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« Reply #75 on: October 20, 2023, 03:20:08 AM »
« edited: October 20, 2023, 10:36:20 AM by Meclazine for Israel »

Since the hospital incident where Islamic Jihad hit a Hospital car park, there are no more live streams from Gaza for some reason. Hamas may not have appreciated the evidence gathering nature of the footage.

YouTube has been flooded with false cams that are pre-recorded.

With Al-Jazeera flipping anti-Israeli, there is simply not that many independent news channels to find information from.

Al Jazeera English

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCNeDWCI0vo

I did find a live GIS system which updates action as it happens.

https://israelpalestine.liveuamap.com/en/2023/20-october-israeli-army-says-it-struck-more-than-100-targets

The Houthi’s are getting keen from Yemen which, from Israel, is about 2,200km South South-East as the crow flies.

Despite their cool name, the Houthi’s show lack of experience or sheer stupidity to fire a cruise missile this far. At US$6.5M each, they wasted $20M on yesterday’s attack.

USS Carney shot them down as they were travelling north on their way to Israel.

https://www.stripes.com/branches/navy/2023-10-19/navy-warship-red-sea-intercepts-missiles-11761848.html


The Arleigh Burke-class guided-missile destroyer USS Carney (DDG 64) transits through the Suez Canal, on Wednesday Oct. 18, 2023. The Carney on Thursday intercepted three missiles that had been fired from Yemen and were heading north. (Aaron Lau/U.S. Navy )

https://abcnews.go.com/International/security-incident-involving-us-navy-destroyer-red-sea/story?id=104147141

Israel's dreams have come true. The USA has entered the fight....

Top Gun (1987)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZfM2VMs_vI
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« Reply #76 on: October 20, 2023, 09:43:13 AM »
« Edited: October 21, 2023, 03:20:53 AM by Meclazine for Israel »

Israel are slowly leaking pieces of information about what Gaza will look like post-war.

1. No Hamas - totally removed and infrastructure destroyed - political, financial, military.
2. 300m loss of land inside the Gaza border for security wall barrier.
3. No responsibility for whatever occurs inside those walls.

Israel will provide no water, no electricity, no jobs or skills training, will ignore the citizens of Gaza after this ends.

Israel will not occupy Gaza.

The obvious question is what will Israel do to prevent Gaza from re-militarisation from Iran.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-10-20/israel-gaza-war-live-updates-latest-news/102999804#live-blog-post-55559

YouTube geopolitical expert, Peter Zeihan, discusses what he thinks of the current situation.

WW3 or Small Conflict

https://youtu.be/OagYlYna75Y?feature=shared
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« Reply #77 on: October 20, 2023, 11:35:14 AM »

NBC Report on Israel's famed defence technology.

The Iron Dome

https://youtu.be/nTitN4qLXSE

Each Israeli missile is $50,000 to build store and fire.

Hamas has fired over 6,500 rocket's, 90% of who have been intercepted.

So Israel have spent $300M on the Iron Dome so far in this conflict.
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« Reply #78 on: October 20, 2023, 09:04:06 PM »
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You do realise your signature occupies 610*838 px high every time you post?

It's literally the tallest signatures on the forum repeated 4,500 times.
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« Reply #79 on: October 20, 2023, 10:37:25 PM »

And despite their occasional lip services, they couldn't care less about the fate of the Palestinians.

Nailed it. This is exactly where Blinken needs to get out the cheque-book diplomacy and get Egypt and Jordan to re-assess their short term goals in life.
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« Reply #80 on: October 21, 2023, 01:43:01 AM »

Two American Hostages Released By Hamas

https://edition.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/israel-hamas-war-gaza-news-10-21-23/index.html


The two Americans, Judith Raanan and her 17-year-old daughter Natalie, were out of the Gaza Strip and in the hands of the Israeli military, an army spokesman said (Supplied: Raanan family)

197 to go.

Hamas are saying that they only know about 50 more hostages still alive and said that 20 additional hostages have died in the Israeli bombardment of the Gaza strip.

