Israel-Gaza war

[emailking]

US pier constructed off Gaza has broken apart

The temporary pier constructed by the US military to transport aid into Gaza broke apart and sustained damage in heavy seas on Tuesday in a major blow to the American-led effort to create a maritime corridor for humanitarian supplies into the war-torn enclave, the Pentagon said.

The pier was “damaged and sections of the pier need rebuilding and repairing,” Pentagon deputy press secretary Sabrina Singh said on Tuesday. The pier will be removed from its location on the Gaza coast over the next 48 hours and taken to the Israeli port of Ashdod, where US Central Command will carry out repairs, Singh said. The repairs will take more than a week, further delaying the effort to get the maritime corridor fully operating.

Earlier, four US officials told CNN the pier broke apart in heavy seas.

Part of the pier, which consists of a narrow causeway to drive aid into Gaza and a wider parking area to drop off supplies transported by ship, disconnected on Sunday, the officials said. The parking area will have to be reconnected to the causeway before the pier can be used again.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/28/politics/us-gaza-pier-broken-apart/index.html

So Biden Entire pier operation have been utter failure with it sinking in less than 2 weeks and wasted half a billion dollars?
What effect will this have on his reelection campaign

I doubt any.

[All Along The Watchtower]

I don’t really get why Rafah is some sort of special red line.

Biden is just following the example paved by the most recent Democratic President before him.

Who also ignored the red line he had previously set when it was crossed. 

That was what I was getting at, yes.

[Meclazine for Israel]

Israel are saying they have the proof that the fire was not their weapons.

Hamas Weapons Fire

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C7hPrsxJmiu/

Again, the media jumped on Hamas' version of the story without checking the facts.

[pppolitics]

Another senior State official resigns over Gaza, taking aim at aid

A career State Department official involved in the Biden administration’s contentious debates over Israel’s conduct in Gaza resigned this week, citing disagreements with a recently published U.S. government report that claimed that Israel was not impeding humanitarian assistance to Gaza, two officials told The Washington Post.

The outgoing official, Stacy Gilbert, served in the State Department’s Bureau of Population, Refugees and Migration. Gilbert sent an email to staff Tuesday explaining her view that the State Department was wrong to conclude that Israel had not obstructed humanitarian assistance to Gaza, officials who read the letter said.

The cause for resignation is unusual in that it speaks to internal dissent over a hotly disputed report that the Biden administration relied on to justify continuing to send billions of dollars of weapons to Israel.

[...]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/05/28/state-department-official-resigns-gilbert/

[pppolitics]

Spying, hacking and intimidation: Israel’s nine-year ‘war’ on the ICC exposed

When the chief prosecutor of the international criminal court (ICC) announced he was seeking arrest warrants against Israeli and Hamas leaders, he issued a cryptic warning: “I insist that all attempts to impede, intimidate or improperly influence the officials of this court must cease immediately.”

Karim Khan did not provide specific details of attempts to interfere in the ICC’s work, but he noted a clause in the court’s foundational treaty that made any such interference a criminal offence. If the conduct continued, he added, “my office will not hesitate to act”.

The prosecutor did not say who had attempted to intervene in the administration of justice, or how exactly they had done so.

Now, an investigation by the Guardian and the Israeli-based magazines +972 and Local Call can reveal how Israel has run an almost decade-long secret “war” against the court. The country deployed its intelligence agencies to surveil, hack, pressure, smear and allegedly threaten senior ICC staff in an effort to derail the court’s inquiries.

Israeli intelligence captured the communications of numerous ICC officials, including Khan and his predecessor as prosecutor, Fatou Bensouda, intercepting phone calls, messages, emails and documents.

The surveillance was ongoing in recent months, providing Israel’s prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, with advance knowledge of the prosecutor’s intentions. A recent intercepted communication suggested that Khan wanted to issue arrest warrants against Israelis but was under “tremendous pressure from the United States”, according to a source familiar with its contents.

[...]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/may/28/spying-hacking-intimidation-israel-war-icc-exposed

[Silent Hunter]

I don’t really get why Rafah is some sort of special red line. Israel made it clear in the beginning that would go anywhere in Gaza to root out Hamas, and the USA made it clear that it would support Israel in doing that. If Hamas is based out of Rafah, it would seem as if Israel should be allowed to conduct military operations there.

They’ve pushed most Palestinians in Gaza into Rafah, so attacking the city has the potential to inflict massive civilian casualties.

A lot of them have left Rafah now.

[Meclazine for Israel]

Hamas still firing missiles intonIsrael from....Rafah.

Israeli Perspective

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C7h1VurRweL/

[CumbrianLefty]

Israel are saying they have the proof that the fire was not their weapons.

Yes, a likely story.

[Ancestral Republican]

Israel are saying they have the proof that the fire was not their weapons.

Yes, a likely story.

We're all trying to find the guy who did this.

