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« Reply #325 on: April 26, 2024, 07:57:35 PM »

UNRWA isn’t a credible source for anything

UN organisation with links to staff who raped, tortured, murdered, kidnapped and harboured Israeli's on Oct 7.

One of the real problems with modern war is the UN. It's borderline useless and is often hijacked by the aggressor, example Serb Chetniks in the Srebrenica massacre.
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« Reply #326 on: April 28, 2024, 05:11:28 AM »

The Cleanup Bill at Gaza just to clear away the rubble.

750,000 work days.

So with 10 trucks, that is 140 years of full time work.

(Pehr Lodhammar - United Nations Mine Action Service)
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« Reply #327 on: May 07, 2024, 03:28:35 AM »

"Hamas says it accepts Gaza truce deal, as Israel readies Rafah operation"

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-middle-east-68963839?src_origin=BBCS_BBC

"The Hamas leadership says it has accepted the terms of a ceasefire deal in Gaza.

In a statement, the group says it has informed Qatari and Egyptian mediators of its decision.

The finer details are yet to be announced, including how long it will last and what this means for hostages being held in Gaza.

Stay tuned for live updates from us here in London, and analysis from our colleagues in Jerusalem."

How do you accept the terms of a ceasefire proposal when the enemy does not have any idea what you are talking about?

One of the terms is that the USA closes down the war altogether.

Israel are never going to agree to leaving Hamas on their border.
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« Reply #328 on: May 08, 2024, 03:20:24 AM »

Trump just won the election today.

I am growing tired of all this winning.
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« Reply #329 on: May 09, 2024, 06:28:12 AM »


The only issue that the USA should really take care about on the war are american hostages. If Israel had only preassured on that innitialy...

I don't think there would be many hostages left. The Palestinians would have carved them up long ago.

The legacy of kidnapping women and children and raping and murdering their immediate relatives will not fade in the memory of Israel any time soon.

The blood lust of war fades slowly.
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« Reply #330 on: May 10, 2024, 06:18:26 PM »
« Edited: May 10, 2024, 06:32:51 PM by Meclazine for Israel »

Here is the thing: If Netanyahu doesn't finish the job and completely obliterates Hamas Israel will have the same problem again 5, 10 years from now if not earlier.

Israel must finish the Job!

Not even that.

The Palestinian's simply don't understand the basics.

If you kidnap their women and keep them in rape dungeons underground, when do you realistically expect Israel to stop bombing Gaza? The kidnappees' are reported to have been raped and tortured, if there are any left alive.

Why would you rape, murder and kidnap women and children? And then afterwards, say you are really happy, and will do it again?

The Israeli's are not going to stop hunting these militants for the next five years, even if it fades from the news.

Exactly the same thing happened with Japan. 2,400 US naval servicemen killed at Pearl Harbour.

The US subsequently killed 2 million Japanese people including a large swathe of civilians.

The 5-6 year blood lust timeline seems to be a human civilisation thing.
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« Reply #331 on: May 10, 2024, 08:05:35 PM »
« Edited: May 10, 2024, 08:12:54 PM by Meclazine for Israel »

Here is the thing: If Netanyahu doesn't finish the job and completely obliterates Hamas Israel will have the same problem again 5, 10 years from now if not earlier.

Israel must finish the Job!

Hamas simply don't understand the basics.


Fix that for you. I am a Palestinian and offended by this post

Referencing the Palestinian's in Gaza who thought it was a good idea to invade Israel.

No offence intended. But facts are facts. If Gazan's want Hamas embedded in plain clothes, you have to accept the consequences. If Palestinian's in Gaza don't want this assertion, time for them to stand up and say no more to Hamas.

Most returned Israeli kidnappee's said the entire Palestinian population were complicit with their kidnapping. They were spat on, abused and offered no sympathy by the general population.

One girl said 100% of the Palestinians offered no help, sympathy, assistance to her the entire time she was held in captivity.

Isolating Hamas as this tiny subset of a larger group of non-offensive Palestinians is a debate for another time.