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« Reply #81 on: October 21, 2023, 10:52:08 PM »
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I find this hard to trust considering other polls show 19% of 18-29 year olds and 9% of Americans sympathizing more with Palestine (page 78). https://www.scribd.com/document/678478269/20231016-yahoo-tabs-1

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« Reply #82 on: October 22, 2023, 04:07:59 AM »
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US Secretary of Defence Lloyd Austin is calling up more navy and marines for the Middle East regional conflict.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/defense-secretary-issues-plan-bolster-regional-deterrence-efforts-move-warships-increase-forces

"The secretary said that USS Dwight D. Eisenhower Carrier Strike Group will join the USS Gerald R. Ford Carrier Strike Group, which was recently moved to the Eastern Mediterranean following the unprecedented assault on Israel from Hamas terrorists."


Aircraft carrier USS Dwight D. Eisenhower (CVN 69) transits the Strait of Gibraltar June 13, 2016, into the Mediterranean Sea.  (Michael R. Gendron/U.S. Navy via Getty Images)

The USA entering right into the danger zone.
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« Reply #83 on: October 22, 2023, 05:08:08 AM »
« Edited: October 22, 2023, 05:36:57 AM by Meclazine for Israel »

President Harry Truman

Israel Creation

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CyrEMlWOS2F/

Harry Truman talks about the decision to create a Jewish state following WW2. One of his bigger moments in the job.

And in other news, Palestinians are not in the mood to talk about Oct 7, 2023.

Palestinian Journalist Interview

https://fb.watch/nQJ7oT-KRm/


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« Reply #84 on: October 22, 2023, 09:55:57 AM »
« Edited: October 22, 2023, 10:37:51 AM by Meclazine for Israel »

News from CBS

Israel-Hamas War

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGYk4pSOCaQ

Gaza

Senior Hamas Commander, Mahmud Sabi,  is dead. The Israeli’s did a lot of shooting, and they did a lot of blasting.

He died like a dog.

Israel have said that 212 people are remaining as hostages in Gaza.

The IDF have advised Gazans to move south.

"Urgent warning, to residents of Gaza. Your presence north of Wadi Gaza [a stream running through the Gaza Valley] puts your life in danger. Whoever chooses not to leave north Gaza to the south of Wadi Gaza might be identified as an accomplice in a terrorist organisation."


A Mervava tank gets in position near the border with Gaza on Sunday 22 October, 2023 (Reuters: Violeta Santos Moura)

Lebanon

Hezbollah have increased their attacks at the northern border during the last week.

In August 2023, Netanyahu warned Hezbollah if they attack Israel, then they will be bombed back into the Stone Age.

In October 2023, both Biden and Netanyahu warned Hezbollah not to get involved. Netanyahu added that:

“2014 will look like a picnic compared to what we will do.”
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« Reply #85 on: October 24, 2023, 02:20:00 AM »

Alright tax dodgers, back to the 2023 Holy War.

Looks like the USA is gearing up for an escalation in the region, particularly against US military bases.

PBS Hews Hour

https://youtu.be/nZ1VqYHeplo?t=718

8 attacks against US troops in the region. Syria, Iraq bases etc. The US are not just being drawn into the battle to defend against Iran, but in fact, simply to defend their existing interests from all manner of evil-doers.

Hezbollah getting itchy in the north.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-10-24/israels-northern-town-elders-are-preparing-for-an-escalation/103008576


An Israeli soldier instructs an ABC team to take cover and stay put during the heaviest rocket barrage from Lebanon since the war's start.(ABC News: Tom Joyner)
 
Since the October 7 attacks, this region has seen the deadliest outbreak of violence since Israel's all-out war with Lebanon in 2006.

There have been relentless rocket bombardments, exchanges of gunfire and even several infiltration attempts by Hezbollah militants.


Interesting interview with Joni Erst, R-Iowa, who visited Israel last week. She looked shocked.

Joni Ernst, R-Iowa

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsVMmFVzCUc

Trey looks like Max Headroom. She revealed a lot of information quickly without complication. She has a remarkably effective method of communication and speaks so clearly.

The question that they are raising is all about Iran.

And finally, Barack Obama released a five page Instagram Post about the conflict:

Thoughts From Barack Obama

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cywh4YzvftG/
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« Reply #86 on: October 24, 2023, 07:54:33 AM »
« Edited: October 24, 2023, 09:06:12 AM by Meclazine for Israel »

Here is an interesting documentary on Benjamin Netanyahu.

