”

These are just two of the many instances during the war in which Netanyahu has accused critics of Israel or his policies of antisemitism, using fiery rhetoric to compare them to the Jewish people’s worst persecutors. But his detractors say he is overusing the label to further his political agenda and try to stifle even legitimate criticism, and that doing so risks diluting the term’s meaning at a time when antisemitism is surging worldwide.

“Not every criticism against Israel is antisemitic,” said Tom Segev, an Israeli historian. “The moment you say it is antisemitic hate ... you take away all legitimacy from the criticism and try to crush the debate.”

[...]

https://apnews.com/article/israel-netanyahu-antisemitism-campus-05ebd71bec931a62f58e7d5f9e93fa19

These leftist groups like JVP represent American Jews as well as "blacks for Trump" represents African-Americans. Anyone mentioning "76 year" occupation are just those who oppose the country existing.

You (and many others) continue to ignore Nakba as a critical moment of Israel's history.

Yes, the relocation of Palestinian Arabs was the only major population transfer of the 1940s. All of the Jews from Europe moved to the region voluntarily and not at all as a result of the Nazi invasion of Eastern Europe. No ethnic Germans were ever displaced and of course 850,000-900,000 Mizrahi Jews remained in peace and harmony in Arab countries.

The difference with these latter groups is they have built their lives in their new countries. The Palestinians have taken a darker path and decided to mooch off UN and NGOs while not making even the slightest of concessions (recognizing Israel in 1967 lines) that would vastly improve their material situation.

From Snyder - Reconstruction of nations


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Lithuania was a special case. Lithuania was not regarded as having been de
 jure incorporated by the Soviet Union; it formally declared independence well
 before the end of the Soviet Union (in March ); and its independence de
mands triggered revanchist claims from the sizable Polish diaspora in Lithua
nia. Poland formally recognized Lithuanian independence in August , as
 the second state (after Iceland) to do so. During the prior two years, Sku
biszewski said that Lithuania’s aspirations should be fulfilled in accordance
 with international law.13 Between  and , representatives of the Polish
 minority within Lithuania seriously compromised the Polish state’s efforts by
 demanding territorial autonomy. The Polish state distanced itself from such
 claims. Kostrzewa-Zorbas’s October  memorandum contended that the
 only partner for the Polish state was the Lithuanian opposition group Sa˛ju¯dis,
 and that Poland should do nothing to justify Lithuanian fears of Polish revan
chism. Kostrzewa-Zorbas believed that Lithuanian fears of Poland were more
 justified than Polish fears of Germany—and put this judgment on paper a year
 before Poland and Germany signed a border treaty.14 Skubiszewski consistently
 declared that Poland had no territorial claims upon Lithuania or any other east
ern neighbor, and told advocates of border revisions that their preferred course
 would bring about bloody war and provoke German demands in the west.15

Vilnius/Wilno was somewhere around 65% Polish and 20% Jewish before 1940. When Stalin invaded Poland and the Baltics he gave Lithuania Vilnius because it was a historical capital. Yet Poland moved on and understood and it to this day remains one of the fastest growing economies in the world.
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« Reply #7744 on: May 29, 2024, 10:03:38 PM »

The second Trump wins the election (if he wins, which looks increasingly likely) Netanyahu will withdraw all troops from Gaza. Biden only gave him 99% of what he wanted, and that's not enough for the most pampered, entitled country on the planet.

The fact that supposed moderates like Gantz still haven't pulled their war cabinet support to stop this madness reflects awfully on their character too. This is a very sick society.

Leftists are completely delusional about what Palestinian culture is. They think this is some indigenous, peaceful tribe like Mayan civilization in 3000 BC (of course they are wrong about this too) when you listen to some of their language. Unfortunately, reality on the ground suggests if given the capacity they would kill every Jewish person they could.

I'm sure bombing refugee camps will totally change their culture.

Both Gantz and Galland gave a three week deadline that hasn’t passed yet

Not holding my breath.

What is your solution to the conflict then? Eliminate Israel's Jewish majority?

Yeah.

End of minority rule (apartheid).

Glad you finally just came clean about the end game. You danced around it for months. Why is it that Israel gets eliminated but other countries like the Netherlands, Hungary, Romania don't? Couldn't at all be because of the country's Jewish majority? There is no minority rule because the West Bank and Gaza are to be part of a Palestinian state, not Israel.

It must be a scary prospect for Jews to be treated by Palestinians the way Palestinians are treated by Jews right now.

If you treat others the way that you want to be treated, it wouldn't be so scary when the shoe is on the other foot.
Yes, the Jews need to know what it’s like to be oppressed, they’ve never known that before

Younger Jews (who are by far more right-wing than older generations) who grow up in a relatively wealthy Israel certainly don't.

A lot of young Israeli Jews have a great-grandparent who was murdered in the Holocaust. No one needs a reminder from white leftists about how they are "not oppressed."
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« Reply #7745 on: May 29, 2024, 10:22:22 PM »

The second Trump wins the election (if he wins, which looks increasingly likely) Netanyahu will withdraw all troops from Gaza. Biden only gave him 99% of what he wanted, and that's not enough for the most pampered, entitled country on the planet.

