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King of Kensington
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« Reply #75 on: June 18, 2024, 09:09:51 PM »


Manitoba with 2 seats.
Not much change. One Winnipeg seat, one non-Winnipeg seat.
Winnipeg seat voted Liberal in 2021, non-Winnipeg voted Conservative.

Nothing could better display "Winnipeg vs. the rest."
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« Reply #76 on: June 18, 2024, 09:13:08 PM »


Manitoba with 2 seats.
Not much change. One Winnipeg seat, one non-Winnipeg seat.
Winnipeg seat voted Liberal in 2021, non-Winnipeg voted Conservative.

Nothing could better display "Winnipeg vs. the rest."
Lol.
True.
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« Reply #77 on: June 18, 2024, 09:30:13 PM »

So I used this site to determine the seats (assuming it stays 435)

The results are... boring

Ontario 17   
Quebec 10   
British Columbia    6
Alberta 5   
Manitoba 2
Saskatchewan 1
Nova Scotia 1
New Brunswick 1
Newfoundland 1
Prince Edward Island 1
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King of Kensington
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« Reply #78 on: June 19, 2024, 11:57:01 AM »

Now does Manitoba follow Nebraska and Maine and split its electoral votes?
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« Reply #79 on: June 20, 2024, 05:29:52 PM »

Even if PEI was a separate state, it would be very hard to justify giving it one district. It is just ridiculously unpopulated. Giving it one district all to itself would be even more egregious than the fact that IRL it gets 4 seats in the Canadian HoC while only having the population of 1.5.

I think it would make sense if Canadian provinces were admitted as states to admit Prince Edward Island and New Brunswick as a single state.

The territories are weird too -- Canadian territories aren't like US territories. The Canadian territories are fully part of Canada, have all the same rights as provinces, and residents of the territories get full voting representation in Parliament. So it would be weird to then reduce them to non-voting delegates in the United States. Maybe combine the three and give them a voting member - yes, combined all three are still fewer people than PEI, but they have a much stronger argument for being so exceptionally different that population balancing rules can be bent a bit for them - after all, it's not just representing people, it's representing the district's economy, resources, etc. and the three territories combined are bigger than Argentina.
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« Reply #80 on: June 20, 2024, 05:52:43 PM »

When did this hypothetical merger of the two countries occur?
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« Reply #81 on: June 21, 2024, 08:45:38 AM »

If Canada was admitted to the US I'd think they'd finally expand the House. Otherwise you'd have 50 legislators losing their seats to Canadians.
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« Reply #82 on: June 21, 2024, 08:45:33 PM »

Have been playing with BC (or should I say AC) with 6 U.S.-style districts. A few notes:
  • Vancouver Island, plus a few stray islands, is a perfect size for a district.
  • Both Washington State and California have drawn somewhat awkward districts designed to maximize minority influence -- WA drew a minority-majority district (WA-09) and California drew Asian-majority CA-17. American Columbia is probably similar to both and tries to draw two Asian-influence districts, one anchored in Southern Vancouver and Richmond and one anchored in Surrey. This probably means a district that crosses the Burrard Inlet, as well as splits of Vancouver and Burnaby.
  • AC excluding Metro Vancouver and Vancouver Island is a little big for one district, which means that something has to go in a district with the exurban bits of Vancouver. What makes the most sense to put in there?
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« Reply #83 on: Today at 07:58:46 PM »

If Canada was admitted to the US I'd think they'd finally expand the House. Otherwise you'd have 50 legislators losing their seats to Canadians.
What does apportionment look like if no state loses seats?
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« Reply #84 on: Today at 08:29:24 PM »

If Canada was admitted to the US I'd think they'd finally expand the House. Otherwise you'd have 50 legislators losing their seats to Canadians.
What does apportionment look like if no state loses seats?

486 by my calculations.
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« Reply #85 on: Today at 08:31:24 PM »

If Canada was admitted to the US I'd think they'd finally expand the House. Otherwise you'd have 50 legislators losing their seats to Canadians.
What does apportionment look like if no state loses seats?

486 by my calculations.
Precisely what numbers does that yield for each of the Canadian provinces?
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« Reply #86 on: Today at 08:55:24 PM »

You have to expand the House a good bit to give more than one seat to the Atlantic provinces. I played with a bit a few days ago and don't remember the exact numbers, but it's over 600 seats. The Atlantic Provinces are really that small and remote.
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