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« on: July 09, 2009, 10:57:40 PM »

http://telegraphjournal.canadaeast.com/front/article/722036

Never thought I'd defend Harper, but they guy didn't do anything wrong and everyone should shut up.
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« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2009, 11:26:30 PM »

Well, that thing is way exagerated.

The problem is more than he was not aware and than nobody around him said him than he should not do that.

That is clear than he should have asked if he had a problem to understand the process.
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« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2009, 12:41:17 AM »

One would think Harper would know more about the largest religion in Canada.  He should have politely sat there while those who choose to receive received. 
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« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2009, 12:54:30 AM »

This happened to me once and I didn't know what the hell to do either. I don't blame the guy.
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« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2009, 01:00:27 AM »

This happened to me once and I didn't know what the hell to do either. I don't blame the guy.

Curious, Why did you go up in the first place? Many people do not receive.
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« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2009, 01:10:53 AM »

This happened to me once and I didn't know what the hell to do either. I don't blame the guy.

Curious, Why did you go up in the first place? Many people do not receive.

I was about nine and had no idea what was going on.
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« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2009, 07:05:42 AM »

rofl. What a fat farmer this guy is.
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« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2009, 01:20:31 PM »

I wouldn't bash Harper myself.  Communion during a funeral likely surprised him.
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« Reply #8 on: July 10, 2009, 01:28:16 PM »

He should have refused, that's what I would've done.
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« Reply #9 on: July 10, 2009, 01:54:41 PM »

Lol. Hilarious.
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« Reply #10 on: July 10, 2009, 02:08:28 PM »

Amazing. Now I'm finally able to say to people, "this is my prime minister" as I show them this article.
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« Reply #11 on: July 10, 2009, 02:41:16 PM »

He should have refused, that's what I would've done.

As would've I, but regardless. He still didn't offend me one iota.
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« Reply #12 on: July 10, 2009, 02:54:11 PM »

If this was the only bad thing this idiot had done, then he'd be up there for best Prime Minister. But this is a minor amusing incident in an ocean of awful and incompetent governance.
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« Reply #13 on: July 10, 2009, 08:30:34 PM »

This only proves that:

1. He is ignorant of practice of the largest religion in Canada.  It is daft to put a consecrated host in your pocket.
2.  He is a typically politician who  wanted to fit in.
3.  He was clearly not paying attention at the service.


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« Reply #14 on: July 10, 2009, 09:07:12 PM »

Even your average Joe visiting a Catholic church would have asked questions (anxiously) as to what the proper protocol was.  For a Prime Minister to not do that indicates that he's not very bright.
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« Reply #15 on: July 10, 2009, 11:56:16 PM »

one cannot simply pocket the body of christ
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« Reply #16 on: July 11, 2009, 12:25:11 AM »

The way some Catholics view the Eucharist I'd argue is outright idolatry.
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« Reply #17 on: July 11, 2009, 12:54:28 AM »

The way some Catholics view the Eucharist I'd argue is outright idolatry.

I wonder if you know how absolutely stupid your sound most of the time.

Yes, believing the Eucharist to be the Body of Christ is idolatry. What a jackass.
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« Reply #18 on: July 11, 2009, 01:31:29 AM »

The Catholic Church basically says:

-The Eucharist somehow becomes the actual Body and Blood of Christ.
-They can't explain how, you're just supposed to accept it as some fantastic mystery.
-That's why their church is so awesome, no other church has that.

Really the logic is circular, they basically say you should be Catholic because of something that makes no sense unless you accept Catholic authority to begin with. I consider the whole thing nonsense, so of course I view it as idolatry.

This would be like me saying that my apartment is the best apartment in the world because it's  magical apartment though I can't explain how. But because it is so magical my apartment rules and is superior to every other apartment in the world and if you dispute that, you are committing a grave sin by doubting the amazingness of my apartment.
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« Reply #19 on: July 11, 2009, 02:00:43 AM »

The Catholic Church basically says:

-The Eucharist somehow becomes the actual Body and Blood of Christ.
-They can't explain how, you're just supposed to accept it as some fantastic mystery.
-That's why their church is so awesome, no other church has that.

Certifiable Joke/Dope Poster - Disingenuous mixed with a heavy dose of outright ignorance with a dash of obnoxious arrogance.

The best part is that your third "point" has nothing to do with the subject. It's just an ad hominem attack on the Church.
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« Reply #20 on: July 11, 2009, 02:30:01 AM »

This thread simply proves that Harper is an idiot.
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« Reply #21 on: July 11, 2009, 02:40:01 AM »

The Catholic Church basically says:

-The Eucharist somehow becomes the actual Body and Blood of Christ.
-They can't explain how, you're just supposed to accept it as some fantastic mystery.
-That's why their church is so awesome, no other church has that.

Really the logic is circular, they basically say you should be Catholic because of something that makes no sense unless you accept Catholic authority to begin with. I consider the whole thing nonsense, so of course I view it as idolatry.

This would be like me saying that my apartment is the best apartment in the world because it's  magical apartment though I can't explain how. But because it is so magical my apartment rules and is superior to every other apartment in the world and if you dispute that, you are committing a grave sin by doubting the amazingness of my apartment.

Oh, I pity your heresy.   To never know the fullness of Christ Jesus as the church fathers and companions of the lord did. To be bereft of a legitimate church and be led by 16th century invention.  Our church and the eastern churches have a strong foundation that is not based on a kings balls or protecting princely title.

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« Reply #22 on: July 11, 2009, 03:11:40 AM »

I'm not familiar with Catholic funerals.  Are all attendees expected to partake in communion, Catholic or otherwise?  I know that under normal circumstances it's to be Catholic-only (like pretty much all denominations), but is leeway generally given for events such as this?

Either way, if Harper didn't know what to do, he shouldn't have taken the wafer.
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« Reply #23 on: July 11, 2009, 04:06:36 AM »

I'm not familiar with Catholic funerals.  Are all attendees expected to partake in communion, Catholic or otherwise?  I know that under normal circumstances it's to be Catholic-only (like pretty much all denominations), but is leeway generally given for events such as this?

Either way, if Harper didn't know what to do, he shouldn't have taken the wafer.
A funeral mass is the same as a regular mass.  No one is "expected" to receive communion-catholic or otherwise.   Before you receive you should be in a holy state.  You should contemplate our lords sacrifice and saving power. No one is checking ID's. You are receiving the lord. 
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« Reply #24 on: July 11, 2009, 04:22:14 AM »

The way some Catholics view the Eucharist I'd argue is outright idolatry.
All (dogmatic) Catholics. Blasphemy as well as idolatry.

But honestly, all Christian churches look incredibly - hilariously, almost - blasphemous from a pure monotheist pov. For what it's worth.
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