[pppolitics]

Israel says Gaza war likely to last another seven months as tanks probe Rafah

CAIRO, May 29 (Reuters) - Israel sent tanks on raids into Rafah on Wednesday and said its war on Hamas in Gaza would likely continue all year, after Washington said the Rafah assault did not amount to a major ground operation that would trigger a change in U.S. policy.
Israeli tanks moved into the heart of Rafah for the first time on Tuesday, despite an order from the International Court of Justice to end its attacks on the city, where many Palestinians had taken refuge from widespread bombardment.
Rafah residents said the tanks had pushed into Tel Al-Sultan in western Rafah and Yibna and near Shaboura in the centre before retreating towards a buffer zone on the border with Egypt, rather than staying put as elsewhere.
"We received distress calls from residents in Tel Al-Sultan where drones targeted displaced citizens as they moved from areas where they were staying toward the safe areas," the deputy director of ambulance and emergency services in Rafah, Haitham al Hams, said

[…]

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-sends-tanks-into-rafah-raids-amid-gaza-wide-offensive-2024-05-29/

[DaleCooper]

I really wish the entire civilized world would cut off Israel from all the free money. I think we'd be surprised at how immediately Netanyahu would be gone if that happened.

[Open Source Intelligence]

Israel says Gaza war likely to last another seven months as tanks probe Rafah

CAIRO, May 29 (Reuters) - Israel sent tanks on raids into Rafah on Wednesday and said its war on Hamas in Gaza would likely continue all year, after Washington said the Rafah assault did not amount to a major ground operation that would trigger a change in U.S. policy.
Israeli tanks moved into the heart of Rafah for the first time on Tuesday, despite an order from the International Court of Justice to end its attacks on the city, where many Palestinians had taken refuge from widespread bombardment.
Rafah residents said the tanks had pushed into Tel Al-Sultan in western Rafah and Yibna and near Shaboura in the centre before retreating towards a buffer zone on the border with Egypt, rather than staying put as elsewhere.
"We received distress calls from residents in Tel Al-Sultan where drones targeted displaced citizens as they moved from areas where they were staying toward the safe areas," the deputy director of ambulance and emergency services in Rafah, Haitham al Hams, said

[…]

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-sends-tanks-into-rafah-raids-amid-gaza-wide-offensive-2024-05-29/

In other words, post-American election.

[SnowLabrador]

All Netanyahu wants now is for Trump to win.

[Horus]

The second Trump wins the election (if he wins, which looks increasingly likely) Netanyahu will withdraw all troops from Gaza. Biden only gave him 99% of what he wanted, and that's not enough for the most pampered, entitled country on the planet.

The fact that supposed moderates like Gantz still haven't pulled their war cabinet support to stop this madness reflects awfully on their character too. This is a very sick society.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

The second Trump wins the election (if he wins, which looks increasingly likely) Netanyahu will withdraw all troops from Gaza. Biden only gave him 99% of what he wanted, and that's not enough for the most pampered, entitled country on the planet.

The fact that supposed moderates like Gantz still haven't pulled their war cabinet support to stop this madness reflects awfully on their character too. This is a very sick society.

Both Gantz and Galland gave a three week deadline that hasn’t passed yet

[Horus]

The second Trump wins the election (if he wins, which looks increasingly likely) Netanyahu will withdraw all troops from Gaza. Biden only gave him 99% of what he wanted, and that's not enough for the most pampered, entitled country on the planet.

The fact that supposed moderates like Gantz still haven't pulled their war cabinet support to stop this madness reflects awfully on their character too. This is a very sick society.

Leftists are completely delusional about what Palestinian culture is. They think this is some indigenous, peaceful tribe like Mayan civilization in 3000 BC (of course they are wrong about this too) when you listen to some of their language. Unfortunately, reality on the ground suggests if given the capacity they would kill every Jewish person they could.

I'm sure bombing refugee camps will totally change their culture.

Both Gantz and Galland gave a three week deadline that hasn’t passed yet

Not holding my breath.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

The second Trump wins the election (if he wins, which looks increasingly likely) Netanyahu will withdraw all troops from Gaza. Biden only gave him 99% of what he wanted, and that's not enough for the most pampered, entitled country on the planet.

The fact that supposed moderates like Gantz still haven't pulled their war cabinet support to stop this madness reflects awfully on their character too. This is a very sick society.

Netanyahu doesn’t care who wins in 2020 nor do I think he trusts Trump or Biden.  All Netanyahu cares about is remaining in power and avoiding prison.  Any other considerations are completely irrelevant to him.

[Open Source Intelligence]

The second Trump wins the election (if he wins, which looks increasingly likely) Netanyahu will withdraw all troops from Gaza. Biden only gave him 99% of what he wanted, and that's not enough for the most pampered, entitled country on the planet.

The fact that supposed moderates like Gantz still haven't pulled their war cabinet support to stop this madness reflects awfully on their character too. This is a very sick society.

Netanyahu doesn’t care who wins in 2020 nor do I think he trusts Trump or Biden.  All Netanyahu cares about is remaining in power and avoiding prison.  Any other considerations are completely irrelevant to him.