The fact that supposed moderates like Gantz still haven't pulled their war cabinet support to stop this madness reflects awfully on their character too. This is a very sick society.

Leftists are completely delusional about what Palestinian culture is. They think this is some indigenous, peaceful tribe like Mayan civilization in 3000 BC (of course they are wrong about this too) when you listen to some of their language. Unfortunately, reality on the ground suggests if given the capacity they would kill every Jewish person they could.

I'm sure bombing refugee camps will totally change their culture.

Both Gantz and Galland gave a three week deadline that hasn’t passed yet

Not holding my breath.

What is your solution to the conflict then? Eliminate Israel's Jewish majority?

Yeah.

End of minority rule (apartheid).

Glad you finally just came clean about the end game. You danced around it for months. Why is it that Israel gets eliminated but other countries like the Netherlands, Hungary, Romania don't? Couldn't at all be because of the country's Jewish majority? There is no minority rule because the West Bank and Gaza are to be part of a Palestinian state, not Israel.

It must be a scary prospect for Jews to be treated by Palestinians the way Palestinians are treated by Jews right now.

If you treat others the way that you want to be treated, it wouldn't be so scary when the shoe is on the other foot.
Yes, the Jews need to know what it’s like to be oppressed, they’ve never known that before

Younger Jews (who are by far more right-wing than older generations) who grow up in a relatively wealthy Israel certainly don't.

A lot of young Israeli Jews have a great-grandparent who was murdered in the Holocaust. No one needs a reminder from white leftists about how they are "not oppressed."

Their great-grandparents would be horrified by what Israel is doing right now.
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« Reply #7746 on: May 29, 2024, 10:26:25 PM »

Aid Groups in Rafah Say Israel’s Advance Is Pushing Them Out

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Israel’s offensive in the southern city of Rafah has strained medical and humanitarian services to the breaking point, aid workers say, with only one hospital still functioning and several aid operations forced to decamp to other parts of the Gaza Strip.

The health care crisis in the city has been compounded by the closure of emergency clinics and other services amid continued clashes and strikes that have killed dozens of civilians.

On Sunday, a strike that Israel said was aimed at a Hamas compound set ablaze a camp for the displaced in Rafah, killing 45 people, according to the Gazan health ministry. Another strike on Tuesday in Al-Mawasi, on the outskirts of Rafah, killed 21 people and injured dozens, the ministry said.

Among the aid operations that have shuttered this week are a field hospital run by the Palestinian Red Crescent, a clinic supported by Doctors Without Borders and kitchens run by World Central Kitchen.

“As Israeli attacks intensify on Rafah, the unpredictable trickle of aid into Gaza has created a mirage of improved access, while the humanitarian response is in reality on the verge of collapse,” 19 aid groups said in a joint statement on Tuesday.

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https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/29/world/middleeast/gaza-rafah-aid-hospitals.html
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« Reply #7747 on: May 29, 2024, 10:30:39 PM »

The BBC Is Afraid to Report the Facts About Israel’s War

A BBC journalist writes that editors at the broadcaster are afraid of reprimand from their bosses for reporting that displeases the Israeli government, leading to the BBC’s consistently holding back from reporting the full horrors of Israel’s war on Gaza.

https://jacobin.com/2024/05/bbc-gaza-reporting-bias
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« Reply #7748 on: May 29, 2024, 10:30:56 PM »



A lot of young Israeli Jews have a great-grandparent who was murdered in the Holocaust. No one needs a reminder from white leftists about how they are "not oppressed."
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Their great-grandparents would be horrified by what Israel is doing right now.
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« Reply #7749 on: May 29, 2024, 10:45:14 PM »

Biden's $1 billion weapons package to Israel is coming back to haunt him

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Biden appears weak

Andrew Payne, an expert on US foreign policy and a lecturer at City, University of London, told BI that Biden's handling of the Gaza war could harm his chances in the upcoming election.

"No one's going in and saying, 'I didn't like the arms deal back in May, so I guess I'll go for Trump,' right?" Payne said. "Instead, the way that the politics of foreign policy works is you tend to vote for candidates who project images that you like. And in the American context, people want their commanders in chief to be tough, to be competent, to be strong."

Payne's comments echoed analysts who said Biden's handling of the war was one of the issues that had corroded his support among younger voters.

"I think Biden's problem is that for several months now, his policies have not managed to shift the dial of Israeli behavior, and that makes him appear relatively weak," Payne added.

Dave Harden, a former mission director at the US Agency for International Development in the West Bank and Gaza, told the BBC in March that Netanyahu "almost treats Biden as some kind of inconsequential second secretary of a low-ranked European power."

"The gap between Israel and the US," he said, "just deepens."

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https://www.businessinsider.com/biden-billion-weapon-package-israel-haunt-him-rafah-red-line-2024-5
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