As a logical example, how many good Samaritan Palestinian's have returned a single Israeli from their kidnap hell? Given the Israeli occupation of Gaza, it is very simple to do.

The answer, my friend, is zero. Facts are facts.
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« Reply #332 on: May 10, 2024, 08:13:59 PM »

Here is the thing: If Netanyahu doesn't finish the job and completely obliterates Hamas Israel will have the same problem again 5, 10 years from now if not earlier.

Israel must finish the Job!

Hamas simply don't understand the basics.


Fix that for you. I am a Palestinian and offended by this post

Referencing the Palestinian's in Gaza who thought it was a good idea to invade Israel.

No offence intended. But facts are facts. If Gazan's want Hamas embedded in plain clothes, you have to accept the consequences. If Palestinian's in Gaza don't want this assertion, time for them to stand up and say no more to Hamas.

Most returned Israeli kidnappee's said the entire Palestinian population were complicit with their kidnapping. They were spat on, abused and offered no sympathy by the general population.

As a logical example, how many good Samaritan Palestinian's have returned a single Israeli from their kidnap hell? Given the Israeli occupation of Gaza, it is very simple to do.

The answer, my friend, is zero. Facts are facts.
I agree that the Palestinians should do more to oppose Hamas. But  there wasn't a vote on rather Hamas could wear plain clothes or not.

Obviously 99% of Gaza residents had nothing to do with the kidnapping. 99% had no idea where the hostages are, so how could they be spat on? If it was common knowledge, than the IDF could just get any random Palestinian to talk.

I agree the hostages have been treated horribly. But Hamas is a terrorist organization. We can't say Hamas=Palestine no more than we can say Taliban=Afghsnistan

Out of respect to you, I will retire my rhetoric for now.

And given your knowledge on the ground, there is a larger story here.
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« Reply #333 on: May 12, 2024, 03:20:13 PM »

The first international declaration that a Holocaust was occurring was made by the United Nations on December 17 1942. What the Allies could 'do' was very much tied in with the overall military response to the conflict.

They could’ve bombed the railways.  They didn’t because, to put it bluntly, they couldn’t care less about dead Jews.

The Allies had other issues on their mind. They probably thought they were labour camps. Even with reports of mass killings, I doubt whether the Allies believed Auschwitz was killing ~1,500 Jews per day, mostly Hungarian and Polish.

A facility near Auschwitz was bombed, but only because the Allies thought it was making military equipment, which suggests their priority was to decrease Germany's weapons making capability.

Another example, the Russians who liberated Auschwitz knew nothing:

https://www.history.com/news/auschwitz-liberation-soviets-holocaust
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« Reply #334 on: May 13, 2024, 05:58:19 AM »

The first international declaration that a Holocaust was occurring was made by the United Nations on December 17 1942. What the Allies could 'do' was very much tied in with the overall military response to the conflict.

They could’ve bombed the railways.  They didn’t because, to put it bluntly, they couldn’t care less about dead Jews.

The Allies had other issues on their mind. They probably thought they were labour camps. Even with reports of mass killings, I doubt whether the Allies believed Auschwitz was killing ~1,500 Jews per day, mostly Hungarian and Polish.

A facility near Auschwitz was bombed, but only because the Allies thought it was making military equipment, which suggests their priority was to decrease Germany's weapons making capability.

Another example, the Russians who liberated Auschwitz knew nothing:

https://www.history.com/news/auschwitz-liberation-soviets-holocaust
I prefer not to backseat drive the decisions that led to the defeat of the Axis.
The idea there was this set of obvious fix we could have done here or there and if our ancestors had done this allegedly obviously available course of action, then it would have been better, is very silly.

It's a perplexity.

On one hand, from abroad, the scale seems unlikely. The methods up until 1941 were simple execution killings..

On the other hand, how do you not notice the disappearance and murder of 6 million Jewish people?