The Rise of Netanyahu

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7W-xxpXzAC0

As a soldier from the 1967 war, his career really took off when he was an SAS soldier. Netanyahu, dressed as an aircraft mechanic stormed a hijacked plane and killed the Islamic terrorists on board. He was literally a hero after he put himself in harms was for a plane load of people. It has been noted as one of the most successful attacks on Islamic hijackers.

Starting in the USA, Netanyahu rose to prominence only because of the timing of Hamas terrorist attacks during his political career.

For 2023, it would appear Israel have the right person for the job making it surprising his southern border was so ill prepared for the terrorist attacks of Oct 7.

I guess with Islamic terrorist attacks, everything looks easy in hindsight. Similar to September 11, 2001.
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« Reply #87 on: October 24, 2023, 10:07:51 AM »

If we back down, we continue to look weak, and isolate an Israel that could legitimately be overwhelmed through the sheer number of warm bodies that Iran is willing to throw at them.

As each new video comes out from Oct 7 showing the activities of our Islamic terrorist friends, it would appear that the Israeli's are becoming more incensed.
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« Reply #88 on: October 24, 2023, 08:06:12 PM »
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Gaza and West Bank on fire with 400 Israeli airstrikes launched on 24 Oct killing, according to the Palestinians, over 700 people within their borders.

PBS News Hour investigates the effect of airstrikes on Gaza. Will the Gazan's blame Hamas?

The question is:

"The longer this siege goes on, will the average person in Gaza look carefully at what brought this to their land?"

Doesn't look like it.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/a-look-at-life-inside-gaza-amid-airstrikes-and-worsening-humanitarian-crisis


The rubble of buildings hit in Israeli air strikes on Khan Younis in the southern Gaza Strip © Mahmud Hams/AFP/Getty Images

First public account of an Israeli hostage in Gaza.

Yocheved Lifsh**tz, 85

https://youtu.be/FZwmzHSIbwo?t=779


Hamas Militants in balaclava's illustrating how much they care for little old ladies (Hamas Video)

Hamas made a video of their soldiers serving tea to the two 80 y.o. hostages and being kind to them upon their release. Meanwhile, Yocheved has said she was thrown across a motorbike and beaten with sticks so hard, she could not breathe. She thought they had broken her ribs.

Her intelligence may be false for finding hostages. The tunnels will be a ordinance-ridden trap. She did say something interesting about the Israeli Government not taking the previous threats from Hamas to southern Israel seriously.

Senior Advisor to the Israeli Prime Minister, Mark Regev, also talked to PBS News Hour about the Israeli assault. He sounds like an Australian, honest and direct.

Mark revealed:

(a) Israel does not want to stay in Gaza;
(b) There will be no cease fire;
(c) Israel will win. No more Hamas.
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« Reply #89 on: October 25, 2023, 11:02:18 AM »

Hamas, Islamic Jihad and Hezbollah look to join forces.

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/nation-world/story/2023-10-25/leader-of-lebanons-hezbollah-holds-talks-with-senior-hamas-and-palestinian-islamic-jihad-figures


In this photo released on Wednesday, Oct. 25, 2023, by the Hezbollah Media Relations Office, Hezbollah leader Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah, right, meets with Ziad al-Nakhleh, the head of Palestinian Islamic Jihad, center, and Hamas deputy chief, Saleh al-Arouri, in Beirut, Lebanon. Nasrallah met with top Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad officials, their first reported meeting since the Hamas-Israel war erupted earlier this month and clashes began along the Lebanon-Israel border. (Hezbollah Media Relations Office, via AP ) (Uncredited / Associated Press)

Following the meeting in Lebanon, a brief statement said Hezbollah’s leader Hassan Nasrallah agreed with Hamas’ Saleh al-Arouri and Islamic Jihad’s leader Ziad al-Nakhleh on the next steps that the three — along with other Iran-backed militants — should take at this “sensitive stage” in the Middle East.

Their goal, according to the statement carried on Hezbollah-run and Lebanese state media, was to achieve “a real victory for the resistance in Gaza and Palestine” and halt Israel’s “treacherous and brutal aggression against our oppressed and steadfast people in Gaza and the West Bank”.