I think Netanyahu's end goal if one exists is creating a Golan Heights-like territory on Israel's border inside Gaza. It's the most common sensical thing on offer that can reduce future attacks on Israeli civilians. Trump is significantly more likely to approve of that than Biden.

[Devils30]

The second Trump wins the election (if he wins, which looks increasingly likely) Netanyahu will withdraw all troops from Gaza. Biden only gave him 99% of what he wanted, and that's not enough for the most pampered, entitled country on the planet.

The fact that supposed moderates like Gantz still haven't pulled their war cabinet support to stop this madness reflects awfully on their character too. This is a very sick society.

Leftists are completely delusional about what Palestinian culture is. They think this is some indigenous, peaceful tribe like Mayan civilization in 3000 BC (of course they are wrong about this too) when you listen to some of their language. Unfortunately, reality on the ground suggests if given the capacity they would kill every Jewish person they could.

I'm sure bombing refugee camps will totally change their culture.

Both Gantz and Galland gave a three week deadline that hasn’t passed yet

Not holding my breath.

What is your solution to the conflict then? Eliminate Israel's Jewish majority?

[Horus]

The second Trump wins the election (if he wins, which looks increasingly likely) Netanyahu will withdraw all troops from Gaza. Biden only gave him 99% of what he wanted, and that's not enough for the most pampered, entitled country on the planet.

The fact that supposed moderates like Gantz still haven't pulled their war cabinet support to stop this madness reflects awfully on their character too. This is a very sick society.

Leftists are completely delusional about what Palestinian culture is. They think this is some indigenous, peaceful tribe like Mayan civilization in 3000 BC (of course they are wrong about this too) when you listen to some of their language. Unfortunately, reality on the ground suggests if given the capacity they would kill every Jewish person they could.

I'm sure bombing refugee camps will totally change their culture.

Both Gantz and Galland gave a three week deadline that hasn’t passed yet

Not holding my breath.

What is your solution to the conflict then? Eliminate Israel's Jewish majority?

There was a poll a couple months back where MB proposed a quasi Bosnian solution. Something similar to that. I'll try to find it later. Or you can.

[pppolitics]

Israel says Gaza war likely to last another seven months as tanks probe Rafah

CAIRO, May 29 (Reuters) - Israel sent tanks on raids into Rafah on Wednesday and said its war on Hamas in Gaza would likely continue all year, after Washington said the Rafah assault did not amount to a major ground operation that would trigger a change in U.S. policy.
Israeli tanks moved into the heart of Rafah for the first time on Tuesday, despite an order from the International Court of Justice to end its attacks on the city, where many Palestinians had taken refuge from widespread bombardment.
Rafah residents said the tanks had pushed into Tel Al-Sultan in western Rafah and Yibna and near Shaboura in the centre before retreating towards a buffer zone on the border with Egypt, rather than staying put as elsewhere.
"We received distress calls from residents in Tel Al-Sultan where drones targeted displaced citizens as they moved from areas where they were staying toward the safe areas," the deputy director of ambulance and emergency services in Rafah, Haitham al Hams, said

[…]

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-sends-tanks-into-rafah-raids-amid-gaza-wide-offensive-2024-05-29/

In other words, post-American election.

If Biden was smart, he would have started withholding weapons in Jan/Fab when it was obvious that Israel wasn’t going to stop.

Sure, he would get some blowback from AIPAC-back politicians, but that would be largely dissipated by Election Day.

Now, he’s probably doom.

[Silent Hunter]

The second Trump wins the election (if he wins, which looks increasingly likely) Netanyahu will withdraw all troops from Gaza.

Or Hamas will release all the hostages, knowing Netanyahu will be truly unleashed once Trump takes office. That's basically what happened in 1980 with the hostages in Iran.

[pppolitics]

The second Trump wins the election (if he wins, which looks increasingly likely) Netanyahu will withdraw all troops from Gaza.

Or Hamas will release all the hostages, knowing Netanyahu will be truly unleashed once Trump takes office. That's basically what happened in 1980 with the hostages in Iran.

What hostages?

There will all be dead by then if they are not already.

[Stand With Israel. Crush Hamas]

The second Trump wins the election (if he wins, which looks increasingly likely) Netanyahu will withdraw all troops from Gaza.

Or Hamas will release all the hostages, knowing Netanyahu will be truly unleashed once Trump takes office. That's basically what happened in 1980 with the hostages in Iran.

The unfortunate difference here is that Hamas is actively trying to get Israel to hurt Gaza as much as possible to get international intervention, while Iran was not nearly as self-destructive.

[Stand With Israel. Crush Hamas]

The second Trump wins the election (if he wins, which looks increasingly likely) Netanyahu will withdraw all troops from Gaza.

Or Hamas will release all the hostages, knowing Netanyahu will be truly unleashed once Trump takes office. That's basically what happened in 1980 with the hostages in Iran.

What hostages?

There will all be dead by then if they are not already.

Then nothing will be able to save Hamas, as there is only one way to end this war and Hamas will have rendered themselves unable to comply.