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« Reply #575 on: December 11, 2009, 12:41:55 PM »
Pleven.

Sorry Hash. He could have been a Saint, but he has nothing to do here anymore.
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« Reply #576 on: December 11, 2009, 01:46:11 PM »
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« Reply #577 on: December 11, 2009, 03:13:22 PM »
Pleven

Then De Gaulle
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« Reply #578 on: December 12, 2009, 01:58:05 PM »


Pleven is out.

Remaining leaders are:

28.   Léon Blum (1936-1937, 1938, 1946-1947)
32.   Charles de Gaulle (1944-1946, 1958, President 1958-1969)
44.   Pierre Mendès France (1954-1955)

Italicized leaders have received votes.


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« Reply #579 on: December 12, 2009, 02:06:32 PM »
Well, De Gaulle.

Sorry, fab. I have much respect for this outstanding statesman, his integrity and his devotion for his country. But the way he went to the power in 1958 is shameful. The principle of democracy shall not be infringed, whatever the circumstances are, and De Gaulle benefitted to the events to impose a political system which revealed to be dangerous when less devoted persons went to the power. Désolé, Général. It's fair you stayed until now, but now your turn has come.
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« Reply #580 on: December 12, 2009, 04:46:23 PM »
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« Reply #581 on: December 12, 2009, 06:07:53 PM »
Mendès France. Let's not be ridiculous here.

FWIW, I had and have no intentions of voting for the General, unless it is solely him and Blum. I will have to consider my vote carefully then.
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« Reply #582 on: December 12, 2009, 07:34:49 PM »
     Pierre Mendès France
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« Reply #583 on: December 12, 2009, 11:02:29 PM »
Sorry guys, but with Mendes and Blum left, I can't vote against any of them

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« Reply #584 on: December 12, 2009, 11:09:39 PM »
The general was more important than both of them combined, Kalwejt.
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« Reply #585 on: December 13, 2009, 04:40:36 AM »
2-2-2 tie... Shocked
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« Reply #586 on: December 13, 2009, 05:32:05 PM »
Antonio, change your vote.
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« Reply #587 on: December 13, 2009, 05:36:56 PM »
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Xahar and fab probably won't like this Tongue
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« Reply #588 on: December 13, 2009, 05:48:56 PM »
Boo!
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« Reply #589 on: December 13, 2009, 06:02:18 PM »
Hans didn't vote, maybe he'll save the general Tongue
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« Reply #590 on: December 14, 2009, 01:50:41 PM »
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« Reply #591 on: December 15, 2009, 03:04:07 AM »
It's a pity, because, without Blum, all the social achievements would have been done anyway in 1945.

PMF and de Gaulle, on the other hand, were REALLY 2 absolutely different views of France, of politics, of institutions, and both of them very interesting.

PMF and de Gaulle, this is the great opposition of the 2nd half of the 20th century.

Blum is a myth, also, but not a big one in French history: he isn't even representative of the French left's history...

You should stop to see life in left/right, black/white....

I'm tempted to boycott the final but will never let Blum win over Mendès.
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« Reply #592 on: December 15, 2009, 06:59:37 AM »
Quote from: big bad fab on December 15, 2009, 03:04:07 AM
You should stop to see life in left/right, black/white....

Did you even read my comment ?
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« Reply #593 on: December 21, 2009, 04:04:18 PM »
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« Reply #594 on: December 21, 2009, 04:39:06 PM »
Quote from: big bad fab on December 15, 2009, 03:04:07 AM
It's a pity, because, without Blum, all the social achievements would have been done anyway in 1945.

PMF and de Gaulle, on the other hand, were REALLY 2 absolutely different views of France, of politics, of institutions, and both of them very interesting.

PMF and de Gaulle, this is the great opposition of the 2nd half of the 20th century.

Blum is a myth, also, but not a big one in French history: he isn't even representative of the French left's history...

You should stop to see life in left/right, black/white....

I'm tempted to boycott the final but will never let Blum win over Mendès.
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« Reply #595 on: December 23, 2009, 05:34:09 AM »
Quote from: Хahar on December 21, 2009, 04:39:06 PM
Quote from: big bad fab on December 15, 2009, 03:04:07 AM
It's a pity, because, without Blum, all the social achievements would have been done anyway in 1945.

PMF and de Gaulle, on the other hand, were REALLY 2 absolutely different views of France, of politics, of institutions, and both of them very interesting.

PMF and de Gaulle, this is the great opposition of the 2nd half of the 20th century.

Blum is a myth, also, but not a big one in French history: he isn't even representative of the French left's history...

You should stop to see life in left/right, black/white....

I'm tempted to boycott the final but will never let Blum win over Mendès.



Sure, Xahar...

I'm just talking about relative historical importance.
Blum - de Gaulle.
Blum - PMF.
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« Reply #596 on: December 24, 2009, 04:56:13 PM »


de Gaulle is out.

Remaining leaders are:

28.   Léon Blum (1936-1937, 1938, 1946-1947)
44.   Pierre Mendès France (1954-1955)

Italicized leaders have received votes.

VOTE FOR THE LEADER YOU WANT TO KEEP


Ugh. What an awful, ridiculous partisan runoff. Fuck it, man.

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« Reply #597 on: December 24, 2009, 04:59:03 PM »
     Damn, we could have had a classic final between Général de Gaulle & PMF.

     Keep Pierre Mendès France
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« Reply #598 on: December 25, 2009, 12:05:43 PM »
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« Reply #599 on: December 25, 2009, 02:04:57 PM »
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