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« Reply #335 on: May 15, 2024, 05:49:23 AM »

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« Reply #336 on: May 15, 2024, 08:00:56 PM »
« Edited: May 16, 2024, 04:19:36 AM by Meclazine for Israel »

Egypt, UAE and Morocco weigh up proposal to form a post-Gaza war peacekeeping force.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/egypt-uae-morocco-said-weighing-us-plan-to-create-post-war-gaza-peacekeeping-force/

If only General MacArthur was here to give us his opinion.
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« Reply #337 on: May 18, 2024, 08:06:38 AM »
« Edited: May 18, 2024, 08:15:41 AM by Meclazine for Israel »

Also, Israel says those three people were murdered on October 7 and Hamas took the bodies with them. Remember they have swapped human remains for live prisoners before.

I think Shani was alive in some of the videos on Oct 7.

There are heaps of photos going around of Palestinian militants standing proud on murdered and raped Israeli's on Oct 7.

The Palestinian militants were sharing their murder-rape-athon on social media with each other. One of the things Muslims do to Jewish women in these raids is they cut their breasts off. I don't understand it, but it happened in the 1930's when Muslim radicals were driving Jews out of northern Africa.

Even though they are outrageous, they appear to have committed historically repeated acts of violence.

It's gruesome and depraved. I can see why the rest of the planet has rocked up to protect Israel.

The whole history of the Jews retreating to Israel is a nasty episode.
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« Reply #338 on: May 18, 2024, 06:14:14 PM »
« Edited: May 18, 2024, 06:57:40 PM by Meclazine for Israel »

Josh Breslow from FOX sounds exactly like Mikey Day from SNL.

Fox News

70 Strikes on Gaza Yesterday

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJqir-Kdm28

Discussion of the 130 hostages. American and Israeli families must have given up hope now that their loved ones are still alive.

Israeli's are not dealing with a normal situation. The reminder of the massacre of 1,200 people on October 7 through the discussion of hostages keeps this war in the "white hot" stage. Thinking 3-6 months ahead when they realise nearly all 130 are dead, I cannot see the temperature or hatred decreasing in intensity.

Are there really only 4,000 remaining Hamas militants left in Rafah? Only one way to find out according to John Bolton.

Times Radio

Interview with John Bolton

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABrghpOUBac

John has a more simple solution to the invasion of Rafah to weed out the terrorists.

Israel are still hell bent on making sure the Palestinian militants don't resurface as a free-moving organisation within Gaza.

Interview with Benjamin Netanyahu

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-sICNOmqvo

He is not changing course on Gaza one centimetre.
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« Reply #339 on: May 20, 2024, 06:37:16 AM »

The ICC arresting Benjamin Netanyahu?

https://youtu.be/ccenFp_3kq8
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« Reply #340 on: May 21, 2024, 06:25:18 AM »

One of the most popular politicians on the Atlas forum speaks about these unprecedented ICC charges.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C7NsXoct7Y6/
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« Reply #341 on: May 22, 2024, 05:18:16 AM »

Only 4,000 Hamas fighters left and counting.


Smoke billows after an Israeli bombardment in Rafah, Gaza, on 6 May 2024 (AFP)

I would never have expected Hamas to be stupid enough to put them all in Rafah.
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« Reply #342 on: May 22, 2024, 05:13:51 PM »

Would Ireland/Norway/Spain have recognized Palestine in 2024 if 10/7 didn't happen?
No they likely wouldn't have.
Therefore logic follows that if Hamas's goal was to further the Palestinian cause they were 100% successful in their aims and the world is rewarding them for 10/7/.
Explain why someone whose number one goal is to support the Palestinian cause shouldn't support more 10/7s?

Good point.

However, I wouldn't say 100% successful.

Look carefully at the history of Palestinian migration to Lebanon, Jordan and Kuwait and I am not sure you could qualify success in terms of a very high percentage.

Then add to that the killing, raping and kidnapping, including dead bodies (Huh) Of Israeli's on Oct 7.

