French 20th Century Survivor: ROUND SIXTY-FOUR

[Хahar 🤔]

Doumergue

[big bad fab]

Pierre Pflimlin

[Associate Justice PiT]

     Pfimlin

[Hash]

Pfimlin is out.

ROUND 24 is open, vote away.

Gaston Doumergue

[Хahar 🤔]

Doumergue

[Edu]

Doumergue

[Antonio the Sixth]

What did he did so wrong ?

I prefer to vote for Chirac. Sure, he did also good things, but most of them during the 21th Century : he was twice a fail Prime Minister, then a joke president during the 1995-1997 period, and a do-nothing during the Cohabitation. He was also a corrupt, to be fair.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

What did he did so wrong ?

I prefer to vote for Chirac. Sure, he did also good things, but most of them during the 21th Century : he was twice a fail Prime Minister, then a joke president during the 1995-1997 period, and a do-nothing during the Cohabitation. He was also a corrupt, to be fair.

I like him, but mostly because of his opposition to Iraq War. Poland should join then reasonable nations of Germany and France

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

Alain Poher

Just because he was interim short-termer

[MaxQue]

Doumergue, then

[Хahar 🤔]

What did he did so wrong ?

I prefer to vote for Chirac. Sure, he did also good things, but most of them during the 21th Century : he was twice a fail Prime Minister, then a joke president during the 1995-1997 period, and a do-nothing during the Cohabitation. He was also a corrupt, to be fair.

I like him, but mostly because of his opposition to Iraq War. Poland should join then reasonable nations of Germany and France

"You forgot Poland."

[big bad fab]

Jacques Chirac

Yep... he has surrendered his ideas and powers so many times...
The only political thing he has been able to do (with Giscard's help, to be fair) is breaking the right.
And for the country, well, apart from implementing strict rules on roads (and sparing many thousands lives each year), nothing...

I wanted to begin the FifthRepublic presidents with Giscard, but Chirac is fine also

[Associate Justice PiT]

     Gaston Doumergue

[Hash]

Doumergue is out rather easily.

ROUND 25 is open, vote away.

Jacques Chirac

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

Maurice Couve de Murville

[big bad fab]

Jacques Chirac

[MaxQue]

Jacques Chirac

[Associate Justice PiT]

     Murville

[big bad fab]

     Murville

In French, when we cut Couve de Murville's name, we say "Couve", not "Murville".
When you write "Murville", it makes me think about a bad word in French for drunk, "murgé"....
Thanks for this lil LOL, PiT

[Antonio the Sixth]

Chirac.

What did he did so wrong ?

I prefer to vote for Chirac. Sure, he did also good things, but most of them during the 21th Century : he was twice a fail Prime Minister, then a joke president during the 1995-1997 period, and a do-nothing during the Cohabitation. He was also a corrupt, to be fair.

I like him, but mostly because of his opposition to Iraq War. Poland should join then reasonable nations of Germany and France

Yes, but that was in 2003, 21th Century. We have to judge him only for what he did before 01/01/2001 at 0:00.

[Associate Justice PiT]

     Murville

In French, when we cut Couve de Murville's name, we say "Couve", not "Murville".
When you write "Murville", it makes me think about a bad word in French for drunk, "murgé"....
Thanks for this lil LOL, PiT

     Ah. Is that a sort of self-censoring, like Vladimir Poutine?

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

Chirac.

What did he did so wrong ?

I prefer to vote for Chirac. Sure, he did also good things, but most of them during the 21th Century : he was twice a fail Prime Minister, then a joke president during the 1995-1997 period, and a do-nothing during the Cohabitation. He was also a corrupt, to be fair.

I like him, but mostly because of his opposition to Iraq War. Poland should join then reasonable nations of Germany and France

Yes, but that was in 2003, 21th Century. We have to judge him only for what he did before 01/01/2001 at 0:00.

Forgot about that. I can vote in next round, of course if he survive this

[Hash]

Chirac is out.

ROUND 26 is open.

Mitterrand

[Antonio the Sixth]

Oh... Also I launched the offensive against Fifth Republic presidents...
Well, Tonton doesn't deserve to go so soon in my opinion.

Alain Poher.

[big bad fab]

Emile Combes

I know Antonio won't be OK with this.
But I think I've proved not to be a partisan hack in this survivor: I was the first to follow you on Chirac.
And I'm ready to oust Giscard and Messmer (e.g.) as soon as possible.

Why Combes ?
Don't trust English Wikipedia: it's silly, Combes seems to be the only pure politician, whereas other Radicals and Socialists of the time were cowards...
No, he was first a divisive man.
He didn't want splitting State and Church, he first wanted to split Church...(I've seen many documents and archives where we can see he tried to trick and use some priests against others... not really a "laïc" (secular) behavior !).
He wanted in fact to keep the Concordate, but in order to spoil and mess within the Church and achieve a personal revenge (younger, he studied to be come a priest).

That's only thanks to Briand's own parliamentarian skills and to Rouvier government's moderateness that the "séparation de l'Eglise et de l'Etat" was reached, AFTER Combes' government.

Combes was too ideological and even Socialists let him drop, especially after the "index cards scandal" (index cards on which political and religious beliefs of officers were written).
Indeed, he was also very "French" in the sense that he liked this behind-the-scene "political" police (that is still alive nowadays with the formerly known "Renseignements Généraux").

So, I think even secular forumers can follow me in eliminating him, as only Briand, Rouvier, Ribot, Blum, Viviani were the realistic and more successful "secularists" or "laïcs", not the so-called "petit père Combes".

Sorry, Hash, Mitterrand is a very good idea: a corrupt and hypocritical guy (and I hate him for his policy in Yugoslavai in 1989-1993), but, at least, he was successful towards the European integration: with Kohl, he did something good.