No other details were provided.
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« Reply #90 on: October 25, 2023, 12:07:28 PM »

When young, yes. Which makes this all the more damning for him.

Netanyahu is one of the few Israeli special forces ever to storm a plane full of fervent Islamic terrorists and shoot them all dead.

During the attack, he got shot in the hand by one of his Israeli colleagues.

He also served in both Israeli wars.

His son is most likely chasing Cuban models in Miami and posting about his McLaren sports car on Instagram.

There is no way possible he will be made of the same stuff as his Dad.
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« Reply #91 on: October 26, 2023, 01:32:07 AM »
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Israeli's have entered Gaza overnight in a temporary incursion to attack Hamas sites.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-10-26/israel-gaza-updates-idf-reports-overnight-incursion-into-gaza/103022072


Video released by the IDF appeared to show armoured vehicles proceeding through a sandy border zone. (Reuters: IDF)

"Israeli ground forces operated within the northern Gaza Strip on Thursday, attacking multiple Hamas targets before withdrawing, the IDF said in a statement on what Israel's Army Radio described as the biggest incursion of the current war.

Video posted to X from the IDF appeared to show armoured vehicles proceeding through a sandy border zone. A bulldozer is seen levelling part of a raised bank, tanks fire shells, and explosions are seen near or amid a row of damaged buildings."
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« Reply #92 on: October 26, 2023, 10:39:38 AM »

The War On Bad Journalism

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« Reply #93 on: October 27, 2023, 01:41:48 AM »
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Update from the Holy Lands.

PBS News Hour

https://youtu.be/CTx8wEmzHgg?t=874

Foreign Minister of Iran, Hossein Amir-Abdollahian, in a speech to the UN in New York City said “Hamas is ready to release the civilian hostages”.

Hossein also showed a level of annoyance with the US as President Biden continues to support Israel.

“US will not be 'spared the fire’“ Hossein was quoted as saying.



In the report on the ground from PBS, Thomas White, an Australian in Gaza working as Director of UNRWA, said that fuel is next to running out for his aid operations in Gaza.

ABC.net.au

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-10-27/israel-gaza-updates-gaza-health-reports-7000-deaths-in-document/103029230

The Gaza media are now under a ‘credibility-threat’ following the US President, Joe Biden, casting doubt on death toll numbers in Gaza.

In Australia, the Jewish population has staged an interesting protest in Melbourne highlighting kidnapped babies and children by Hamas.


The strollers each represented a child who had been taken hostage by Hamas.(ABC News: Rudy De Santis)

Al Jazeera

Al Jazeera, which is now essentially a ‘Hamas mouthpiece’ has taken a very dim view of Biden’s comments running it as their top story.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/10/26/appalling-why-has-biden-cast-doubt-on-the-palestinian-death-count

‘United States President Joe Biden cast doubt over the figures, saying that he has “no confidence in the number that the Palestinians are using”.

“I have no notion that the Palestinians are telling the truth about how many people are killed,” Biden said on Wednesday.’


The mood amongst Gazan analysts on Al Jazeera has turned very pessimistic.

Tamer Qarmout, Assistant Professor at Doha Institute for Graduate Studies told Al Jazeera yesterday he predicts a total explosion of refugees emanating from the southern Gaza border at Rafah.

“I expect the worst” he said. He followed up with saying the Israeli’s are gearing up for a systematic movement south of all Gazan’s displaced from their homeland.

Tamer put this down to the severe lack of aid coming through the border and the continued aerial bombing from Israel.

Right on cue, Israel continued with their intense bombing on Gaza in the last 24 hours.


Gaza – 26 October 2023 (Getty Images)
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« Reply #94 on: October 27, 2023, 07:50:34 PM »
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846 years ago to the day (OK, week), a fight for Gaza was brewing.

King Baldwin IV of Jerusalem vs Saladin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxOohaleI4M

Without CNN and Al Jazeera, things were much simpler back in the day.

Pope Francis has asked the Italian Air Force to fire up the Eurofighter Typhoons.
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« Reply #95 on: October 27, 2023, 08:32:13 PM »
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Is this what you call a snowfight?
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« Reply #96 on: October 27, 2023, 11:56:39 PM »
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A Pope's speech that inspired a war against the "Moslems" of Palestine and Syria which was written 928 years ago.