Not exactly a resume of success.
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« Reply #343 on: May 23, 2024, 04:13:36 AM »
« Edited: May 23, 2024, 04:41:23 AM by Meclazine for Israel »

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Families of five Israeli women kidnapped on October 7 have released a video showing their Palestinian captors interviewing them.

October 7 Army Base

22 Unarmed Women Beaten, Killed or Kidnapped

https://youtu.be/xjXNPlBZ3sM

15 women in the bunker were shot dead and are lying on the ground.

One woman was later rescued. One was found dead.

Five of the women, all 19 years of age, are still held captive in Gaza, 229 days later.

Even though the video was edited, they are saying the women are beautiful, of breeding age, and can fall pregnant.

A couple of the woman have clearly copped a hiding.
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« Reply #344 on: May 23, 2024, 04:57:16 AM »
« Edited: May 23, 2024, 06:30:51 AM by Meclazine for Israel »


Are you still as keen on Hamas' murderous rape-athon as you were on October 7 brah?

......fight and resist apartheid state Israël, in fact they should, and everyone who does is a freedom fighter. They have my support......

Or did you delete that post 4 months later when you realised what they had actually done to the Israeli's?
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« Reply #345 on: May 23, 2024, 04:17:31 PM »
« Edited: May 23, 2024, 04:20:43 PM by Meclazine for Israel »

True the global south was always a lost cause......


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« Reply #346 on: May 23, 2024, 11:08:47 PM »
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October 7 Palestinian Father-Son Rape Teams.

https://www.skynews.com.au/world-news/fatherson-hamas-terrorists-casually-describe-taking-turns-raping-israeli-woman-then-executing-her-in-bonechilling-video/news-story/54ad07d1f1f78eba02903e59a6ee45f3

"Jamal Hussein Ahmad Radi, 47, and his 18-year-old son, Abdallah, were seized by the Israel Defense Forces in the Gaza Strip this spring and subsequently questioned about the terror attack, the Daily Mail revealed."



https://www.instagram.com/p/C7UfZ98RGu2/?igsh=b2s1ZHNveDNiZWdy

"Your father was the first to rape her?"

"Yes. Then I, and Ahmed, we raped her too, and then we left."

"After he finished raping her, my father killed her."
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« Reply #347 on: May 24, 2024, 08:46:48 PM »

Israeli military recovers the bodies of 3 more hotages killed on Oct. 7 from Gaza

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/israeli-military-recovers-bodies-3-hostages-killed-oct-7-gaza-hamas-rcna153869

"Hanan Yablonka, Michel Nisenbaum, and Orion Hernandez were killed on Oct. 7 at the Mefalsim Intersection and their bodies were taken into Gaza, the Israel Defense Forces said in a statement Friday morning, citing intelligence."

R.I.P. Brothers.

The Palestinians are storing dead bodies now?

Keeping them in a fridge. Storage locker? How do you keep 3 dead bodies for 229 days? There is something fundamentally corrupt in stealing dead bodies and storing them.
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« Reply #348 on: May 25, 2024, 12:43:58 AM »

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« Reply #349 on: May 25, 2024, 04:22:47 AM »

Israeli military recovers the bodies of 3 more hotages killed on Oct. 7 from Gaza

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/israeli-military-recovers-bodies-3-hostages-killed-oct-7-gaza-hamas-rcna153869

"Hanan Yablonka, Michel Nisenbaum, and Orion Hernandez were killed on Oct. 7 at the Mefalsim Intersection and their bodies were taken into Gaza, the Israel Defense Forces said in a statement Friday morning, citing intelligence."

R.I.P. Brothers.

The Palestinians are storing dead bodies now?

Keeping them in a fridge. Storage locker? How do you keep 3 dead bodies for 229 days? There is something fundamentally corrupt in stealing dead bodies and storing them.
It should be noted that both the Israeli government and various Palestinian groups do this and have been doing it for a while.

Brah, the Palestinians are keeping the decapitated heads of victims in their fridge/freezer.

In their homes.

Equivalency?
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