"They have occupied more and more of the lands of those Christians, and have overcome them in seven battles. They have killed and captured many, and have destroyed the churches and devastated the empire. If you permit them to continue thus for awhile with impurity, the faithful of God will be much more widely attacked by them. On this account I, or rather the Lord, beseech you as Christ's heralds to publish this everywhere and to persuade all people of whatever rank, foot-soldiers and knights, poor and rich, to carry aid promptly to those Christians and to destroy that vile race from the lands of our friends. I say this to those who are present, it meant also for those who are absent. Moreover, Christ commands it.

"All who die by the way, whether by land or by sea, or in battle against the pagans, shall have immediate remission of sins. This I grant them through the power of God with which I am invested. O what a disgrace if such a despised and base race, which worships demons, should conquer a people which has the faith of omnipotent God and is made glorious with the name of Christ! With what reproaches will the Lord overwhelm us if you do not aid those who, with us, profess the Christian religion! Let those who have been accustomed unjustly to wage private warfare against the faithful now go against the infidels and end with victory this war which should have been begun long ago. Let those who for a long time, have been robbers, now become knights. Let those who have been fighting against their brothers and relatives now fight in a proper way against the barbarians. Let those who have been serving as mercenaries for small pay now obtain the eternal reward. Let those who have been wearing themselves out in both body and soul now work for a double honor. Behold! on this side will be the sorrowful and poor, on that, the rich; on this side, the enemies of the Lord, on that, his friends. Let those who go not put off the journey, but rent their lands and collect money for their expenses; and as soon as winter is over and spring comes, let hem eagerly set out on the way with God as their guide."


November 27th 1095 CE,
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Taking of Jerusalem by the Crusaders, 15th July 1099, Émile Signol, oil on canvas (1847)


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« Reply #97 on: October 28, 2023, 06:14:17 AM »
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Protestor wearing Nike shoes calls for a ban on the top shoe brand because Nike are sold in Israel.

Ban Nike

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cy4JoHjLim8/

Hamas Spokesman, Ghazi Ahmed, says that the Oct 7 had no intention to kill civilians. Then kills 1,400 civilians. Ghazi was not very keen to discuss the kidnapping and murder of innocent Israeli people.

Ghazi Hamad

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cy6uOnPNbo9/



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« Reply #98 on: October 28, 2023, 09:38:01 PM »
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There are, in fact, several things Biden could do:

* He could impose a no-fly zone and obliterate the Israeli Airforce

Huh?

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CybLhohSTqf/

That is like a Nazi sympathiser asking the USA and Great Britain to start fighting each other on the day of the Normandy invasion in WW2.

At this stage, a more viable option is for President Biden to withdraw funding of $1 Billion annually to Egypt until they open the Rafah border and start taking Gazan refugees.

Rinse and repeat with Jordan.

At that stage, would you be surprised to learn of any potential links between Egypt and Hamas?

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« Reply #99 on: October 29, 2023, 06:11:21 AM »
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Hamas are desperate for civilians to stay in the war zone in the North.

Mosab Hassan Yousef (Son of co-founder of Hamas Founder) speaks about the civilian causalities in this war. His father founded Hamas.

Hamas Have Opened Up The Gates Of Hell.

https://youtu.be/B8YYmrgAeqw?t=423

"It's a fact that Hamas used civilians as human shields. It's a fact."

"Israel gives warnings to Gaza about which buildings will be destroyed. Hamas put's up road-blocks preventing civilians from evacuating."

Australian coverage of the latest situation was a little more subdued.

Australian Morning News

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFy24i2E2cc

Australia is predominantly pro-Israel in this conflict.

Seven former Prime Ministers before Albanese are going to write a letter to Israel supporting their right to defend themself against Islamic terrorism and condemning Hamas for the attacks on 7 October 2023.

Channel 4 News

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGzChSnlEkM

Hamas are still very much alive and firing rockets back at Israel.

Mark Regev, former Israeli Ambassador to the UK and advisor to Netanyahu, also spoke at length about what Israel are doing.


IDF tanks roll into the coast of the northern Gaza Strip, October 29, 2023. (Israel Defense Forces)
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